28' project
 

found this while surfing s.fla craigslist.
If I had the $$ this would be a killer O/B conversion. Offload the I/O pc's and you might be doing OK depending on condition.
Looks interesting.

http://www.harwellmotors.com/muscle-.../PANTERA281981

IIRC, that boat is wet.

Yes very wet.
Becareful, I almost bought that boat last year.

That boat was forsale in here for a while and its trashed...... Some guy here looked at it and said it was like a swimming pool inside.

But if.......
the guy takes $6K and it comes w/two of everything to off load.
You should be able to end up w/a trailer and hull for $2K or less???
Even if it needs stringers and transom....., how many 28's are there??
I don't need another project but if it were closer I'd still go see if the hull/deck were solid.

you can buy mine for about half of what it would cost to get that thing up and running again. 96 pantera 28 single 548

If you look at the valve covers you can see that the rocker arms are covered with rust.Most of the parts are junk..

You guys have....way better eyes than I do ;)

There is very little of value in that mess. Trust me it looks MUCH better in the pics than it does in person. It was completely full of a water for so long there was moss growing in it and the trailer is junk. Every piece of wood in the boat is rotten including the dash. There is also the butchered glass work in the engine compartment and a questionable title to make it interesting.

I was going to buy it (for about 1/3 of the current price) until driving 12 hours to see it in person. Trust me, stay away from that one at any price.

Wow.
 

That's sad. Don't understand people letting something like that go to hell.
I have wasted many trips like that too. Sucks.

Ya I was the one that drove those 12 hrs with WFO1. PLEASE and I do say please don't even waste your time even looking at this boat on the internet, much less in person. I could have swam laps in this thing with as much water as there was sitting in it. I do believe I put my thumb through the dash on accident...Opps...

I could use some parts from it so if anyone hears it is going to be parted out please let me know.

Where was the boat located when all you guys saw it before ?

TEXAS

Texas..

Ya. It's like putting a Ferrari though the car wash.

if you think thats bad.... I hear horror stories from skater. They got a boat in from the east side of the US. I think a 42 ft. Boat left the factor and two years later returned a total rotton beat down piece. had 4 inches of rotting leaves in the cockpit, cover never installed, paint destroyed.

From what i hear Doug tore the whole thing back down. replace and repaired it all. And got it back to the happy owner.

boat is still in Texas
http://austin.craigslist.org/boa/2606348953.html

Dang, isn`t the parts almost worth that ? And I bet you could get it cheaper. :drink:

No.... Thing is junk.

Oh come on now.

The trailer is worth atleast $1,000
The drives and transom assemblies $2000
Hatch is worth atleast $1,000
Motors are worth $3,000 with exhaust
Throttles are worth $3-400
Hull is worth something......atleast $2-3,000

Its not junk. I would send it to pantera to look/fix any rot, if any, then sell the hatch and have them move the bulkhead back to open up the cockpit for OB conversion. Then sell the motors, drives, and transom assemblies. Slap on a pair of used 200's or 250 OB's. You'll have yourself a nice 28 twin OB with new transom for $20K and it will sell for that easy. Can be done for much less if you can do glass work yourself. Its a worthy project, not junk by any means. I've seen a 41 apache resurected after sitting on the ocean floor for a month.

You haven't seen the boat apparently. I'm not saying it can't be repaired, anything can, but it def isn't worth half of the price that he is asking. The trailer has 4 mis-matched wheels/tires, has been painted with a brush, is bent up in several places, has no title, and has a goofy home-made hitch on it. The motors are rusty 330hp 454's. They are a dime a dozen in good condition, let alone unknown internal condition. The hatch is a project on its own to make it usable. I'm not afraid of project, in fact I was looking for one at the time, but that thing is a fish pond.

You don't say, a trailer without a title..........whoever heard of such a thing. :lolhit:

A dime a dozen? The 454 short blocks alone are worth $1,000, then there is the nice oil pan and exhaust manifolds worth close to $2,500.

Those trailer axles aren't cheap either. Between those and the scrap yard you should get alteast $500 for the trailer.

How many projects have you done wfo1?

