Go Back  Offshoreonly.com > Technical > General Q & A
Ethanol Free Gas - any cons? >

Ethanol Free Gas - any cons?

Notices

Ethanol Free Gas - any cons?

Old 08-07-2021, 03:33 PM
  #21  
Registered
 
Join Date: Mar 2020
Posts: 333
Received 170 Likes on 105 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Tractionless
How about if your fuel system components were designed prior to ethanol being added to fuel? That's my reason for non-ethanol.
Ethanol has been used in gasoline since the late 20's. Albeit not by all manufacturers. The govt mandated it in 2007. But there have been "up to 10% ethanol stickers on pumps since sometime in the 80's where I was from and probably all major metropolitan areas. Being you've got a '96, I would expect it to be compatible with gasoline containing ethanol. Or if nothing else the components that would be effected have been, or are due to be, replaced over the years.
Smitty275 is offline  
Old 08-07-2021, 03:38 PM
  #22  
Registered
 
Join Date: Mar 2020
Posts: 333
Received 170 Likes on 105 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Tractionless
How about if your fuel system components were designed prior to ethanol being added to fuel? That's my reason for non-ethanol.
Ethanol has been used in gasoline since the late 20's. Albeit not by all manufacturers. The govt mandated it in 2007. But there have been "up to 10% ethanol stickers on pumps since sometime in the 80's where I was from and probably all major metropolitan areas. Being you've got a '96, I would expect it to be compatible with gasoline containing ethanol. Or if nothing else the components that would be effected have been, or are due to be, replaced over the years.
Smitty275 is offline  
The following users liked this post:
Wildman_grafix (08-12-2021)
Old 08-08-2021, 05:52 PM
  #23  
Registered
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Guelph, Ontario, Canada
Posts: 136
Received 5 Likes on 4 Posts
Default From the 525 manual


greg800le is offline  
The following 2 users liked this post by greg800le:
Griff (08-08-2021), imartin (08-09-2021)
Old 08-08-2021, 10:48 PM
  #24  
Registered
iTrader: (1)
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Chicago
Posts: 8,718
Received 4,260 Likes on 1,227 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by underpsi68
Like stated, the downside is more costly.

I'll go out on a limb here and say I only used ethanol fuel in my boat for the 9 years I owned it. I put marine stabil in every gallon I put in. I also stored the boat for the winter with a full tank with twice the marine stabil (long term-says lasts up to 2 years). When the spring came I just turned the key and went boating. Changed fuel filter once a year and always cut the old one open to inspect. Never any dirt or water. Always just good fuel.

I never had a fuel problem. Maybe I was one of the lucky ones.
You were lucky .




ICDEDPPL is offline  
The following users liked this post:
underpsi68 (08-09-2021)
Old 08-09-2021, 07:03 AM
  #25  
Registered
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Cheboygan, MI
Posts: 1,621
Received 398 Likes on 229 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by ICDEDPPL
You were lucky .



That looks like a mechanical failure not detonation. I've seen a lot of pistons like that in snowmobiles after the crank pin needle bearing failed.
ThisIsLivin is offline  
Old 08-09-2021, 07:11 AM
  #26  
Registered
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Cheboygan, MI
Posts: 1,621
Received 398 Likes on 229 Posts
Default

I have always used a Tier 1 gas in the boat, more by chance than choice. Now that I know the difference, that's what I try to run in my cars and trucks too. I used to empty my tank at the end of the season and put it in my SUV. It always came out clean and clear, but I use Amsoil stabilizer and I have a really good water separator. My water separator has a drain valve that I check and I have never had any water in my fuel in 12 years.
ThisIsLivin is offline  
Old 08-09-2021, 01:33 PM
  #27  
Registered
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Posts: 2,055
Received 415 Likes on 244 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by ICDEDPPL
You were lucky .



IMO your situation is not a fair comparison. It appears you got stale gas. Who knows how old it actually was??
underpsi68 is offline  
Old 08-09-2021, 03:16 PM
  #28  
Registered
iTrader: (1)
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Chicago
Posts: 8,718
Received 4,260 Likes on 1,227 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by ThisIsLivin
That looks like a mechanical failure not detonation. I've seen a lot of pistons like that in snowmobiles after the crank pin needle bearing failed.
Preignition. The fuel I got was maybe like 60 octane junk or it was laquer, either way not a part failure
ICDEDPPL is offline  
Old 08-09-2021, 05:41 PM
  #29  
Registered
 
Join Date: Mar 2020
Posts: 333
Received 170 Likes on 105 Posts
Default

If you had preignition there'd be a hole in the middle or at least chunks missing around the top down to the ring land or severely rounded off. If it was detonation you'd see pecker marks in the carbon on top of the piston along with possible "sandpapering" of the piston top. That piston had something something solid bouncing around in there. Way too many different kinds of impacts. None of which are detonation or preignition related.
Smitty275 is offline  
Old 08-09-2021, 07:52 PM
  #30  
SB
Registered
iTrader: (1)
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: On A Dirt Floor
Posts: 13,538
Received 3,106 Likes on 1,400 Posts
Default

You don’t think det or pre-ign could cause the valve head to over heat ?
SB is offline  

Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service

Copyright © 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.