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ICDEDPPL 11-23-2021 05:03 PM

Tunell raaammm!!!!
 
Or Tunellcram as David Fryburger coined it.
Gotta decide on a powdercoat color .
Red might be too much , white, but thats going to be hard on my OCD
https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...c6fd7791aa.jpg
https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...14a4b62945.jpg
https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...bdbe60cde1.jpg
https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...65cd2901df.jpg
https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...69e7db08fa.jpg
https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...3b64a1ed94.jpg





SB 11-23-2021 05:07 PM

Blow it , then ram it. Lol.

Sydwayz 11-23-2021 05:11 PM

Too hard to get to keep pretty if it was white, go with the red. Belt dust is going to gather in there, especially with the condensation which may happen at times. Paint the throttle bodies white to offset the balance a bit.

Diamond Dave 11-23-2021 05:24 PM

Ok where did you get the belt with the logo?!

ICDEDPPL 11-23-2021 05:45 PM


Originally Posted by Sydwayz (Post 4813180)
Paint the throttle bodies white to offset the balance a bit.

If I find some I will paint them! :D

https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...426f79a556.jpg
Diamond Dave , stencil and vinyl paint

30ftpanther 11-23-2021 06:06 PM

What is the projected hp gain with the intake??

outonsafari 11-23-2021 06:35 PM

https://www.duplicolor.com/product/m...omotive-paint/

black smoke anodized metalcast, temp to 500 gas & oil resistent.
It's a little transparent, so any scratches prior to paint will show but the product is excellent

https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...646a23962b.jpg
https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...8a57a1dca9.jpg
https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...c141f90fa9.jpg

abones 11-23-2021 06:41 PM

Very Nice Dan! :cool: I have a similar set up with about 1/2 the Height on the runners. I might suggest to watch the fuel distribution closely, as there may be a tendency for a few cylinders to run on the lean side! AND be careful of some Fuel Injection gurus advise as this set up is out of most wheelhouse. Just my opinion.

ICDEDPPL 11-23-2021 07:23 PM


Originally Posted by 30ftpanther (Post 4813190)
What is the projected hp gain with the intake??

I`m hoping for better fuel distribution, future ready port or meth injection, plus room to be able to mount my coils finally.

Tunell rams always wins on Engine masters.




https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...74c5817f20.jpg

ICDEDPPL 11-23-2021 07:25 PM


Originally Posted by abones (Post 4813202)
Very Nice Dan! :cool: I have a similar set up with about 1/2 the Height on the runners. I might suggest to watch the fuel distribution closely, as there may be a tendency for a few cylinders to run on the lean side! AND be careful of some Fuel Injection gurus advise as this set up is out of most wheelhouse. Just my opinion.

My plan is to dyno with 10 02`s to see what that fuel distribution is. You are correct , not a standard set up lol . Took me a while to pull the trigger , I thought it looked funny but i`m getting used to it .

zfrilly 11-23-2021 08:53 PM

10 02's !!! Thats gonna be fun to monitor! I'm sure its data logged too, but trying to watch 10 AFR gauges just seems like a fun challenge. Looks amazing! I say white and OCD sucks.

SB 11-23-2021 09:10 PM


Originally Posted by zfrilly (Post 4813217)
10 02's !!! Thats gonna be fun to monitor! I'm sure its data logged too, but trying to watch 10 AFR gauges just seems like a fun challenge. Looks amazing! I say white and OCD sucks.

Arcticfriends dyno is set up that way.

Mbam 11-23-2021 09:22 PM

I like it

abones 11-23-2021 09:41 PM


Originally Posted by ICDEDPPL (Post 4813207)
I`m hoping for better fuel distribution, future ready port or meth injection, plus room to be able to mount my coils finally.

Tunell rams always wins on Engine masters.




https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...74c5817f20.jpg

+1 on the port injection! Depends on how much reliable HP you want to make, there is a tipping point where port injection is a must have to be safe in an endurance (boat) engine. I think you will be very happy with the end results. and it looks so bad ass!
Black Power coat would look stealthy as heck!

Craney 11-23-2021 09:46 PM

Paint them black.

xlint89 11-23-2021 10:02 PM

:Score-101010:

Are those going to fit under the lid still?

ICDEDPPL 11-23-2021 11:07 PM


Originally Posted by xlint89 (Post 4813225)
:Score-101010:

Are those going to fit under the lid still?

Still 2" shorter than the roots with all that stuff on top.
At least I hope I measured right ! lol



https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...9ef1eec29b.jpg

getrdunn 11-24-2021 07:10 AM

This is gonna be a great one to follow and learn from. Very cool!!! I like it big time!!!

Rookie 11-24-2021 08:07 AM


Originally Posted by ICDEDPPL (Post 4813209)
My plan is to dyno with 10 02`s to see what that fuel distribution is. You are correct , not a standard set up lol . Took me a while to pull the trigger , I thought it looked funny but i`m getting used to it .

