Roll call factory class boats
 

I'm looking for a boat count of all Factory Class Race Boats both 1& 2 with spec engines 500HP, 500EFI, or 525EFI not bumped, blown, massaged, rubbed, hexed, voodoo'd, or any other term you may come up with to increase horsepower.....I know there's a bunch of them sitting in moth balls collecting dust that could be raced again.....DON'T BE SHY RAISE YOUR HANDS!!!!!!

Ok I will bite. F1-29 still a spec boat. What are you thinking

Randy, clear your pm box. Better yet call me when you have a chance 954 709 4440

If your looking for seals, Randy used to get them at Kurts Marine in NJ. Don't know where he gets them now.

F2-36 Apache is in nh at a body shop, f2-3? 30' sutphen is at my shop getting all new exhaust, tsunami sutphen is in plympton mass.

I'm thinking some old factory racing

Unlimited give me a call 6093175466

I know you were not around yet but back at the beginning of Factory racing you were aloud to have a authorized shop rebuild your motor and they were authorized to reseal your Merc carbed 500 motor. You were aloud to clean the heads and punch it out 30 over. People were taking brand new motors and having to have this work done to them if they wanted to max out the legal power of the motor. In the end some shops were reading the rules different LOL than others and making more power. Not much but more which means a lot in spec style racing. APBA realized that this was NOT going to work !!!!!!! Every motor shop wanted to build the best motor and get more work. One supplier and one rebuilder was the only answer to the problem and YES it worked. Fast forward 15 years and all you new bucks are going backwards and slamming the people that have been there. Mark you have a handful of races under your belt and believe every word you hear as fact. There are always 2 sides to every story. Lets get back to Seans post please.

The important part of you post is "have a authorized shop rebuild your motor". You would show up with a complete motor and have them seal it (during the OSS days). You cheated then you can't be trusted now. You come up with complete crap to twist a story. 8 years and I'm still a new buck. Your a dick.

LOL you have such bad info. Where do you get this from LOL. The last time I was at that shop was 1999 LOL. 16 yeas ago when it was legal to have an outside vender seal your motor. Am I missing something or are you trying find dirt that does not exist? 8 years and what 8 races? Are we counting years washing Peters Boats? I bet your just mad that you sucked in a old boat and then thought it was the boat so you bought a new state of the art boat and still cant win a race. Go buy Doc's old boat maybe that will help LOL 8 years of wasted time and no respect. Talk about a dick you win.

Randy. Once a cheater always a cheater. I don't care what a cheater like you has to say about me. It's got to suck knowing most people think you are a piece of $hit after all the years you have tried to drive this sport down for you own gain.

Randy go easy on the "old boat" cracks.... its at least from this century, whats yours again? Also remember till this year with the only competition being a brand new team in a new to them boat is the first time you've won anything since what 2002? It took Smitty getting in your boat and you sitting at home to bring your boat to the front....How did you do in LOTO this year? Ok continue your scwabble.....

Concerning the topic of the thread, Sean's onto something... and here is history I am pretty sure randy and I will agree on this one statement, "Factory racing was where it was at late 90's thru 2003" well until Mercury came in, discontinued a motor and forced a new one down our throats, hmmm seems history is repeating itself now, just a different class....

Great idea Sean, I like the foundation you presented... Guys with the Factory boats, this is the real deal.. just think Randy remember our bet in 2002? You won it fair and square and I showed up in Nawlins with 2 cases of Coors Light as restitution.... Now heres a shot for you to race the fastest F1 in history and see if your 82.99 mph(with a 525) Krypto can hang with the 87.58 mph(with a 500) fountain

I have kept in the shadows for quite some time. And I know this really isnt my fight.... But seriously...what the hell is your problem? Earlier this year you were ready to jump in a class 7 boat with Randy and now your publicly bashing him with no facts to back up your allegations. I have known Randy for over 15 years and consider him a good friend. I can tell you he has done more to promote this sport more than you could ever possibly imagine. I dont know where you are getting your info from. He is not a cheater and does not have a box of seals in his motor home. If you have facts to back up your allegations, lets hear them. Other wise show up and race and put your money where your mouth is. Your not makin any friends by bashing Randy.

