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Old 01-29-2005, 07:26 AM
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Grind a point on a bolt. Tack weld the point of the bolt to the broken fastener. Turn left.
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Old 01-29-2005, 07:58 AM
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Soak in PB Blast for a day or so. I havent tried the wax thing either, hmmm. Im sure Ill get a chance.
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Old 01-29-2005, 08:00 AM
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Originally Posted by ratman
snap on tools makes the best extractor set you get 5 sizes in the set. there are 5 drill bits, 5 fluted studs, that you drive into the hole you drilled. then slide a hollow nut over the stud the flutes bite into the inside of the bolt and the nut catches hold of the flutes to back the broken bolt out. the great thing is that the stud isn't too hard ( most easy outs break off in the hole because they are too hard). the snap on stuff will give a bit so you can feel whats going on, with out fear of breaking the stud off inside the broken bolt. been there with easy outs. ever try to drill out a broken easy out forget it...

Ratman is right on the money, it's the E1020 from Snap On (they are actually made by Rigid)
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If you are going to set it up in a milling machine, just drill it to the tap drill size. Then just pull the last bit of the screw out of the thread. That is the best and safest way. Just be sure to center it good. Even better than drilling would be to use a small end mill and plunge cut it. If you need the screws to be removable in the future, install a heli-coil insert now.
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Old 01-29-2005, 09:36 AM
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By the time you drive around and buy the tool you need to extract the bolt you could have just dropped it off at a good automotive machine shop and had them remove it. The removal job won't cost much more than the tool. They're probably going to charge you more to remove the broken-off EZ-out anyway. Been there.
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Old 01-29-2005, 09:48 AM
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Yep Ed's right.
Since you already have a mill to use, set it up in the mill vise good and square (so the hole is vertical in both planes).

Then take an endmill and mill the broken end off flat (not so much flush with the part, but not a jagged bent end - cut if it off flat). Then take a center drill and spot the center of the screw right in the center. Drill with a smallish drill bit thru the screw (you can feel it break out of the screw). Then use an endmill to plunge thru it - this will make a perfectly straight hole, whereas your earlier drilled hole will wander off center, but the endmill will open the hole up straight. Use an endmill the first size smaller than the tapdriill size. After the endmill, follow it with a tapdrill. The drill will stay centered because it will be following the perfectly straight endmill hole. You're finished. Now all you got to do is take some pliers and pull the "spring" out of the hole. The "spring" will be the threads only and you can uncoild them right out.
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Old 01-29-2005, 09:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Chris Sunkin
By the time you drive around and buy the tool you need to extract the bolt you could have just dropped it off at a good automotive machine shop and had them remove it. The removal job won't cost much more than the tool. They're probably going to charge you more to remove the broken-off EZ-out anyway. Been there.
now theres some good advice



welp , just like i said in the beginning. these damm things never work. followed instructions to a t. got justtttt about done with the drilling part and snap , the drill point broke off

so i went to plan b. ill just add another hole to the clip and it should be fine.
thanks for all the suggestions guys!!
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Old 01-30-2005, 02:56 PM
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You could take it to a shop that has a edm. that will get it out .but$$
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Old 01-30-2005, 05:09 PM
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I'd have charged you $25 to get it out in a mill (actually OSO discount is $15).
With a broke off drill tip, you'll break the ears off a $25 carbide endmill when the tip is cut free from the screw material and starts bouncing around in the bottom of the threaded hole. And you'll chip the next endmill trying to get it out, too.

So it goes to EDM.
$60.
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Old 01-30-2005, 05:16 PM
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in my post above i drilled n tapped a second hole next to the one with the broke bolt but the info you guys are posting will be helpfull in the future.

thanks again guys!
 


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