Hell after last winter I saw 330/454 with cracked blocks (freeze damage) sell for 800-1000!! in the central Texas area.
How many people pay 150-20k for a running boat then discover it needs a transom or stringer work..
Will here is a complete boat for under 9k that needs some work.
How much is a totally bare 28 hull in perfect shape?
10k?
after you sell the parts youll have a hull for half that, then you have 5k to fix it and redo it your way.......
Then again if you can find one cheaper go for it!

you consider that thing "some work"? maybe having to recover a seat or buff some gel or recover some bunks on a trailer in my opinion would be "some work" :bong:

so show me a twin engine 28 that "just needs gel buffed" for under 9k,especially one with a name like a Pantera?
It is what it is, a cheap way to get into a boat that would normally sell for three times as much for someone with time and talent but not much money at the moment

Can someone buy this thing already and show us what you can do with it. And post all receipts.

Those k-planes and pumps are worth good money too:coolcowboy:

Thats asking price guys, cash talks. I think 5k cash would bring it home easy

Ya come on someone buy this and post how much time and money you have in it....I'm guessing you won't be happy with the final out come. I have seen and been in the boat personally with Wfo and drove 14 hrs to see it..its not worth 8900..no where close to it...its all old rusted busted crap on the boat...motors rusted..planes busted..transom assembly's eatten away at..its just not worth it...if ya haven't seen the boat in person ya really have no leg to stand on in a arguement..and if ya do have a leg to stand on and ya stood in that boat it would more then likely go through the bottom of the hull...

buy my 28 single for half what it would cost to bring that thing back from the dead

Well Dudesweets boat can be had for 15k obo. thats a turn key just add power. Trailer is very road ready being that it went from the east coast to the west coast. Boat was a turn key before power was pulled.

People see a cheap price up front and think its such a good deal. This thing is a beat fish bowl.

Buy turn key and save a ton in the long run. And be able to enjoy a boat.

dudesweets boat is nice!! but its a ex race boat and race layup. limited buyers for something like that. on the other hand it is a light layup and it has all good parts just needs a powerplant. 700 horse would be a blast in that thing... men would love that boat but the women would hate it lol. im still kicking around the idea of buying that boat to have as a fun project but its on the other side of the country for me!!!!!

And how many projects have you done?

Are you saying you never even stood in the bilge? Did you even take a core sample? Why is it all these people without boats are making comments about this boat being junk, yet the guys with boats and guys that have actually done major projects say this boat is not junk?

i did a few boats this year. mostly re-rigs for people and from my experiance and with this market you can buy complete way cheaper than you can restore. not saying if someone wants a project and has the time and know how to do it it isnt a good project but if you have to pay someone to do it you will be broke before the project is over unless you can get the thing for a song and a dance. IMO motors are cheap in the big picture.. the rigging is what kills you... 500 here 1000 there it adds up really fast.. hoses, pumps, electrical, transom repair. personally i would not take on a project for myself but i dont turn down cash paying customers either. contact cig92 on here he has a cig bullet, formula 311 and 41 velocity all bare hulls he would like to unload if someone wants a project

Tim, how many boats you buying LOL.

I think you are mistaken, the people saying this boat is not junk, HAVE NOT SEEN IT. Go buy it and fix it up yourself if it's such a good deal. I have taken on quite a few projects, and I don't pay someone to do the work. In fact stlliberators boat was my old boat and it was completely gutted down to the bare hull, stringers, bulkheads everything. But I don't know anything. :rolleyes:

Did you take a core sample?

Did you take the motors apart?

I never said it was a good deal; I just said it wasn't junk. Sorry I'm picking on you guys, but you haven't really given any definitive reasons as to why the motors are junk or the hull is wet. It sounds like you saw a puddle in the bilge with some leaves, and a little rust on the motor and you rendered the entire boat junk. THen you go off on the trailer not having a title as if its uncommon, its not.

What I will say is this....
when I was just about to leave last year and go buy it..the owner called me and said he felt uncomfortable in me driving all that way and it not being up to par.
Long story short .... Buyer beware and do your Due Diligence.

THE G/F WONT KNOW ABOUT THE RACE BOAT!!!!!