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Uncle Dave 03-29-2014 01:18 PM

Bob Micheletti Getting it on.

http://i.imgur.com/5e5plSB.jpg

UD

Uncle Dave 03-29-2014 01:25 PM

Cove Time. Boater on left had Wellcraft Nova when I met him 20 years ago- He figured it out what he really had when the seats ripped out of the floor on hard turn.

Boater on right had a "Baker" pretty fast but horribly flex- he's onboard now.

Cant wait to boat with you guys!

http://i.imgur.com/rDd6No3.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/y2Pxdnu.jpg

UD

GAZ 03-29-2014 02:04 PM

Wow! Nice spot Schweeng. I'm pretty sure that is my boat. What boat launch is this? I'm hoping to take my boat back there on day.

Schweeng 03-29-2014 04:28 PM

Pretty sure its in Los Alamitos or Newport harbor.

UD - you thinking of doing the Spring run to Avalon next weekend? SCOPE event.

Chris

BUP 03-29-2014 05:40 PM

Looks like Long Beach (area) to me, can't remember what it is called - If I am correct about from the pics ??? The location is somewhat across the street from Long Beach Yacht Sales, If you never been or had someone show where the heck it is - hard to find if you are a OOTer. You have a very long no wake - idle zone to get out in the open water.

Uncle Dave 03-29-2014 11:04 PM


Originally Posted by Schweeng (Post 4097998)
Pretty sure its in Los Alamitos or Newport harbor.

UD - you thinking of doing the Spring run to Avalon next weekend? SCOPE event.

Chris

In vegas next week at my biggest tradeshow of the year - NAB.
Would love to go otherwise.

UD

lavey jr 03-30-2014 03:22 AM


Originally Posted by GAZ (Post 4097959)
Wow! Nice spot Schweeng. I'm pretty sure that is my boat. What boat launch is this? I'm hoping to take my boat back there on day.


Originally Posted by Schweeng (Post 4097998)
Pretty sure its in Los Alamitos or Newport harbor.

UD - you thinking of doing the Spring run to Avalon next weekend? SCOPE event.

Chris

Nice eyes but sorry to break it to you guys... That's Ray Lee's 2750. Same design but has 1 different color, your's has purple and his is more of a blue. This was during Lavey's Catalina Fun Run we used to have. The launch ramp is Davys locker out of new port

stimleck 03-30-2014 07:57 AM

These laveycrafts have to be one of the best built boats around, the pride in their glass work is amazing, I would love to see the east coast builders offer an option of eliminating the gel in the bilge. It would expose any potential rot earlier also

lavey jr 03-30-2014 12:52 PM


Originally Posted by stimleck (Post 4098173)
These laveycrafts have to be one of the best built boats around, the pride in their glass work is amazing, I would love to see the east coast builders offer an option of eliminating the gel in the bilge. It would expose any potential rot earlier also

That is one reason Lavey's come standard with non painted bilge and keeps color bilge as an option. There for IF in doubt something was to happen to the laminate, its easily spotted and you know exactly where to fix. Some people also like the clean fiberglass look vs color.

lavey jr 03-30-2014 01:05 PM

Nice group of Lavey's (and a few other companies) heading out to Catalina Island!

http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/k...0330080846.jpg
http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/k...28Medium29.jpghttp://i278.photobucket.com/albums/k...28Medium29.jpg
http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/k...28Medium29.jpg
http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/k...28Medium29.jpg
http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/k...2/DSC07823.jpg
http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/k...2/DSC07846.jpg

derrickc 03-30-2014 01:52 PM


Originally Posted by BUP (Post 4097851)
All Lavey regatta with a B&H thrown in. I never seen that many Nuera's all together either. I think I like the smoked windshields on the Lavey's now especially the low profile one's. I know that launch area very well also. Derrick what did you end up buying? If I remember correctly you called me a couple of times about 3 or 4 years ago.

I got a 23ft wakeboard boat & a 19ft flat bottom, both jets. They were both cheap but one was too slow and the other too small. Sold them and been riding with friends for the last 3yrs...

Uncle Dave 03-30-2014 01:58 PM


Originally Posted by derrickc (Post 4098325)
I got a 23ft wakeboard boat & a 19ft flat bottom, both jets. They were both cheap but one was too slow and the other too small. Sold them and been riding with friends for the last 3yrs...