First of all the class 7 thing was a joke.
Second don't care about making friends here.

Thanks for asking Bruce.

Also he got his seals from Kurts not his Motorhome.

So No.. you have no proof that Randy is a cheater. Thats what I thought.

I'm waiting until our trial to disclose our evidence (aka proof).

It's a shame that every thread that has to do with racing, regardless of the original topic, turns into a Randy roast. I'd like to start a thread about SVL owners agreeing on an engine package so we can race together. Who's in?

I was just informed we have to disclose our information prior to trial. I guess first deposition.
Sorry for the misinformation Bruce.

phew ok now that we made it through that lol here is a list of former factory boats that are currently or just recently raced off the top of my head

F2 Open
Simmon Marine - Phantom
Velocity Racing - Velocity
R & S Offshore - Formula
Black Pearl - Fountain (was canopy, now open)

F2 Canopy
Wazzup - Fountain
Strictly Business - Fountain
Miss PTM - Fountain
The Developer - Fountain

F1
TnT Racing - Fountain
Typhoon - Kryptonite
Cisco - Superboat
Saris - Kryptonite
Knot Guilty - Warlock
Crazy Chicken - Extreme
Dicksbigger Motorsports - Formula
Two Cruel - Phantom
Christie's Photographies - Wellcraft Scarab
Fast Forward - Corsa ( I might be wrong on this one, I think its Miklos former F1)

Stinson I'll give you a ring at lunchtime

Your more than welcome to start a thread anytime you want. Bluntly, being that I have raced on both sides of the track and have been around both organizations SVL class directly for the past 3 years, I really dont see any chance of a single motor agreement happening. SBI currently has 3 motor options, yes it is a phase out situation, but SBI has proper tech in order to stay on top of it. While OPA has awesome tech for the bracket classes which is what they claim to be in a "grass roots" organization, they do not have the proper tech for the spec classes they offer at this time. It takes money and the OPA SVL class has not stepped up to volunteer an entry fee or anything to defuse the extra expense of hiring a qualified inspector that can focus on the task at hand without having the additional distractions of preparing boats to compete. This is the only fear I have for this new class Sean is proposing, is the lack of proper tech once he chooses a motor package he wants to offer. That being said, Smitty has told me that he(OPA) has the proper tech tools to verify engine specs, but with the current 2014 OPA rule book states that it is an easily accessible "sealed" class so there would be no reason to break out the personnel or tech tools, right? You are dealing with 20th century technology and 21st century technology and i am sure each one of us in the class will do everything in our power to protect the value of our investments.

Chris, the racers(including myself) are the demise and downfall of our sport, I hope I am wrong, but as I said, you are more than capable of starting a new thread, but in knowing the players in the class, we as a group will never get on the same page. As you see, randy has his flock that come to his rescue everytime he steps in poop, people that claim they are long term friends but I am sure glad that long term friend of his despises me after what I have heard him directly say about Randy, dang, I might not have many friends, but the ones I do would never back stab me like that. Chris, it is what it is, and while I have the same desires of you for 1 motor, it just wont happen. Not being negative, just trying to live in reality and history in our sport always seems to repeat itself, its a shame we cant learn from it. How ironic it is to be in a thread about bringing back Factory racing, which Mercury destroyed and here we are again in the same situation....

Theres my take, go ahead start a new thread. Lets try and give back Sean his thread and maybe he can come up with something productive that can benefit our sport

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bout Randy, dang, I might not have many friends, but the ones I do would never back stab me like that.

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Our 25' Active Thunder we raced in 1998-1999 as "Active Thunder Racing F-136 " with US Offshore is a now pleasure boat. We ran into the current owner by pure chance at the OPA race in Atlantic City.

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As you see, randy has his flock that come to his rescue everytime he steps in poop, people that claim they are long term friends but I am sure glad that long term friend of his despises me after what I have heard him directly say about Randy, dang, I might not have many friends, but the ones I do would never back stab me like that.

