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phughes69 01-19-2016 12:55 PM

just a thought knowing this is a blower motor but do you know what he set the ring gap at?

79formula 01-19-2016 01:04 PM

I don't know offhand. The motor was never going to be anything but a blower motor so I would like to think he set up the bottom for it.

Originally Posted by phughes69 (Post 4395171)
just a thought knowing this is a blower motor but do you know what he set the ring gap at?


phughes69 01-19-2016 01:29 PM

I just question it because the little blowers create a lot of heat and if he forgot that you were adding a blower to it and he obviously did not know what cam should be in a blower engine, I wonder if he set the ring gap up for a supercharged application. I hate to rain on your parade but better safe than sorry. The guy may have a bunch of marine motors in his shop but are they HP motors of stock replacement motors for cruisers.

79formula 01-19-2016 02:31 PM


Originally Posted by phughes69 (Post 4395182)
I just question it because the little blowers create a lot of heat and if he forgot that you were adding a blower to it and he obviously did not know what cam should be in a blower engine, I wonder if he set the ring gap up for a supercharged application. I hate to rain on your parade but better safe than sorry. The guy may have a bunch of marine motors in his shop but are they HP motors of stock replacement motors for cruisers.

My 575-600hp motor was the lowest hp motor in there.

stimleck 01-19-2016 04:56 PM


Originally Posted by 79formula (Post 4395168)
I really did not want to slander the builder. I started this thread just to see if I could actually run the cam he installed. After multiple "NO" answers with both Comp Cams and Eddie Marine also saying no. I had to ask him to swap it.

As far as the extras go, I still feel the price was fair for what I got. I have heard what other people pay for motors and mine was not that bad.

For $3200 I got the following:

Machine work on the block- Align hone mains, bore/hone with torque plate, cam bearings/soft plugs, decked.
Machine work on rods- resized big ends with new ARP bolts.
Machine work on crank- crankshaft ground
Rotating assembly balanced
forged 2399 pistons
cam
cam bearings
main bearings
rings
rear main seal
timing cover gasket
oil pan gasket
timing set with torrington bearing
timing cover
balancer and bolt
timing cover bolts
oil pan studs
oil pump stud
timing tab
cam button
lifters
I supplied the new oil pump.

Costs are the shortblock at 3200, the heads running me $1496, the blower was $1676, and $500 in gaskets, oil system stuff. I have a total of $6872 in my motor. I also sold off my old intake for $600 and old pistons for $200. Leaving a $6072 net cost.

The only thing I would have tried to have done different is heads. At $1496 to get and go through a set of iron heads, I should have just got AFRs. However I am out of money for this seasons boat upgrades.


The only thing I would have tried to have done different is heads. At $1496 to get and go through a set of iron heads, I should have just got AFRs. However I am out of money for this seasons boat upgrades.

lol i get to post the same thing twice in one week
"never heard that before" lmao

79formula 01-19-2016 05:07 PM


Originally Posted by stimleck (Post 4395255)
The only thing I would have tried to have done different is heads. At $1496 to get and go through a set of iron heads, I should have just got AFRs. However I am out of money for this seasons boat upgrades.

lol i get to post the same thing twice in one week
"never heard that before" lmao

It sucks. I could have went Aftermarket for about $2500. But that would be another thousand ......AGAIN. lol

Craney 01-19-2016 05:16 PM

You said you supplied the oil pump, just double check with the builder that the pickup tube is welded on.

79formula 01-19-2016 06:48 PM


Originally Posted by Craney (Post 4395261)
You said you supplied the oil pump, just double check with the builder that the pickup tube is welded on.

I peeked inside. Its welded!

MILD THUNDER 01-19-2016 06:54 PM


Originally Posted by 79formula (Post 4395259)
It sucks. I could have went Aftermarket for about $2500. But that would be another thousand ......AGAIN. lol


Originally Posted by 79formula (Post 4395168)

The only thing I would have tried to have done different is heads. At $1496 to get and go through a set of iron heads, I should have just got AFRs. However I am out of money for this seasons boat upgrades.

You could have got into a set of Dart Iron Eagle 308's, or Brodix complete with inconel valves, for around 2300 bucks.

79formula 01-19-2016 06:59 PM


Originally Posted by MILD THUNDER (Post 4395295)
You could have got into a set of Dart Iron Eagle 308's, or Brodix complete with inconel valves, for around 2300 bucks.

Yup. But again thats $800 more than fixing stock junk. $800 more than I have. For sure more bang for the buck though.


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