Keep the 351's or go chevy?
03-25-2010, 10:36 PM
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Serial number, 74677.
Year Manufactured 1969
Model year 1970
So it looks like my hull is pre the new numbering system you mentioned.
I know what you are looking at, my Cigarette has that kind of number CRT 282850879
Does this help ?
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03-26-2010, 12:30 PM
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The transom numbering system didn't start until '73 or '74....have you seen otherwise?
03-26-2010, 12:50 PM
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03-26-2010, 01:02 PM
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Both of my 1973 Sedan's had HIN numbers. I had a 1970 w/twin H &M 302" Fords and Volvo drives. The red sedan I purchased doe's have and numbers anywhere on the boat, guess I'm SOL trying to figure out what year it is. I believe tha HIN started in NOV. '72.. "HIGH LIFE"
03-26-2010, 02:03 PM
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You are right.vin #'s did not start on the transom until 72-73,they were sometimes on the console or hidden.It could be #46 Hannah DeJong,keel laid or sold 4/23/69 or a Coast Guard boat #67 keel laid or sold on 7/3/69
Brownie any reason they did not put vin#'s on the boats, since they started numbering with PattyLou...J.Negler boat? Bud
Brownie any reason they did not put vin#'s on the boats, since they started numbering with PattyLou...J.Negler boat? Bud
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03-26-2010, 03:53 PM
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I just checked thee insturment pod where the gauge panel goes, and there is nothing written inside.
Is the number I have not a good number?
When I bought the boat, October 23, 1991, I tried researching the ownership trail and found 3 owners prior to me, probably a total of only 8 to 10 years leaving 10 years unaccounted for
The previous nearly a year, before that a family had it 8 or so years, and I only knew of a couple of gentlemen who had it before that, and I don't know for how long. Boats and cars during the 70's gas crissis changed a lot of hands cheep. I was never able to get information any farther back including a call to Magnum who explained all the records during the Apeco era were gone.
How do I post a picture here? I will send one of the new dash pod and one of the boat on the trailer.
I was just in the boat.......what a nightmare! I haven't been inside her in years ...... and it will be a total rebuild. Not sure if I can even save the new upholstery, the frame work is all going bad.
Is the number I have not a good number?
When I bought the boat, October 23, 1991, I tried researching the ownership trail and found 3 owners prior to me, probably a total of only 8 to 10 years leaving 10 years unaccounted for
The previous nearly a year, before that a family had it 8 or so years, and I only knew of a couple of gentlemen who had it before that, and I don't know for how long. Boats and cars during the 70's gas crissis changed a lot of hands cheep. I was never able to get information any farther back including a call to Magnum who explained all the records during the Apeco era were gone.
How do I post a picture here? I will send one of the new dash pod and one of the boat on the trailer.
I was just in the boat.......what a nightmare! I haven't been inside her in years ...... and it will be a total rebuild. Not sure if I can even save the new upholstery, the frame work is all going bad.
03-26-2010, 05:14 PM
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Crallscars,
Back to your original question . . . IF the Crusaders are Ford . . .
although not original, I suggest switching to Chevy power.
From my own experience . . I built a 400HP 302 SBF for my 1969 Donzi . . there's nothing available for the Ford sb engines as a marine application. My CMI headers took 8 months to get, cam was custom grind, and everything else was complex.
On the flip side I'm building two new 383 cu in SB Chevies for my 27 Magnum, using new Dart blocks, Eagle forged cranks and rods, AFR Aluminum heads and an off the shelf Comp cam . .
so much easier . . . and far less expensive.
that said, if your boat needs a new transom, consider switching to one big block with a blower . . .and really make it fly . . there's lots of single BBC Magnum 27s.
There's a thread here on the "three man" repower and rebuild that has lots of good info.
Good luck and keep us posted!
Back to your original question . . . IF the Crusaders are Ford . . .
although not original, I suggest switching to Chevy power.
From my own experience . . I built a 400HP 302 SBF for my 1969 Donzi . . there's nothing available for the Ford sb engines as a marine application. My CMI headers took 8 months to get, cam was custom grind, and everything else was complex.
On the flip side I'm building two new 383 cu in SB Chevies for my 27 Magnum, using new Dart blocks, Eagle forged cranks and rods, AFR Aluminum heads and an off the shelf Comp cam . .
so much easier . . . and far less expensive.
that said, if your boat needs a new transom, consider switching to one big block with a blower . . .and really make it fly . . there's lots of single BBC Magnum 27s.
There's a thread here on the "three man" repower and rebuild that has lots of good info.
Good luck and keep us posted!
03-26-2010, 07:03 PM
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Crallscars,
Back to your original question . . . IF the Crusaders are Ford . . .
although not original, I suggest switching to Chevy power.
From my own experience . . I built a 400HP 302 SBF for my 1969 Donzi . . there's nothing available for the Ford sb engines as a marine application. My CMI headers took 8 months to get, cam was custom grind, and everything else was complex.
On the flip side I'm building two new 383 cu in SB Chevies for my 27 Magnum, using new Dart blocks, Eagle forged cranks and rods, AFR Aluminum heads and an off the shelf Comp cam . .
so much easier . . . and far less expensive.
that said, if your boat needs a new transom, consider switching to one big block with a blower . . .and really make it fly . . there's lots of single BBC Magnum 27s.
There's a thread here on the "three man" repower and rebuild that has lots of good info.
Good luck and keep us posted!
Back to your original question . . . IF the Crusaders are Ford . . .
although not original, I suggest switching to Chevy power.
From my own experience . . I built a 400HP 302 SBF for my 1969 Donzi . . there's nothing available for the Ford sb engines as a marine application. My CMI headers took 8 months to get, cam was custom grind, and everything else was complex.
On the flip side I'm building two new 383 cu in SB Chevies for my 27 Magnum, using new Dart blocks, Eagle forged cranks and rods, AFR Aluminum heads and an off the shelf Comp cam . .
so much easier . . . and far less expensive.
that said, if your boat needs a new transom, consider switching to one big block with a blower . . .and really make it fly . . there's lots of single BBC Magnum 27s.
There's a thread here on the "three man" repower and rebuild that has lots of good info.
Good luck and keep us posted!
Thanks for the engine suggestions, I haven't started my 351's in a very long time, close to 18 years. If they are still good, I will probably go with them. They are pretty much stock 351 high performance engines with Edlbrock Performer 351 intakes and some kind of single pump Holley carbs. The former swapped out the cams to what I don't know, there was a bit of a lope to them. I have twin 450/ 454's in my 28 Cigarette and its far too crowded. I would only consider SBC's for the Magnum if I had to make the change.
Doug
