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Old 11-17-2015 | 07:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Zone 5
305's will support a 540 but you are at the edge of where you want to be. If you have the money, the 315cnc's are going to be a much better choice. Assuming of course that you have the airflow from the carb or efi and the cam to take advantage of the heads. AFR can do some additions to the 305's to make them a bit better than the basic ones, again depending on the dollars you have to spend. You can call AFR and ask them for specifics. I'd tell you who else to call, but then some people on this thread will get into name calling which won't help you.
Please explain how the 315's are going to be a better choice, even if the (intake) and cam can feed them? Also wondering what "additions" AFR can do to the 305's to make them a bit better?
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Old 11-17-2015 | 07:18 AM
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Again

Thanks Horsepower1 for posting useful information to help others out.
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Old 11-17-2015 | 07:20 AM
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Well it looks that I misspoke, so with that said- my memory served me wrong and I am sorry. Either way- the only used parts that went into my engines were the cams I purchased from you. I bought just about everything I saw back then if it was a good deal. Whether I was going to use it or not. So it's a little difficult to remember what I paid for every part.

As I'm sure you also know- those emails are from 2012, and right at the very beginning of me planning on what I was going to do with my engines at that time. In the end- using old parts didn't set well with me and I sold off just about every part I bought. So just for the record here is what went into my "junk" engines

Crain Gold Rockers
Morel Lifters
Trend push rods
RPM intakes to later be replaced with Darts
Crane 741 cams
HP 500 Carbs
Holley Fuel Pumps
Isky SP-8005 Springs
Isky Retainers and Locks
Arp rocker studs
ARP head bolts, intake bolts, ect.
Cometic gaskets
Wilson Carb Spacers


Other than the carbs, and the intakes, every thing was new. So there you have it, so now maybe you can stop thinking that the parts I bought from you in 2012, were ever installed in my engines. Again- outside of the cams- nothing ever went in my engines. Also- those cams never made more than 380 hp, They were sad and weak, they worked for the time being, but certainly never produced the 467 hp you thought they would. Over the 330's that were in my boat originally, I gained 3 mph with the same props.

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Old 11-17-2015 | 07:45 AM
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Lets see Tim you have over 7000 posts and 6999 of them are about YOUR 2 boats that have so many failures by your own hands over the past 5 or so years I can't even keep track of them. Now that you have got 1 of them to run for 10 hours you are all about giving advise................BRAVO YOUR THE BEST.............I will PM you later about a new build we are working on so you can teach me the right way.
Well first of all that's not true many of my posts are many different things... And yes I break stuff, I boat every weekend and run it hard you never even boat to break anything the one time I see you and you are in some else's boat... Don't pm me I do t care what you have to say, you are the worst example of what a preofessiinal is.... And I would love to see you approach me with a bat and see what happens to your old azz...
Go part out that 30,000.00 empty Baja hill you could not sell, I told you that last winter you hated me for pointing out it will not sell and that's what started your hate towards me... Funny my dumb azz was right... As you are now gonna scrap it!!! Hahahahahahahahaha
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Old 11-17-2015 | 07:50 AM
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Originally Posted by MILD THUNDER
Yea, did you know the scorpions are better than the crane rockers ? Hmm

Wow- so now you are going through all of your old e-mails. You must have a lot of time on your hands. I've used both Crane Golds and Scorpion Endurance rockers. Of the two I prefer the Scorpions. So I really don't know what you are attempting to prove with the last e-mail, but using my opinion and not Bobs, I think the scorpion is a better product. Use what you want, I could careless. Again- what is the point of that post? Also why did you not post your reply? Is it because you said you bought some used rockers to put in your high dollar engines but really wanted to use scorpions. If you forgot, which happens, let me refresh your memory.




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I ended up buying two sets of crane golds off a buddy. They were low hour ones, he purchased them new in 05, and only like 100 hours on them. Mine, could have very well been from the 80's, as I believe my engines started life as 400HP mercs.

Scorpions endurance were my #1 choice. But since this build has gone way over the initial budget, tryin to save some money here or there!

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Old 11-17-2015 | 08:14 AM
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Originally Posted by endeavour32
Wow- so now you are going through all of your old e-mails. You must have a lot of time on your hands. I've used both Crane Golds and Scorpion Endurance rockers. Of the two I prefer the Scorpions. So I really don't know what you are attempting to prove with the last e-mail, but using my opinion and not Bobs, I think the scorpion is a better product. Use what you want, I could careless. Again- what is the point of that post?
Id love to hear what you like better about the scorpion rockers over the cranes ?? Is the the geometry with aftermarket taller intake valves ?

Never made more than 387hp ? You dynoed them? As stated. Those cams were in 509s, that made over 500hp NA , and 700hp with 250 blowers. I gave you the specs, you decided to purchase. Please stop insinuating i specd out some junk for your engines. You consulted with bob on them, and he advised going with 1.8 rockers with them. Do not blame me for your lack of engine knowledge, tuning knowledge, or how to set up a boat.

And those lifters you bought from mike tkach, were indeed morel lifters, the street version, which both him and i told you prior to purchase.
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Old 11-17-2015 | 08:37 AM
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endevour32 same ol same ol , nothing but lies.
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Old 11-17-2015 | 08:38 AM
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Originally Posted by horsepower1


I don't care what heads, intake or cam you try to use...you simply can not force more air/fuel into the engine than it's going to take on it's own
The key to this is how you get the air fuel in. The reason that in 2 identical engines, one with 088 heads and one with afr's are going to make different hp. Naturally with the other correct parts.
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Old 11-17-2015 | 08:45 AM
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Originally Posted by MILD THUNDER
Id love to hear what you like better about the scorpion rockers over the cranes ?? Is the the geometry with aftermarket taller intake valves ?

Never made more than 387hp ? You dynoed them? As stated. Those cams were in 509s, that made over 500hp NA , and 700hp with 250 blowers. I gave you the specs, you decided to purchase. Please stop insinuating i specd out some junk for your engines. You consulted with bob on them, and he advised going with 1.8 rockers with them. Do not blame me for your lack of engine knowledge, tuning knowledge, or how to set up a boat.

And those lifters you bought from mike tkach, were indeed morel lifters, the street version, which both him and i told you prior to purchase.
joe,you have proved with you,r text messages that mike tennant is a liar.after that i don,t think many oso members care what he has to say.i practically gave him a set of take out morell lifters and he claims they were cranes.i find it funny the way he comes here and attempts to discredit the used parts he choose to buy.
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Old 11-17-2015 | 08:46 AM
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Originally Posted by horsepower1
Please explain how the 315's are going to be a better choice, even if the (intake) and cam can feed them? Also wondering what "additions" AFR can do to the 305's to make them a bit better?
gee I don't know. Why would you do port work on 305's to make them flow more air? As far as extras, if you hadn't pissed AFR off by calling their heads junk maybe they should tell you. Or maybe you could just read their website.
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