Don't worry I know the best tech guys in the business just saying.......THERE WILL BE NO FAVORTISM, PERIOD......

you can not race canopy boats and non canopy boats in the same class.... IMO

Didn't I just say that I was pretty specific if enough canopied staggered boats came out we would discuss a class for them but right now it's open cockpit single and open cockpit side by side configurations

Most circle tracks only tech top three with fourth place on standby . Simple cyl PSI test after setting baseline for class tells enough ( I know cam lift / overlap ect will alter results , ) Tech guys usually ask for random part inspections ( may require top 3 pull intakes , or pull a valve cover to check lift ) Anyone illegal would have to go through tech at next race before being allowed to race . If your kicking everyones a$$ because your illegal , you'll get caught , if your just awesome , people will still hate you .

We need to remember why we were all drawn to Factory racing.
1) A class that we all felt equal on power.
2) Tec, Tec, Tec, that we all knew was the best at that time. NO EXCEPTIONS !!!!!!!!!
3) Unbelievable reliable power and drive life
4) Great value for guy's that stretched there budget to race.
5) Money was spent on set up only not dyno time.
6 We were all equal no matter how much money you had.
7) The best team of the day won
8) Manufactures got behind there product to show case it.
9) Money paid to teams at the race
10) Meeting life long friends with the same passions

This is what drew me to factory racing then and will draw a new generation in the future. The economy has finally taken a turn and in a couple years new money will be available IMO. The time is right for a new start IMO

Negative

Randy is exactly right and what a class it was.......so with a little cooperation, a little compromise, and a little unity.....maybe, just maybe we can have some fun and try to get this sport back on track.....Jesus you guy's got me sounding like f'ING politician.....

Empty your PM box bro

Crew for CJ Jones Crate Sportsman. Go when I'm not racing our own stuff.

So apparently we're stuck again because this thread is dead and I have received no texts or emails......so tell me if I'm wasting my time here I have better things to do BUT if you truly want to race please raise your hand because there's A LOT MORE to build this going on behind the scene's......just saying!!!!

As far as our position, we currently race class 6 with OPA. I would have to see a lot more detail regarding specifications, rules, enforcement, organization, schedule, prize money etc...before I would even consider a switch in class as we have a considerable investment in our current set up. Unfortunately, someone has to put in all the legwork as far as putting the deal together, before anyone is going to commit. Everyone is going to say it is a great idea, but that doesn't mean they are going to compete.

And I'm not willing to put all the legwork in, go find money to first pay you, hire tech people enforce rules, hurt feelings, listen to why somebody can't win because they're not willing to set-up there boat, and so forth for a few boats I need a little more commitment than that......if I had a dollar for every time I was told that we'll race and they didn't I would be on an island being pampered in every way and not spending my time trying to revive a sport I just happen to love......So we have to come to some type of compromise!!!!

BTW just to make my position clear nobody is saying you have to race my class I'm just looking for people who WILL. As I've stated it's somewhat of a Catch 22 I need a count before I can offer anything to you and you need an offer before I can get a count.....

I hear you. I wasn't trying to be difficult, but as you said, saying you will race and actually doing it is a big difference. I for one would like to see the class revived, whether we are involved, or not. Getting the commitment from people is the tough part...

With commitments comes $$$$$ that's all I can tip my hand to at this point like I said it's a bit of a Catch 22 but I'm sure we can find common ground...

It sounds like you're trying to start a new org. You would most likely need to come up with a whole lot more info to get racer commitment. Will it be a profit or not for profit? Have you sealed down some gravesite with some sort of pending commitment. Starting a business like this will take a whole lot of legwork on your part and you need to be willing to put in the legwork before anyone budges. Your efforts could probably be used better by joining forces with an org that already has everything in place and head up the classes you plan to introduce. If you have a handle on racesites they could be added to a current org and maybe have a 15 race season. I personally don't see that having a new org will benefit you or the racers.