What about welding bungs in each port. Injectors in all cylinders and then 4 injectors batched behind the throttle body. That's what I'm thinking of doing. Thoughts???
On my mustang 5.0, I think I'm going to run 4 injectors behind the throttle body and 4 injectors in the blower intake. 1 in each quadrant.

I will be dynoing at Smitty's with 10 O2's again.


Originally Posted by SB (Post 4813218)
Arcticfriends dyno is set up that way.


Keith Atlanta 11-24-2021 08:21 AM


Originally Posted by ICDEDPPL (Post 4813207)
I`m hoping for better fuel distribution, future ready port or meth injection, plus room to be able to mount my coils finally.

Tunell rams always wins on Engine masters.




https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...74c5817f20.jpg


Are the results similar when its forced induction?

ICDEDPPL 11-24-2021 08:29 AM


Originally Posted by Keith Atlanta (Post 4813252)
Are the results similar when its forced induction?

lol 1155hp N/A ? that be some great engines!

Right column is boost .

resurrected 11-24-2021 08:54 AM

Functional and dead sexy! Win win!

87MirageIntruder 11-24-2021 09:10 AM

I'd go black. Won't show all the dirt etc that collects in there. Match your intercoolers.

getrdunn 11-24-2021 10:46 AM

I think red on the TR’s. They wouldn’t stand out as much and would look like a nice extension of your engines. Also what are you thinking for duration on cams? And what peak rpm. Fk I just messaged Valako regarding changing over to NA TR’s. If I can gain over 50hp at or near 6,300 I’d go for it as he’s messing around right now with my Brodix and another profiler sniper to see what works best. So possible a set of new intakes and 1150 carbs be in the swap soon. Tks a lot for starting this thread. 😂

Rookie 11-24-2021 10:54 AM


Originally Posted by ICDEDPPL (Post 4813174)
Or Tunellcram as David Fryburger coined it.
Gotta decide on a powdercoat color .
Red might be too much , white, but thats going to be hard on my OCD

Hand polished aluminum. :)

Actually I am liking the black look. (kinda murdered out look till you see the white business end on top)

Unlimited jd 11-24-2021 11:15 AM


Originally Posted by Rookie (Post 4813248)
What about welding bungs in each port. Injectors in all cylinders and then 4 injectors batched behind the throttle body. That's what I'm thinking of doing. Thoughts???
On my mustang 5.0, I think I'm going to run 4 injectors behind the throttle body and 4 injectors in the blower intake. 1 in each quadrant.

I will be dynoing at Smitty's with 10 O2's again.

on our sheet metal tunnel ram with 8.3’s we have injectors in the runners and another set right behind the throttle body.

ICDEDPPL 11-24-2021 04:00 PM

I think black too would look best .:drink:

Per mike Jones:

If you decided to go mechanical roller, we could reliably add some lift, and still be easy on the valvetrain
Cam# BBC, HR76410-78410B-114

252/262 @.050"

.410"/.410" Lobe Lift
.681"/.676" lift
114 LSA

There ya go TRs for everyone!! I LIKE SPENDING YOUR MONEY !





Originally Posted by getrdunn (Post 4813275)
I think red on the TR’s. They wouldn’t stand out as much and would look like a nice extension of your engines. Also what are you thinking for duration on cams? And what peak rpm. Fk I just messaged Valako regarding changing over to NA TR’s. If I can gain over 50hp at or near 6,300 I’d go for it as he’s messing around right now with my Brodix and another profiler sniper to see what works best. So possible a set of new intakes and 1150 carbs be in the swap soon. Tks a lot for starting this thread. 😂


ICDEDPPL 11-24-2021 04:06 PM


Originally Posted by Rookie (Post 4813248)
What about welding bungs in each port. Injectors in all cylinders and then 4 injectors batched behind the throttle body. That's what I'm thinking of doing. Thoughts???
On my mustang 5.0, I think I'm going to run 4 injectors behind the throttle body and 4 injectors in the blower intake. 1 in each quadrant.

I will be dynoing at Smitty's with 10 O2's again.

This is a good plan, you can really dial in the fuel.
Id have to look into how to fire all these injectors on my HP set up
Wish i could dyno at Smittys titties but I have too much power for his dyno .
Precision is supposed to have 10 02`s but a friend of mine had some issues there with the owner .. what`s the word on those guys?

Rookie 11-24-2021 04:14 PM

Do you have a Terminator X or HP? I know you can do it with the HP, but you might have to buy a stand alone injector driver for the Terminator X.

Rookie 11-24-2021 04:15 PM


Originally Posted by ICDEDPPL (Post 4813304)
There ya go TRs for everyone!! I LIKE SPENDING YOUR MONEY !

I believe I owe you for spending my money in my EFI build. :)

https://www.holley.com/products/fuel.../parts/554-143
.

ICDEDPPL 11-24-2021 10:23 PM


Originally Posted by Rookie (Post 4813307)
I believe I owe you for spending my money in my EFI build. :)

https://www.holley.com/products/fuel.../parts/554-143
.

