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Keith Atlanta 01-19-2016 09:13 AM

Was he OK with the whole thing? How did you get him to change his mind?

LOL - Exactly who I would want installing a cam in my engine. A disgruntled engine builder with 11 pages of angry posters on OSO.

F-2 Speedy 01-19-2016 09:21 AM

Hopefully the builder has a dyno so you can see a proven good running engine before you leave with it.

blue thunder 01-19-2016 09:38 AM

That is good to hear 79F. Hopefully he actually changes it haha...

mike tkach 01-19-2016 09:46 AM


Originally Posted by Keith Atlanta (Post 4395103)
Was he OK with the whole thing? How did you get him to change his mind?

LOL - Exactly who I would want installing a cam in my engine. A disgruntled engine builder with 11 pages of angry posters on OSO.

i was thinking the same thing,i would bet it gets put in without degree checking!the builder clearly should have never installed the wrong cam to begin with so if he is a reasonable person he will do the right thing and correct his mistake,and move on.jmo.i will also add,the op never said anything that was not true and did not get carried away with chit talking the builder but rather he just came seeking opinions.at the end of the day he got the builder to agree to correct the mistake and that is really what this thread was about.

mike tkach 01-19-2016 09:55 AM


Originally Posted by 33outlawsst (Post 4395106)
Hopefully the builder has a dyno so you can see a proven good running engine before you leave with it.

my guess is the op would be charged for a dyno session,the builder won,t do it for free.

F-2 Speedy 01-19-2016 10:30 AM

That's because you're one of the good guys ^^^^^ Mike

mike tkach 01-19-2016 10:55 AM


Originally Posted by 33outlawsst (Post 4395123)
That's because you're one of the good guys ^^^^^ Mike

thanks for the kind words.

79formula 01-19-2016 11:23 AM

I hope he does it right. I was planning on double checking it with a degree wheel when I get it back.

Baja Rooster 01-19-2016 12:37 PM

Dyno time would be money well spent.

79formula 01-19-2016 12:47 PM


Originally Posted by mike tkach (Post 4395113)
i was thinking the same thing,i would bet it gets put in without degree checking!the builder clearly should have never installed the wrong cam to begin with so if he is a reasonable person he will do the right thing and correct his mistake,and move on.jmo.i will also add,the op never said anything that was not true and did not get carried away with chit talking the builder but rather he just came seeking opinions.at the end of the day he got the builder to agree to correct the mistake and that is really what this thread was about.

I really did not want to slander the builder. I started this thread just to see if I could actually run the cam he installed. After multiple "NO" answers with both Comp Cams and Eddie Marine also saying no. I had to ask him to swap it.

As far as the extras go, I still feel the price was fair for what I got. I have heard what other people pay for motors and mine was not that bad.

For $3200 I got the following:

Machine work on the block- Align hone mains, bore/hone with torque plate, cam bearings/soft plugs, decked.
Machine work on rods- resized big ends with new ARP bolts.
Machine work on crank- crankshaft ground
Rotating assembly balanced
forged 2399 pistons
cam
cam bearings
main bearings
rings
rear main seal
timing cover gasket
oil pan gasket
timing set with torrington bearing
timing cover
balancer and bolt
timing cover bolts
oil pan studs
oil pump stud
timing tab
cam button
lifters
I supplied the new oil pump.

Costs are the shortblock at 3200, the heads running me $1496, the blower was $1676, and $500 in gaskets, oil system stuff. I have a total of $6872 in my motor. I also sold off my old intake for $600 and old pistons for $200. Leaving a $6072 net cost.

The only thing I would have tried to have done different is heads. At $1496 to get and go through a set of iron heads, I should have just got AFRs. However I am out of money for this seasons boat upgrades.


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