You state that you'll have the best tech. SBI, OPA, OSS and OPGP claimed or claim to have tech and all the racers still have complaints regarding tech. I think if you have figured out a failsafe way of teching you should join forces. Prove it at the existing sites and the racers will follow you. I could build a new F1 open factory boat in a month. I can't commit though because I have no idea,what I'd be committing to. Join forces! Strength in numbers.

You're always going to have complaints regarding tech, rules, water conditions, what color the sky is, and why didn't we get any lollipops when we registered. Come on gentlemen I'm not going to start a new org. I'm not retarded just stupid, HOWEVER I'm trying to revive some spec class racing.

We know the problem with that......how about you guys join forces then I'll come fair enough it's the same thing your asking me to do just a 180......let me know how you make out with that...

And you're right I know some of the best tech guys in the business

Again anyone wants to call me I'm always around......6093175466

Who do you want for a tech committee?

Its dead on this forum because very, very few people want to post anything on hear in fear of the back lash of a few people. My guess is people are just watching that are interested and not willing to post or make commitments on this forum. God forbid you made a commitment on hear and you couldn't make a race. Someone would say I did my research and I know for a FACT you said bla, bla, bla. You are in a pickle and you have my commitment that I am interested in supporting a spec class with my Kryptonite.

My man Mad Dog he ain't scared!!!!!

Not many of the old F1 Activators looks like race boats today. I would love to build A new 27 Activator with the old F1 spec. A HP500 motor is A easy find.

Really
 

WHY ..........they didn't want legal boats then why now lol

http://www.offshoreonly.com/forums/o...-vee-lite.html

This is why the SVL guys are really not on these threads much. They're busy doing this

When will the schedule be out?

I think it's funny that Sean mentions $10,000 and Randy slaps on his knee pads

Let me tell you something pal Randy and I are friends first and foremost.........so the knee pads comment was very rude and uncalled for.......are you willing to build a boat??? If not shut your mouth if you are call me but keyboard commando is like telephone badass......FULL OF BULL****

Our DCB was originally built for f-1 but never made it out before class died...also have a y2k in the shop that was raced in f1 a time or 2....if that 10g's is real, I'm sure we'd run one of them with ya...

Call me

FWIW on my end I would like to see this come back the F1 and F2 race boats. Maybe have a tune up run this year central located and see who would pay to come watch it and hang in the pits. Just throwing it out as an outsider here who use to go to at least a couple events per year / every year back in the day. That was some great racing back then with those classes. Heck use tape a lot from Speedvision when I could not go in person. Just saying

wouldn't it be easier to put a gps in all boats and regulate the speed. have multiple speed classes and if you break out, your done. it would keep things a little more at bay imo. you could still have your set of rules ie. 510 cu. in etc. i would love to race but it would have to be on an even playing field

the G2X RacePak(which Sean specified in his proposed rules) is a GPS, it monitors the RPMs, calculates your prop slip, hell it even tells you the G-Forces... It is easier to run a gps and regulate the speed as those classes already exist... The current speeds for Computer racing are 60, 70, 75, 85, 95, 105, 115(7) in OPA and 80 & 95 in SBI.. If the motors are built to the specs that Sean provided and there is proper Tech, then it is as close to even playing field as you can come and the winner is based off driver, throttleman talent and not how much you can pull back the throttles and stay under the speed

Count me in. I'd come up with an F-1 boat to run with you Sean. I race with Gordo for a couple season in the Active Thunder. Might know where a certain F-1 Pantera is sitting.

I backed away from racing back in 2005. Got tired of the GPS racing. Back to the basics of fastest boat and crew within the rules is real racing. I like SVL but alittle to rich for my blood. This would be a great way to get my step daughter into offshore racing.

Sean I know a few of the old tech/referee's would be willing to help out up my way.

Call me

I tried last night. Your voice mail is full.....

I'll PM you my number....

All interested parties shoot me your email addresses so I can send out the proposals upon completion thank you!!!!

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