I have the HP:
  • Eight sequentially driven 8:2 peak and hold injector drivers, capable of driving up to 16 low or high impedance injectors as a standard feature. Multiple staged injector strategies

Damn you !! :D

offshorexcursion 11-25-2021 08:08 AM

Badass I love this type of setup! First time I saw one years ago I was blown away thinking Duh that makes perfect sense why don't more people do that lol! Excited for you man!

Ben at Precision Power Offshore/Chief Engines is one of the most honest guys in the industry. He's just a good person. They also have one of the Best dyno rooms in the state. He's well versed on many different EFI systems. I know a lot of people who are happy customers. We just finished running both our engines there and couldn't ask for a better experience. He doesn't just do a quick sweep he actually runs the engine like it's in the boat. I think you will be happy and enjoy working with them!

getrdunn 11-25-2021 10:40 AM

Those longer runners should make a bunch of torque. Dan where did you purchase the profilers if you don’t mind me asking. I attempted to get a couple of darts yesterday but couldn’t get any kind of a guarantee on delivery date. Meaning like feb-march sometime. Kinda like a yes no maybe kind of deal.

ICDEDPPL 11-25-2021 11:04 AM

GET her done, https://www.alkydigger.net/proddetai...PRO216-Blower9

Had em in a week...nice folks to deal with. Even gave me a 5% discount for getting 2

Edit: I just found a pic of a black on that link.

I like it !

https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...3b5c4582a0.jpg

Rookie 11-25-2021 11:13 AM

I was looking to adapt this for my Mustang and Whipple but it definitely won't fit under the hood. And they don't make them for big blocks that I know of for my boat.

https://www.holley.com/products/engi...arts/300-274BK

getrdunn 11-25-2021 12:34 PM

[QUOTE=ICDEDPPL;4813361]GET her done, https://www.alkydigger.net/proddetai...PRO216-Blower9

Had em in a week...nice folks to deal with. Even gave me a 5% discount for getting 2

Edit: I just found a pic of a black on that link.

I like it !

QUOTE]


Oh it’s gonna happen tonight - no doubt 😂.
On another note how’d you decide between the dart and profiler or even the 7085 eddy. I’ve read up on the 3 years ago when I was in this predicament and seemed up in the air. Seems like the darts need a lot of work or more than others but makes sense I guess to tailor to one’s specific build. One thing I do know for sure is they look fken cool and I’ve always wanted a TR build but always talked myself out of it $$$. I suppose in my case a single dom on top would be like putting perfume on a pig so dual carbs it is. Gonna stay old school until I convince myself to get with the times.

I looked up site early during a search however wanted to confirm they had in stock or a direct ship before paying and finding out later back order. I’ll give them a call tomorrow. Tks

Wonder how true it is longer runners work better NA and a little shorter runners like 5” work better with forced air. I have no direct experience with and just going by a few articles I read.

hogie roll 11-25-2021 01:11 PM


Originally Posted by ICDEDPPL (Post 4813304)
I think black too would look best .:drink:

Per mike Jones:

If you decided to go mechanical roller, we could reliably add some lift, and still be easy on the valvetrain
Cam# BBC, HR76410-78410B-114

252/262 @.050"

.410"/.410" Lobe Lift
.681"/.676" lift
114 LSA

There ya go TRs for everyone!! I LIKE SPENDING YOUR MONEY !

If it were me I’d dial the lift back to 0.600 and crank up the boost. You’ve got a 1400hp blower. 0.700 in an endurance application feels like a science experiment to me. Mother Merc only ran up to 0.632.
How many hours are you hoping to get?

getrdunn 11-25-2021 01:21 PM


Originally Posted by hogie roll (Post 4813370)
If it were me I’d dial the lift back to 0.600 and crank up the boost. You’ve got a 1400hp blower. 0.700 in an endurance application feels like a science experiment to me. Mother Merc only ran up to 0.632.
How many hours are you hoping to get?

When mike spec’d mine I asked the very same question more than once given the fact it was marine app and he was adamant about 200-250 hours. Of course I’ll be checking probably every 50-75. With his current set up I’d think maximizing head flow would be extremely beneficial in combination with the TR’s. JMO

255/259-724/724 net 704.
2 Roller
Shipping
BBC/Cst, R76424-77424-114 B.C. 1.090", RR 1.7 (55/59)

ICDEDPPL 11-25-2021 02:57 PM

I`m currently running a .680 lift cam hydraulic. .700 on a solid is not an issue.
My head flow is much better at higher lift.
More boost less lift would be more cylinder pressure and more detonation issues. I like the cam specs.

Gether done, do the other brands offer a top plate for a xx-71 blower bolt pattern?
I might have gotten the last 2 , call em and see availability

getrdunn 11-26-2021 06:55 AM

Calling as soon as they open this morning. Hey maybe I can get a BLACK Friday discount. Lol…. I can make the top plates if need be. It would be way to simple if they were all the same but not sure on that. I’ll be stoked if the have the t-rams.


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