Hey, they did put solid roller springs on his hydraulic roller heads. Who knows, maybe its a bullet cam, or a nunzi cam from a pontiac motor.

Wow that's sad. We run more lift & more rpm and cams don't look like that...

I never said that. What I was implying was if you pay $500 for a cam it shouldn't be on a 5150 core

Pontiac lifter valley is different

I think it`s a Marine Kinetics metal Dildo for Tim to sit and spin on.
Too soon?



Can we send someone over to check on Tim???
I`m getting worried

He's trying to figure out what he's going to tell his wife why he needs more money for the boat... It's a touchy subject. I know

I'd go, but I don't want to be the first over. I'm afraid he's gonna punch the first guy he sees.

I don`t blame you one bit.. ^^

He might but it likely won't hurt.

Are you saying this is not mine? Wow

I never said that Tim. I don't understand why you guys think I have some kind of agenda here. What I meant was it looks like a cheap cam. Core wise. Nothing more nothing less.

Prob be a good idea to take a close look at the lifters Tim.

I just got her new furniture so she's like oh well just fix it, just sucks I would like to spend money in some other places one winter lol luckily she's a good wife that way... She don't really care as long as I don't ignore the things she wants

[heading to bills Ina. Few to take heads apart and measure things...

QUOTE=vintage chromoly;4486742]I'd go, but I don't want to be the first over. I'm afraid he's gonna punch the first guy he sees.[/QUOTE]

Given our past I wasn't sure... All good

You know what I want for x mas?! Bob madara... In my living room... With a big happy red bow on his head!! So I can tell him what a no good, dirty, lying, cheating POS he is!!! "Where's the alcohol!!"

That cam should be a little more orange in the middle, Clark?

are these new blocks?

Not sure... Hmm

Yes what's that got to do with anything ?

Well,, who new that page #77 would get the most interesting out of this thread. Doh !

I wonder if a call to Cam Motion 1stand then send good pics would be wise 1st. Obviously I know who else you are going to call, but that maybe better last..after all your ducks are put in a row.



A different cam guy has charged $700 on some cams done on a Sadi core.Believe it.

I will be sending Bob emails I'm not doing anything over the phone with that crook

You thinking the lifters are not sitting on the lobes flat or turning sideways a little ?

Yeh, where new Dart blocks and the beginning of Tim's mess was the lifters sticking in the bores....which a lot know is common with those Blocks and Morel lifters. I believe we did not hear if the lifter bores where indexed when they where honed afterwards.

yes,,lifters(not all) are not square to the cam.

answer above.

Lol you guys can say what you like, there's been many other and even posting pics of same exact results, I know it's all my fault again... Whatever...

You guys literally make me sick trying to prove that it's all my fault, I was informed long ago what I would find in that exact thing has happened but it's my fault that literally blows my mind the facts have been posted time and time again I'm not going round and round anymore about the stuff fact is those cams are destroying my engines you can keep using Bob but I certainly won't be

hey,I have no love for Bob,but thats my deal.
what I see is a block that needs some work.

Yes I'm sure the other 30 camshaft that look just like mine needed the same thing the block was taken care of long ago I hashed all that out before

Definitely tough emotions to deal with....for anyone.

I'm sorry, but that's funny. Something I would say to anyone I know in person. LOL.

No doubt.

The point of totally starting over was to avoid this, I was told to ask bob some info, he talked me out of advice from local guys, and even Oso members, I thought I was getting a quality product, I did make some mistakes and learning curve and in the end the "building process" is just fine, the parts... The part are the issue here.. From the solid springs, to the marine "customs made for
Him" cylinders heads, to the lack of power, and now the premature wear on my cams and heads TBT still.. I will have that info shortly, spent 35,000.00 to worry nonstop, have you guys tell me I messed it up, and say " just fix it" yea it happens I get it, but it really sucks to see this after just wanting to go put the boat way running for once, good thing I smoked that Trans or I would have had bigger issues.

So you guys can blame me and my building all you want, but bob sold me on his talk... And big words that made me not listen to people I should have...

Wanna bet?

I did not say it was your fault.... I said you are doing it now instead of over the summer and that you got in a summer of boating. When they didnt make the power in the boat, when they didnt make the power on the dyno, we all knew they werent going to cut it, we just didnt know how bad they were. you squeezed out a season that you probably would have lost most of if you had to get and setup new cams and valve trains at the beginning of the season. You now have 7 months or so to do it. You gambled on it holding together over the season and it did, pretty much only chewing up the stuff you were going to replace anyways... I'd say you won that bet.

Pretty much guaranteed but I'm not here for that. Here learning some cam info and set up stuff.

I have to say this sucks balls for you , I dont think anyone is pointing fingers at you at all. Was all this manufacturered on a monday or Friday, lol. After covering my ass, I'd be taking a drive a returning through the windows.
On a less dark note, you should see some gains at last, although you're pocket will be lightened... again.

Ok first of all, to say it won't hurt is stupid when you have zero clue about me or what I'm capable of, this thread isn't about that move on..

I'm defensive, upset, bummed, and just sick of this whole mess... Just done. And very tempted to drive to Rochester.....