Best boat ever- your best friends boat!

http://i.imgur.com/iHOMb8t.jpg

UD

BUP 03-30-2014 02:54 PM

I know that boat to. Yes it is very nice. Anyways what is Lavey's lay up. Especially in the engine compartment, stringers, transom

In the compartment alone is it, wood or balsa or XL 10 marine grade wood, Also is it resin over then clear coat or something else. Just asking cause I really like it. Also wondering how they get that very smooth finish of that look. I know the engine hatch is reinforced with balsa for the wood look. Thanks

BUP 03-30-2014 02:59 PM

Derrick I am not familiar with a TRUE wakeboard boat that is jet propulsion. What do you have. Ski boat different story. You must be an older Sanger.

Uncle Dave 03-30-2014 03:55 PM


Originally Posted by BUP (Post 4098354)
I know that boat to. Yes it is very nice. Anyways what is Lavey's lay up. Especially in the engine compartment, stringers, transom

In the compartment alone is it, wood or balsa or XL 10 marine grade wood, Also is it resin over then clear coat or something else. Just asking cause I really like it. Also wondering how they get that very smooth finish of that look. I know the engine hatch is reinforced with balsa for the wood look. Thanks

Never got the straight secret sauce myself...
Love the vacuumed balsa look though.

Company "S" actually rules this roost and makes this a feature (laveys a solid#2)

East Coasters don't have any idea what they are looking at when they first see a boat "s", as most have never seen a performance rigged V drive with a full plate system - and if the guys moving enough beans say 1000+ - maybe even a turbo 400 set up for 2 speeds.

UD

http://i.imgur.com/S1Q9s79.jpg

derrickc 03-30-2014 04:06 PM


Originally Posted by BUP (Post 4098359)
Derrick I am not familiar with a TRUE wakeboard boat that is jet propulsion. What do you have. Ski boat different story. You must be an older Sanger.

It wasn't a true wakeboard boat. It was a Yamaha...

Uncle Dave 03-30-2014 04:10 PM


Originally Posted by derrickc (Post 4098388)
It wasn't a true wakeboard boat. It was a Yamaha...

Best "cheap" boat on the market. Love those things.

UD

GoodTrade 2750 03-30-2014 07:50 PM


Originally Posted by Uncle Dave (Post 4098330)
Best boat ever- your best friends boat!

http://i.imgur.com/iHOMb8t.jpg

UD

UD,
In case there have not been enough comments, I just want to say that your Lavey is beautiful and the pride of ownership is so evident! She always looks great and the choice of colors/graphics are timeless. I pulled mine from storage a week ago and have it at a friend's shop and it is funny to hear the comments from them all; "that can't be gel, must be paint...." I can see where the paint lines end..." , I bet they clear coated it"
They just don't get it and I'm loving it!
-GT

stimleck 03-30-2014 09:26 PM

why cant you say the name?



Originally Posted by Uncle Dave (Post 4098383)
Never got the straight secret sauce myself...
Love the vacuumed balsa look though.

Company "S" actually rules this roost and makes this a feature (laveys a solid#2)

East Coasters don't have any idea what they are looking at when they first see a boat "s", as most have never seen a performance rigged V drive with a full plate system - and if the guys moving enough beans say 1000+ - maybe even a turbo 400 set up for 2 speeds.

UD

http://i.imgur.com/S1Q9s79.jpg


Uncle Dave 03-30-2014 10:04 PM

Just trying to be subtle. Like saying the "N" boat in the other thread. Schiada is the manufacturer of this boat in this pict.
They are another So Cal custom shop with a long history and build fantastic unique products built with a high degree of craftsmanship.
Check out my friend Alexis 2400 HP 24 ft drive Schiada with a compound turbo & supercharged big block in it.

GT - thank you, I worked hard and saved a long time for this toy and Im very happy with it and proud of it. I know you will enjoy your machine for many years to come. IF you could see how good my 1991 lavey product product still looked you'd be astonished.


UD
Alexis ride
http://i.imgur.com/HJfykI4.jpg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2mRHAH-4AyI

bert4332 03-31-2014 09:18 PM

Company "S" also builds one monster 32'. Saw one on the east coast in Maryland being towed, big boat that I was told does very well in the rough.

