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100 MPH Club
Ok I'm sure there's been other threads about it before but who has been 100mph in a 24 Pantera ?? What to expect ??
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I have not and would not even think about going that fast in one. A few people have 28's going almost that fast and they have posted that mid 90's is getting loose.
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I believe the 24 "Plum loco" is/was a +100mph boat :)
JO would know for sure. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FbEDvApTi_w // Mange |
JO would know for sure.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FbEDvApTi_w // Mange[/QUOTE] Jo told me he did over a 100 in a 24 but I don't know what boat it was ! |
Many different types of boats much better suited for that kinda speed. :lolhit: :evilb:
When I need to go that fast, I hop in the Allison. :drink: |
Originally Posted by ziemer
(Post 3197695)
Many different types of boats much better suited for that kinda speed. :lolhit: :evilb:
When I need to go that fast, I hop in the Allison. :drink: |
Originally Posted by Griff
(Post 3196825)
I have not and would not even think about going that fast in one. A few people have 28's going almost that fast and they have posted that mid 90's is getting loose.
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I know Jeff Cropper's brother had a 24SB that ran over 100.
When i had Ziemers boat, i thought 75 was moving pretty good. Over 85 would be a serious handful. |
Originally Posted by Stormrider
(Post 3198137)
I know Jeff Cropper's brother had a 24SB that ran over 100.
When i had Ziemers boat, i thought 75 was moving pretty good. Over 85 would be a serious handful. |
go for it
Originally Posted by OCCJoe
(Post 3198279)
I did 85 with less hp , had to trim to the max and made it loose . Now gonna have 800hp and I'm gonna try and keep the nose down with some tab . There will be video !
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When is this going to happen and good luck?
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Originally Posted by bigboat28
(Post 3198343)
When is this going to happen and good luck?
Numbers before end of month ! |
good luck stay safe.
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Originally Posted by OCCJoe
(Post 3198279)
I did 85 with less hp , had to trim to the max and made it loose . Now gonna have 800hp and I'm gonna try and keep the nose down with some tab . There will be video !
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Originally Posted by OCCJoe
(Post 3197893)
Ziemer are you saying you wouldn't go 100 in your Pantera if it could ??????
75-78 in mine is nothing to drive, but you're right, it's gotta be real loose to get there, unless there's a good 1-2 ft chop. However, it's stable with virtually no tendency to walk at those speeds. I only have the little 150 K-planes too, which are all the way up anyway at speed. Big difference between my Allison and my Pantera, and I use them in two completely different manners. 0-100 in the Allison is almost instant too, which is an awesome rush. Good luck though in your endeavor. :drink: |
Originally Posted by OCCJoe
(Post 3198279)
I did 85 with less hp , had to trim to the max and made it loose . Now gonna have 800hp and I'm gonna try and keep the nose down with some tab . There will be video !
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I believe with the right set-up 100 is attainable with 800 hp. I was getting into the low 90s with what is now Onesick's 24 w/ significantly less than that. That was spinning a 29 Mirage around 5500 if I recall right. It has been awhile. And yes, you want to run a touch of negative tab at those speeds.
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Originally Posted by onesickpantera
(Post 3199166)
I'm guessing around 600-625hp to get 85mph?
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If you think a 100 mph is something cool, think about it twice and three times. I did 102 in the Mig28 and it got very loose without any trim, I had plenty of ponies to continue. However, it was not fun playing with the wheel to get her under control. Been there done that ! take it for what is worth.....
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Awesome....push it to the limit....hope you have a beefy bravo and not stock
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I hit 91 with about 648 HP in my old 24 that Scarabman pointed out. I still have that 29P Mirage. Its not a plus and it helps these 24 wake up with the right HP.
Its a handful and the boat has 28 Kplanes. Except Scarabman put them on backwards!! :) |
Originally Posted by OCCJoe
(Post 3198458)
Don't make it sound like its going to be my legacy . LOL !
Numbers before end of month ! |
Originally Posted by Elite Marine
(Post 3213730)
Its a handful and the boat has 28 Kplanes. Except Scarabman put them on backwards!! :)
What I have noticed with the 24 is there is a "safe" spot which is very slight negative tab. You can run the boat through anything and it is very predictable. No launching of the bow at all and rock solid. But it scrubs about 2-3 mph off all out top-speed. It only takes a small bump of raising the tabs to make the boat handle totally different. Just my $.02 |
I took my tabs off when I did 85 , scary , scary , scary ! Lost 4mph just with tabs back on but all the way up . Might be the 30" of drag ! LOL !
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Originally Posted by OCCJoe
(Post 3214770)
I took my tabs off when I did 85 , scary , scary , scary ! Lost 4mph just with tabs back on but all the way up . Might be the 30" of drag ! LOL !
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I can't preach about my Pantera being able to handle anything you can through at it and not be willing to hang it out there myself .
I was sitting at the race next to a 34 fountain with triples this past weekend and was telling him that my 24 would go anywhere his 34 would go but he didn't want to put his money where his mouth was ! put up or shut up !!! |
Originally Posted by OCCJoe
(Post 3214921)
I can't preach about my Pantera being able to handle anything you can through at it and not be willing to hang it out there myself .
I was sitting at the race next to a 34 fountain with triples this past weekend and was telling him that my 24 would go anywhere his 34 would go but he didn't want to put his money where his mouth was ! put up or shut up !!! Put up or shut up, or... http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s...nttellme-1.jpg |
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she told me she like it when you talk HP lol
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So you told an owner with a 34 with 3 motors that your boat could go anywhere the 34 could go...? i believe this, it might go there 2 hours after and bang your brains around but sure, i bet you could...just seems a little odd.
Be safe and use good judgement getting to 100 i am sure its possible. |
Originally Posted by TOASTY
(Post 3215372)
So you told an owner with a 34 with 3 motors that your boat could go anywhere the 34 could go...
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not sure, but the extra 10 feet will help, no matter how fast you decide the boat goes, a longer boat will run better in rough seas, and you did state that you could go anywhere a 34 could go...so math suggests a 24 in 6-8 footers will most likely be slower then a 34 in 6-8 footers, it will run anywhere but just get there a little after...
I have seen and been on 38 senter consoles with 3 motors to 90. I have been on 23 center consoles with 2 motors do well into the 80s...its all relative. good luck |
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Originally Posted by TOASTY
(Post 3215372)
So you told an owner with a 34 with 3 motors that your boat could go anywhere the 34 could go...? i believe this, it might go there 2 hours after and bang your brains around but sure, i bet you could...just seems a little odd.
Be safe and use good judgement getting to 100 i am sure its possible. |
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100mph is not far fetched in a 24' boat this donzi is 100+ mph boat and its 22'
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Originally Posted by Stormrider
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you all are missing the point....i am not doubting that the boat will go over big seas and perform well. Just a boat that is 34 feet will do in more comfort. Get over your egos and use science. A boat that gets more air isnt the faster boat. A boat that is in the water i.e props moving the boat is faster then the airborne boat...crapin freaks why do i even try
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Originally Posted by TOASTY
(Post 3216361)
...crapin freaks why do i even try
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Originally Posted by Elite Marine
(Post 3213730)
I hit 91 with about 648 HP in my old 24 that Scarabman pointed out. I still have that 29P Mirage. Its not a plus and it helps these 24 wake up with the right HP.
Its a handful and the boat has 28 Kplanes. Except Scarabman put them on backwards!! :) |
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