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MILD THUNDER 12-04-2015 08:17 AM


Originally Posted by horsepower1 (Post 4382128)
The K1's and Molnars do have narrower beams but the webbing is thicker. I'm pretty sure Tom Molnar owns K1.

Either owns it , or started K1, or something like that.

Off topic a bit, but just wanted to say thanks for participating on the forum here. I know you took a bunch of criticism and what not, but didnt lose your cool and kept it technical based on the other threads. Also, thanks for proving your not just here to sell parts or push anything, per your convo with my buddy who contacted you about some parts he wanted prices on.

Was hoping to make it to PRI this year and swing past the booth, but my work schedule isnt going to cooperate.

mike tkach 12-04-2015 09:32 AM

correct me if i am wrong but i always thought the rod angel plays a part in the dwell time at tdc&bdc.

Black Baja 12-04-2015 09:35 AM


Originally Posted by MILD THUNDER (Post 4382145)
Either owns it , or started K1, or something like that.

Off topic a bit, but just wanted to say thanks for participating on the forum here. I know you took a bunch of criticism and what not, but didnt lose your cool and kept it technical based on the other threads. Also, thanks for proving your not just here to sell parts or push anything, per your convo with my buddy who contacted you about some parts he wanted prices on.

Was hoping to make it to PRI this year and swing past the booth, but my work schedule isnt going to cooperate.

He started K1 and left after 5 years. K1 rods are not the same quality as they once were. Big business got ahold of the company that's why he left...

MILD THUNDER 12-04-2015 09:38 AM


Originally Posted by Black Baja (Post 4382172)
He started K1 and left after 5 years. K1 rods are not the same quality as they once were. Big business got ahold of the company that's why he left...

Standard!

You ever use the molnar rods ?

Black Baja 12-04-2015 09:43 AM


Originally Posted by MILD THUNDER (Post 4382173)
Standard!

You ever use the molnar rods ?

Nope. Think I may order a set of 7.100's before the day is over. If Dan is on the fence with his Rod selection he really should call Tom. I think it might finalize his decision.

mike tkach 12-04-2015 09:59 AM

all though i have never used a k1 or the molnar rod i have installed a lot of eagle rods with arp2000 bolts,and some with 8740 bolts on lower power standard stroke stuff.imo if dan chooses to go with rods in that price range the eagle with arp2000 is as good of a choice as any.i check the big end of every rod that i am going to install for size&roundness and the eagle,s have always checked out good.

SB 12-04-2015 10:10 AM

I have a schitload of connecting rod ads on OSO now. I guess the search engines and ad tracking devices are pretty freakin strong on this site.

horsepower1 12-04-2015 10:51 AM


Originally Posted by mike tkach (Post 4382169)
correct me if i am wrong but i always thought the rod angel plays a part in the dwell time at tdc&bdc.

Absolutely. The shorter the rod for a given stroke, the more rod angle. Short rod angles can accelerate the piston quickly which will put more demand on the induction and give a little better "quick" cylinder filling, but at the cost of higher side loading of the piston and more friction in the cylinder. Good for drag racing and short acceleration distances. Not so good for endurance or long, higher rpm runs.

horsepower1 12-04-2015 10:54 AM


Originally Posted by MILD THUNDER (Post 4382145)
Either owns it , or started K1, or something like that.

Off topic a bit, but just wanted to say thanks for participating on the forum here. I know you took a bunch of criticism and what not, but didnt lose your cool and kept it technical based on the other threads. Also, thanks for proving your not just here to sell parts or push anything, per your convo with my buddy who contacted you about some parts he wanted prices on.

Was hoping to make it to PRI this year and swing past the booth, but my work schedule isnt going to cooperate.

Thanks Thunder...I appreciate the kind words very much.

MILD THUNDER 12-04-2015 11:14 AM


Originally Posted by horsepower1 (Post 4382191)
Absolutely. The shorter the rod for a given stroke, the more rod angle. Short rod angles can accelerate the piston quickly which will put more demand on the induction and give a little better "quick" cylinder filling, but at the cost of higher side loading of the piston and more friction in the cylinder. Good for drag racing and short acceleration distances. Not so good for endurance or long, higher rpm runs.

I wonder if that had any influence on the old 427T tall deck truck engines design concept. Using a short stroke , long rod combination. I know they had the 4 piston ring deal, but wonder if they knew those engines were going to need to last in heavy duty commercial trucks, with short gears, and not wear things out


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