Schweeng 04-01-2014 12:17 AM

Saw it a few times as well...monster and I think it's one of only a few. Something is funky about it....kind of proportionate funky.... Would love to have a "S" boat (21') for the river... OMG that would be the ticket.

BUP 04-01-2014 01:51 AM

Schiada is in the classifieds up here under other. Its a 2009 - 32 with 525's at DCB for 155k also there is another Schiada 32 on boat trader that has 6.2 Merc's. 6.2 's, wonder who would order such a very nice big boat and put 6.2's in it. Kind of like buying a new Stingray Vette and ordering it with only 200 hp.

Back in 2000 Schiada advertised that they had a 29 single on the market, I never seen one nor seen one featured in any of the boating mags. Anyways they really make a nice boat also. Schiada performance boat, another very hard find. Speaking of hard finds, I have something in the works. Totally different coming soon I hope.

Uncle Dave 04-01-2014 10:10 AM


Originally Posted by bert4332 (Post 4099115)
Company "S" also builds one monster 32'. Saw one on the east coast in Maryland being towed, big boat that I was told does very well in the rough.

Company S's boats are very large for their size and remarkably solid (their layup routine looks a like like Laveys) and they take great care of their customers, and know everyone. Its not uncommon to see their 21-4 foot boats going to and from Catalina.

They are big and heavy and dont run fast per HP per se they are usually slow when compared to the top three with similar factory power. (42 being pretty fast for stock power)

Thing is there are very few Schiadas with stock power - that isnt why you buy a Schiada.
The owners tend to highly power them and often use V drives - one can never know just what you are seeing and on the river a turbo big block is kind of the standard thing for them all hidden neatly under a hatch so they can be quite stealth. Not usually the prettiest with funky lines, but I think these boats are beautiful.

There will be a V drive Schiada in my flotilla someday- after a deck boat.

If you want to see a monster look a their 42.




UD

Uncle Dave 04-01-2014 10:12 AM


Originally Posted by BUP (Post 4099185)
Schiada is in the classifieds up here under other. Its a 2009 - 32 with 525's at DCB for 155k also there is another Schiada 32 on boat trader that has 6.2 Merc's. 6.2 's, wonder who would order such a very nice big boat and put 6.2's in it. Kind of like buying a new Stingray Vette and ordering it with only 200 hp.

Back in 2000 Schiada advertised that they had a 29 single on the market, I never seen one nor seen one featured in any of the boating mags. Anyways they really make a nice boat also. Schiada performance boat, another very hard find. Speaking of hard finds, I have something in the works. Totally different coming soon I hope.

I'm guessing the owner pulled the big power he built and stuffed it with those to be turn key. Looking forward to seeing what you are up to.

UD

Uncle Dave 04-01-2014 11:15 AM

My friend that owns the boat here - lets call it the "C" boat. Its a 91 like my 20.8.

Hatch was just replaced to the tune of 2K because all the wood was rotted and unable to hold the bolts.
The floor was rotted to but not inclusive of the stringers. 5,000.00.

This can happen to almost any boat thats abused but this boat was cared for with great love

The fiberglass floor with a liner draining to the bilge is the ticket as is a one piece hatch.

If you flip boats after a season and only buy fresh no big deal, but as the boats age how they were constructed has a huge impact on longevity.


http://i.imgur.com/U2niVcO.jpg

Uncle Dave 04-01-2014 12:40 PM

First trip of 2014
 
Will Be in Parker 12-16. Rented a house in the keys going to chill after the big show.
Will have said 22 cole super hawk and the 20.8. Picked her up yesterday. Eric was a big help.

Foot throttle boats are a blast too- I pondered giving this little rocket up, but its soooo fun.

UD

http://i.imgur.com/nTwk4VY.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/jbvjnnv.jpg

The distortion is the youtube stabilization

The very last few seconds of the ride when we were coming of plane the reaction of the passengers was priceless.

"Holy ****" from the dude
"Oh My God" from the chick (she was smoking too)

The wife units (riding shotgun) is a pretty cool customer.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yiYbs97NSyI

BUP 04-01-2014 12:53 PM

Dave who rigged your boat with ITS ? Or I should say it appears to be ITS from Merc. - Pic a little dark on the back end to see clearly. I know that was not available back then. So your buying a Cole or was that the boat with the rotted wood from pic above.