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I sure hope you have facts to back up that statement. dont post untruths. You may regret it someday.

The reason you dont have many friends is because you come off as a condescending a$$hole. You seem to think you are above most and pretend you are smarter than everyone by writing offshore novels on here.
When it comes to backstabbing... I seem to recall you screwing me in 2003 / 2004. remember? Some friend you must be. Should I go into detail ..

Im done....Feel free to call me any time...908 413 5470 I'll be more than happy to hash it out with you.

I have the F1-15 RACE BOAT AND SCARABS F2 -80 RACE BOAT. FOR YOU GUYS LIVING IN THE PAST ( STOP )LOOKING BACK OR YOULL NEVER WIN A RACE. ITS 2015 ITS THE ONLY YEAR THAT MATTERS NOW THE REST IS HISTORY LETS WORK TO BETTER THE SPORT FOR 2016 ,2017,20...............

..I post facts that are documented as I am trying to benefit the sport.... Please tell me you see hope in 1 motor actually being agreed upon especially with the obvious facts I presented in that "offshore novel"? It was good speaking with you and while we wont ever be friends, hopefully the resolution is agreeing to disagree and at least co-existing. Like I said on the phone, I never screwed you, hope to talk again soon and we can cover that more in detail

I am me, I am no better than anyone no worse than anyone, just me... Most racers want to live under the delusion that everything is perfect, yet they complain and ***** and moan behind the backs so to speak, but dont do anything to make it better. While my posts might come across as being negative, in some ways yes, our sport is not perfect and I might state a problem, but will be in front of the line trying to reach a solution with a positive outcome. I guess you and everyone missed the post a few weeks back of me once again reaching out to Randy to call me in order to maybe have an intelligent conversation in order to maybe come up with something agreeable to make our class better, but I have yet to receive any call or message in any shape or form.. Offshore is what it is

Jesus Christ and you wonder why racing is phucked up......Randy is correct in the original days of Factory class racing there were authorized sealing center Dick Simon Marine being one of them which is where I worked then we ran 2 F2 boats out of there 1 38 Formula and 1 38 Cigarette before I entered the Cig into competition our Formula was 2nd fastest behind Treadwell's first 38 my first race was Benicia, California and I had the fastest boat in the Fleet EVERYBODY had there money out to tech my boat until I spun out funny thing is my boat was torn apart after that and it was 100% legal BUT I WAS A CHEATER......let's get back on track gentlemen.....Randy is a stand up guy always has been always will be I've been in the boat with him and he knows how to race PERIOD......I would prefer we stay on track......BTW most people that point the finger don't have a clue on setup but everybody else is a cheater because you can't set your boat up....


If anybody would accept this challenge I would put my money on Randy and give you a boat with more Horsepower and less weight in some real water and he would hand your ass to you.

Also Class 7 has one of the highest boat counts in it's class racing

Now back to racing I need a phucking boat count....PLEASE

Those formulas were awesome ! in what 01 02 there were four of dominating .

Get in touch with me

[QUOTE=Unlimited jd;4330934]Stinson I'll give you a ring at lunchtime[/QUOTE

You all getting engaged:)

[QUOTE=Vortec Bandit;4331192]Why are you jealous????

What's our count at I need a count

By Trent's count we have 10 F1's and 8 F2's.......Now I need a commitment like a real commitment in writing so I can take it to the next stage......

How many races at u trying to schedule and where would they be?

GOOD LUCK , with that,.......didn't Hollis try that a few years back?

Depends on if anybody actually steps up and commits to racing.....but hypothetically let's say they do I'm going to do 3 races in Jersey to start....

Have no idea but we'll see where it goes nothing ventured nothing gained!!!!

Boy oh boy now I ask you guys to step and all I hear is CRICKETS.....CHIRP, CHIRP

The Fast Forward Corsa is still Steve Miklos and we have multiple engines to run any class with it. Joe Irwin