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Old 07-07-2004 | 11:18 AM
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The gen 5 uses a different rear main seal. I'm not an expert but I think the oil pan surface on the rear main is different too. The gen 5 uses a one piece oil pan gasket. If you use a gen 5 oil pan, you have to use a gen 5 timing cover. The mismatch could cause the kind of oil leaks you're talking about. Where are the engine experts around here? We need your input.
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Old 07-07-2004 | 11:24 AM
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Party is correct, the Gen IV is different then the Gen V and VI which are both the same seal shape front and back. It is common to cheat and drill and tap the Gen VI and use the Gen 5 cover and use the old style timing chains. If a gen 4 cover has been use, it will leak.

Also talked to the boss about max oil pressure. He said you should run no more then 75PSI hot in a wet sump application on a marine engine.

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Old 07-07-2004 | 11:25 AM
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Crazyhorse called and said theres only one timing cover for a big block and I checked summits website and they only list one.it is a gen 5 and has a gen 5 pan with a one piece gasket....
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Old 07-07-2004 | 11:30 AM
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Damn, I thought I had a brainstorm.
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Old 07-07-2004 | 11:32 AM
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you guys are the best! these are all things I need to think about!
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Old 07-07-2004 | 11:35 AM
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Gen 4 covers are different from Gen 5's. They are both stamped steel, but the bottom seal area is a different radius.

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Old 07-07-2004 | 11:40 AM
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Flatlander uses three different part #'s so now I'm really confused...Chris If I had the wrong one wouldnt it have leaked during cam break in.....????wouldnt I have had to modify it to fit?
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Old 07-07-2004 | 11:54 AM
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Flatlander uses three different part #'s so now I'm really confused...Chris If I had the wrong one wouldn't it have leaked during cam break in.....????wouldn't I have had to modify it to fit?

It would have leaked only if you tipped the engine forward, because the oil level is below the pan seal and front seal, but I bet its the accessories hole in front of the fuel pump cavity.
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Old 07-07-2004 | 12:07 PM
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aero it doesn't have a fuel pump cavity its a gen 5 fuel pump is on the seawater pump..... I hope your right!
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Old 07-07-2004 | 12:08 PM
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I've been watching this thread and feel aero-offshore may be onto something. Out on the water the oil can slosh to the front of the pan and past the front seal if you're running the wrong cover. It's been a while, but isn't there a small gap between the bottom of the timing chain and the very forward part of the oil pan? If I'm right, oil could slosh forward through this area. Just trying to help.--Lou
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