Uncle Dave 04-01-2014 01:26 PM


Originally Posted by BUP (Post 4099424)
Dave who rigged your boat with ITS ? Or I should say it appears to be ITS from Merc. - Pic a little dark on the back end to see clearly. I know that was not available back then. So your buying a Cole or was that the boat with the rotted wood from pic above.

Boat was rerigged in 08 with an ITS and fully hydraulic steering by - Laverycraft Performance Boats.

This was really the only way to add external steering on this boat with cutting into the molded swim step (a unique feature in 91 - that came back to haunt me- but if its worth doing its worth overdoing - I spent the dough.

The result is spectacular - The boat turns like a slot car. Especially with that looooong Speedmaster thats keeping me from the mid 90's with it.

The Cole Superhawk is a buddies.. Like those boats -especially Little Durrells as its got a BoostPower 502 in it that flat hauls coal.

I never liked coles enough to pick them over Lavey either on the first or second purchase. I look at everything.

UD

http://i.imgur.com/WG225Za.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/Q1BAuqo.jpg

lavey jr 04-01-2014 02:30 PM


Originally Posted by Uncle Dave (Post 4099411)
Will Be in Parker 12-16. Rented a house in the keys going to chill after the big show.
Will have said 22 cole super hawk and the 20.8. Picked her up yesterday. Eric was a big help.

Foot throttle boats are a blast too- I pondered giving this little rocket up, but its soooo fun.

UD

Eric as in my buddy?

Here's a couple vids I took of Uncle Dave's 20.8

Fast forward to 1.30

http://youtu.be/M1jGIuv7JxI

http://youtu.be/xfbNkf2FPk0

Uncle Dave 04-01-2014 02:36 PM


Originally Posted by lavey jr (Post 4099463)
Eric as in my buddy?

Here's a couple vids I took of Uncle Dave's 20.8

Fast forward to 1.30

http://youtu.be/M1jGIuv7JxI

http://youtu.be/xfbNkf2FPk0

Yes sir, he did the sea pump yesterday with Sr.

UD

lavey jr 04-01-2014 02:39 PM


Originally Posted by Uncle Dave (Post 4099466)
Yes sir, he did the sea pump yesterday with Sr.

UD

Right on. He almost got his head cut off by a seagull at 85mph+ in your boat haha

Uncle Dave 04-01-2014 02:41 PM


Originally Posted by lavey jr (Post 4099467)
Right on. He almost got his head cut off by a seagull at 85mph+ in your boat haha

yes he did.

Truth machine...all by myself light load of gas...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yYK78rm-KPI

UD

BUP 04-01-2014 09:21 PM

Dave so is your 1991 Lavey an Al Lavey boat ? As Im not sure that Jeff and Chris owned Lavey way back then, correct? It looks fast as hell. Your not kidding as you said you bit the bullet with the drive and the ITS with the install that had to be close to 20 k. if all of that was brand new.

Ok so I have to ask, the dude in the passengers seat from the first vid - I guess his name is Eric - the one who almost ate the bird. 90 MPH and he had no glasses on ? That was a feat in itself. Funny the dude puts his sun glasses on after the run is done.

I am somewhat surprised, no one wearing life jackets - especially at those speeds and just recently re rigged. I'm guessing a test drive ? Glad no one forgot to tighten a bolt. Just saying, NOT my business nor telling anyone what to do, just being in the business its a habit especially test driving. Man your boat was - is fast.

Uncle Dave 04-01-2014 09:43 PM


Originally Posted by BUP (Post 4099708)
Dave so is your 1991 Lavey an Al Lavey boat ? It looks fast as hell. Your not kidding as you said you bit the bullet with the drive and the ITS with the install that had to be close to 20 k. if all of that was brand new.

Ok so I have to ask, the dude in the passengers seat from the first vid - I guess his name is Eric - the one who almost ate the bird. 90 MPH and he had no glasses on ? That was a feat in itself. Funny the dude puts his glasses on after the run is done. Also did Lavey's dad jump their case for not wearing life jackets - especially at those speeds and just recently re rigged. I'm guessing a test drive ? Glad no one forgot to tighten a bolt. Just saying, not telling anyone what to do. Man your boat was - is fast.

