Prop/Spacer Table - 09 Heat
11-25-2008 | 10:16 AM
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Steve,
Mike Latka, the new production manager for Nordic, suplied the spacers and props for this testing with the condition that I document my findings and e-mail them to him. Hence the Table. He has had it for about a month. When I last checked in with him, he was doing spacer testing on a stock 496 boat.
I also sent a copy to Pete, the VP of Nordic, at his request.
All of this leaves me to believe that we will be seeing some different x-dimension setups on Heats, from Nordic in the future.
A special thanks to Tim of OCM for facilitating this testing.
Chris
Mike Latka, the new production manager for Nordic, suplied the spacers and props for this testing with the condition that I document my findings and e-mail them to him. Hence the Table. He has had it for about a month. When I last checked in with him, he was doing spacer testing on a stock 496 boat.
I also sent a copy to Pete, the VP of Nordic, at his request.
All of this leaves me to believe that we will be seeing some different x-dimension setups on Heats, from Nordic in the future.
A special thanks to Tim of OCM for facilitating this testing.
Chris
I've got thousands into props, fuel and ton of my time (all on my own) to fix this very problem. I hope they use this data and apply it.
11-25-2008 | 04:28 PM
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Chris
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While it is true that Tim and Nordic supplied most of the props (I supplied a few), and the spacers, along with the time to change the spacers.... I supplied many, many hours, and hundreds of gallons of fuel to do this testing.
Thats why they call boating a recreational sport.
I enjoyed every minute of it!
You gotta pay to play,
And most of the fun is in the chase !
Chris
P.S. I will continue testing/playing
Thats why they call boating a recreational sport.
I enjoyed every minute of it!
You gotta pay to play,
And most of the fun is in the chase !
Chris
P.S. I will continue testing/playing
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11-25-2008 | 09:41 PM
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While it is true that Tim and Nordic supplied most of the props (I supplied a few), and the spacers, along with the time to change the spacers.... I supplied many, many hours, and hundreds of gallons of fuel to do this testing.
Thats why they call boating a recreational sport.
I enjoyed every minute of it!
You gotta pay to play,
And most of the fun is in the chase !
Chris
P.S. I will continue testing/playing
Thats why they call boating a recreational sport.
I enjoyed every minute of it!
You gotta pay to play,
And most of the fun is in the chase !
Chris
P.S. I will continue testing/playing
Nice testing, amazing you can find 5mph, which I'm assuming also helped (may not cure) your water psi issue. Now all you need is more power
11-25-2008 | 10:07 PM
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Chris
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Dustin,
I promised my wife that I would not do your power-ups untill Febuary. But I am REALLY looking forward to them.
I solved my water psi issue per your recommendations, by modifying my IMCO lower to include a water inlet on top of the nose-cone. Works Awsome!
Thanks for all your time, and your help with setup thus far.
Chris
P.S. You will be hearing from me in Febuary.
I promised my wife that I would not do your power-ups untill Febuary. But I am REALLY looking forward to them.
I solved my water psi issue per your recommendations, by modifying my IMCO lower to include a water inlet on top of the nose-cone. Works Awsome!
Thanks for all your time, and your help with setup thus far.
Chris
P.S. You will be hearing from me in Febuary.
Last edited by CB-BLR; 11-26-2008 at 08:45 AM.
11-27-2008 | 02:37 PM
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The spacers were provided for testing by Nordic. I got to keep the one that worked the best. I retained the 1.5" spacer, which puts my prop depth at 5" below the keel.
Chris
Chris
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12-02-2008 | 11:38 AM
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Reading all this is a little frustrating......
I get the part about fuel and hours.
The problem I was having was procuring the parts to do the testing. Outside of a couple props I was never able to get anyone at Nordic to follow through on the other stuff I needed.
Everything was offered at "oem cost" and even at that I never heard back from anyone. I kinda gave up Nordic and went and did (and currently doing) it all on my own.
Hope it all works... I'm looking forward to hearing how the prop runs.
Take care.
I get the part about fuel and hours.
The problem I was having was procuring the parts to do the testing. Outside of a couple props I was never able to get anyone at Nordic to follow through on the other stuff I needed.
Everything was offered at "oem cost" and even at that I never heard back from anyone. I kinda gave up Nordic and went and did (and currently doing) it all on my own.
Hope it all works... I'm looking forward to hearing how the prop runs.
Take care.
12-03-2008 | 01:25 PM
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Just my thought here (take it for what it's worth 
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It's going to be a hard call for Nordic to adjust anything across the board. Some of you are raising the X, most are lowering it and the fastest Nordic Heat I've witnessed hated the spacer and might have even benefitted from a shorty
Granted most Heats like the spacer. That being said; using the "most" factor as the driver of change, Nordic should lower the X an inch.
The minority then could use shortys but bottom line is there is not one cure all answer here
Dave
)It's going to be a hard call for Nordic to adjust anything across the board. Some of you are raising the X, most are lowering it and the fastest Nordic Heat I've witnessed hated the spacer and might have even benefitted from a shorty
Granted most Heats like the spacer. That being said; using the "most" factor as the driver of change, Nordic should lower the X an inch.
The minority then could use shortys but bottom line is there is not one cure all answer here
Dave
12-03-2008 | 01:53 PM
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Just my thought here (take it for what it's worth )
It's going to be a hard call for Nordic to adjust anything across the board. Some of you are raising the X, most are lowering it and the fastest Nordic Heat I've witnessed hated the spacer and might have even benefitted from a shorty
Granted most Heats like the spacer. That being said; using the "most" factor as the driver of change, Nordic should lower the X an inch.
The minority then could use shortys but bottom line is there is not one cure all answer here
Dave
)It's going to be a hard call for Nordic to adjust anything across the board. Some of you are raising the X, most are lowering it and the fastest Nordic Heat I've witnessed hated the spacer and might have even benefitted from a shorty
Granted most Heats like the spacer. That being said; using the "most" factor as the driver of change, Nordic should lower the X an inch.
The minority then could use shortys but bottom line is there is not one cure all answer here
Dave
You are correct that one XD isn't going to work for every application. The open bow boats seem to need more lift than the hard decks. People load their boats differently. AND, as a general rule, the higher the HP to weight ratio of any boat, the higher you can run run drive. A 700SCI boat should need a higher XD than a stock 496/425, for the same reason you buddy's boat with the big motor didn't need a spacer.
STILL, Nordic should do enough of their own testing, or at least use our experience to develop a database of what XD works with with what model, deck type and engine/drive combination.
Just curious........since they are very close to Lake Havasu, do they lake test their boats after final rigging? I would, and I'll even volunteer to do it
. The guy with the gold chains
tests all of his boats.Regards,
Steve
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12-03-2008 | 03:24 PM
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Chris
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Steve,
I believe that they water test all of their boats. I know that they tested mine... I know they tested the 700 Ilmore boat. I just am not sure that they do a lot of tweeking after that.
I believe that they mostly build 496 Heats. That is their #1 seller. I agree that lowering the x-dimentsion at the factory would probabily be beneficial. Especially now that they are making the boats "wood free" A lighter boat sits higher in the water, and therefore needs a little lower x-dimension.
Just my opinion,
Chris
I believe that they water test all of their boats. I know that they tested mine... I know they tested the 700 Ilmore boat. I just am not sure that they do a lot of tweeking after that.
I believe that they mostly build 496 Heats. That is their #1 seller. I agree that lowering the x-dimentsion at the factory would probabily be beneficial. Especially now that they are making the boats "wood free" A lighter boat sits higher in the water, and therefore needs a little lower x-dimension.
Just my opinion,
Chris