Sounds pretty close to that....,and yes all spanking new parts. There are very few 21 ft boats with this level of hardware anywhere.

It was actually Jeff Camires Boat.
This boat was originally documented in Poweboats magazine.

Eric is the dude in the passenger seat- lets just say I think he gets the eye protection thing now.
As for Jr ripping around like that - setup had been proven -but the mill was freshened and gone through with some new stuff it was more of a question to see how much taller a prop it could pull after slowly wearing down in 10 years. It actually runs faster with a 3 blade but Im still experimenting.

I wear a mustang inflatable myself when Im footing it.

The boat is blisteringly fast and is built to sustain high speed running while running ice cold. You can cruise at 60not even into the secondaries sipping fuel or you can spin it to 6K till you drain it dry and do it over again this setup has ridiculous control over the oil and water temps.

Ive run many time from th springs to Laughlin for lunch and gambling with the babes and back (fueling at AVI both ways)

Everyone that gets to drive this thing in its element laughs and giggles.

It blasts through the midrange like you get shot out of the cannon while being super easy to steer and control while actually turning
Its a low 92-3 boat with my imco and herring on it. 90 with the speed master and a B4 28 spinning.

Stop by on the weekend in Parker you can drive it yourself and see. Its an awesome parker strip boat on a nice day.

UD

http://i.imgur.com/JkJ3lz9.jpg

BUP 04-01-2014 10:00 PM

Small block, did you already tell me who built the motors ? if not who built them with 500 hp. That was not accomplished by an average builder. So your 20.8 likes the 7 inches of set back and did they raise your X or a 2 inch shorty drive. It looks like a standard drive length. A tad hard to tell in the pic what length the drive is being trimmed up but again it looks standard length to me.

Uncle Dave 04-01-2014 11:46 PM


Originally Posted by BUP (Post 4099743)
Small block, did you already tell me who built the motors ? if not who built them with 500 hp. That was not accomplished by an average builder. So your 20.8 likes the 7 inches of set back and did they raise your X or a 2 inch shorty drive. It looks like a standard drive length. A tad hard to tell in the pic what length the drive is being trimmed up but again it looks standard length to me.

Its actually about 500 / 520ft/lb. Dick Gazan built the last 2 engines. Dick died in 2012 off to the big speedway in the sky. Youve seen lots of car craft articles with Dick doing engine shootouts with guys like Joe Sherman and Lingenfelter. The old man had some damm solid combos, but guys like Madera seem to be able to get a bit more.
Dicks mills last about a decade before a freshening.

Alexi freshed up all the old parts put new ignition in, pulled the recirculating pump of and did a bit of touch up work.

It likes the setback.

The standard Speemaster lower is almost 2 in lower than my old Bravo unit and slower- hence the speed pick up with my imco lower off the 2750 which is -2.

Uncle Dave

BUP 04-02-2014 01:30 AM

U mean Sport Master correct. not speed master. The Sport masters gear case has a modified wedge shape skeg that was pattered off the dry sump Six drives skeg. The Sport master skeg has more surface area than the bravo plus its 2 inches longer in length compared to the Bravo.

Uncle Dave 04-02-2014 09:10 AM


Originally Posted by BUP (Post 4099804)
U mean Sport Master correct. not speed master. The Sport masters gear case has a modified wedge shape skeg that was pattered off the dry sump Six drives skeg. The Sport master skeg has more surface area than the bravo plus its 2 inches longer in length compared to the Bravo.

correct sir!

One thing I call it without a doubt is - slower. Im gonna start working on three blades this summer to see what I can wring out of it.

This package is magical - any regular guy can deal with a carbed small block chevy that runs on pump gas.
Boat is relatively quiet, and comfortable on water that fits what it was intended for. Outruns 95% of anything you are likely to come across and the guys that do outrun you likely spent 10X what this cost to buy own and run. (aside form the ITS which I consider a safety feature) -

A 600HP big block would have been more fun but far less responsible as I can now resell the rig with confidence to someone who knows what they are looking at - or pull it apart and resuse its guts for another project down the line and put a stock as a rock mill in it.

UD

http://i.imgur.com/C44XPzc.jpg

Uncle Dave 04-02-2014 01:39 PM

Pulchritude makes every outing on the water more pleasant. All Legal.

UD
http://i.imgur.com/ZhPjtx9.jpg


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