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Guys, this is the Pantera forum and it is usually pretty civil so take it easy with the nonsense.
bottom line a 36 Skater with bravos and 525's that has flipped 3 times will not sell for the same cash as a one owner 368 With 1100's and #6's. just like a high hour 28 with a stock bravo and an engine built by god knows who will not sell for the same money as a boat with an Imco and a low low hour big HP motor. this doesnt make one boat a POS but it does reflect value. that is all. every boat will break and need work. the ones that dont break are the ones on the trailer or being babied which is not what an offshore boat is for. Go out and perform some upgrades on your 25k boat and it is going to add up quickly. I could have bought several boats when I bought mine. I paid a serious premium and bought what I wanted. Just depends what kind of boat you want to own. You can buy a 28 with a bravo and a 496 and run 60mph or you can buy something badassed....at the end of the day both guys can say they own a 28 Pantera or 36 skater or whatever... the boat for sale looks nice and clean and provided the motors and drives check out and you can afford to fix what is wrong I wouldnt wait around for years to save 10 grand on a boat that could have hidden issues.....but I guess I like having a boat more than not. :drink: |
Originally Posted by mgh
(Post 3560073)
how about 13 more. make it an even 40k. since urs is worth more than the 1998 and the 2000, since it does have hydraulic steering and all ;)
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Originally Posted by tinman565
(Post 3560050)
If I only knew what ? lol. Your already SHOWING us the hand you were dealt. Your a bum looking for a $50k boat for $4000. You probably re-use teabags, smoke cigarette butts you find in the street, and live in your parents house. You dig thru the Salvation Army dumpster at night, and eat at the $3 buffets. You use regular soap to wash your hair (what little you have left) because your too cheap to buy shampoo. You've been darning your own socks since your mom died, and eating Ramen noodles for 6 years straight. Tell ya what...EVERYBODY on here is gonna wait and see what you end up with. Oh, these guys will be keeping a sharp eye out for the deal of the century you end up with. Thats for sure. You better make it good sir....lol. :drink:
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Originally Posted by mgh
(Post 3560065)
Was that over your head. Do you wear a bandana when you pilot your boat as well. Matching bandana's between you and Mr. Tinman.
Billy bada$$'s right here. WATCH OUT folks.
Originally Posted by mgh
(Post 3560086)
alright folks. it was fun. if anyone takes offense to any of this, sorry for you, time to grow up, pull your head out of your a$$. and about meeting up and all this and that...like i said, most people with bandanas are bada$$, so i steer clear :)
maybe this summer ill invest in a bandana so i can look real hard on my 22 four winns open bow, hope a bank can lend out the money given the hand i was dealt;) bunch of soap opera No offence taken. All in fun right? When I wake up tomorrow you will still think I'm the coolest and you will still be boatless...:drink: |
Originally Posted by Stormrider
(Post 3559699)
We are all always looking. Just some of us are more tire kickers than others.
mgh, you need to travel to get one of these panteras. you will really be limiting yourself by only looking in your state. If you really must only buy local, you should look for a formula or fountain; you'll have better luck w/ a brand that's in greater supply. And for all the 'steal' hunters, a brand of limited supply will not yield the greatest deals. Also, you get what you pay for! dru...sorry this turned your thread into a sh!tfest.
Originally Posted by mgh
(Post 3559770)
why should this one sell near 39k?? :eek:
two recent 28s in great shape were sold for low to mid 20k's, facts are the facts. Thirsty Turtle's, i mean Bullet88s boat is a nice one. But to get it's drive train up to where dru's boat is will take $$, or he may not even want to... or he can take his time. (Quick math: upgrade 502s to 550hp: $4000ea+$3000ea exhuast, Upgrade to imco internals on B1s($2000ea) Fully Hyd Steering: $4000... and those $s are conservative, ask AR15... who does his work himself. But some may not like the red interior of dru's boat (subjective)... $3000-5000 for an all white reskin? Wetsand the hull to get full white ($1500?). And no offense to Bullet 88, but the best deals are going overseas... and Ziemers 24, for 18k was a f'n steal. You all can compare boats all you want by looking at ads, or comparing notes on these forums, but you have to KNOW what it takes to get a boat where it is. So mgh had a good line and a good price on an AT. They make a great boat... BUT why do you think the price was so good? Cause it NEEDED a new transom! So you gave up? A transom should only cost $3000-5000 to fix properly. Why doesn't someone buy that cheap ass 28 in texas and drop a pair of ilmors w/ indy drives and have PPI do the interior, and have Mel Riggs finish rigging it... Hull $3000 Engines Drives Interior Rigging $125k. oops... don't forget to check for moisture... or it will all come apart on your first ride and be at the bottom of the lake. So, throw in $8000 to get the stringers and bulkheads and transom done properly. Now just ad $20k for a killer paint job. Oh, and... Cosmetics are cheap compared to hardware! EVERYTIME! |
Originally Posted by 88bullet
(Post 3560092)
i like my nice clean mercury powered pantera. i already bought my swim platform. 2 more sets of props to play with, new exhaust and im working the deal on whipples. whats another 2k for steering. the nice thing is that it in MY garage. nice and clean and warm. it will make a appearance in a few months
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Oh, here is a good comparison for dru's boat.
Some of you may remember this one... HA! http://www.ablboats.com/78523 |
i think barbara needs her head examined
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Originally Posted by POWERPLAY J
(Post 3560094)
No offence taken. All in fun right? When I wake up tomorrow you will still think I'm the coolest and you will still be boatless...:drink:
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Originally Posted by Stormrider
(Post 3560095)
GREAT POST ROB!!!!
dru...sorry this turned your thread into a sh!tfest. Hmmmm... a single 1995 28 that has been passed down more than i like to think... and hasn't been updated since hotduck had it? I don't think Griff did much to it, except enjoy it. Thirsty Turtle's, i mean Bullet88s boat is a nice one. But to get it's drive train up to where dru's boat is will take $$, or he may not even want to... or he can take his time. (Quick math: upgrade 502s to 550hp: $4000ea+$3000ea exhuast, Upgrade to imco internals on B1s($2000ea) Fully Hyd Steering: $4000... and those $s are conservative, ask AR15... who does his work himself. But some may not like the red interior of dru's boat (subjective)... $3000-5000 for an all white reskin? Wetsand the hull to get full white ($1500?). And no offense to Bullet 88, but the best deals are going overseas... and Ziemers 24, for 18k was a f'n steal. You all can compare boats all you want by looking at ads, or comparing notes on these forums, but you have to KNOW what it takes to get a boat where it is. So mgh had a good line and a good price on an AT. They make a great boat... BUT why do you think the price was so good? Cause it NEEDED a new transom! So you gave up? A transom should only cost $3000-5000 to fix properly. Why doesn't someone buy that cheap ass 28 in texas and drop a pair of ilmors w/ indy drives and have PPI do the interior, and have Mel Riggs finish rigging it... Hull $3000 Engines Drives Interior Rigging $125k. oops... don't forget to check for moisture... or it will all come apart on your first ride and be at the bottom of the lake. So, throw in $8000 to get the stringers and bulkheads and transom done properly. Now just ad $20k for a killer paint job. Oh, and... Cosmetics are cheap compared to hardware! EVERYTIME! |
Originally Posted by Stormrider
(Post 3560097)
Oh, here is a good comparison for dru's boat.
Some of you may remember this one... HA! http://www.ablboats.com/78523 PPJ.... I really dont like being called a tire kicker. Fact of the matter im waiting for the one. The one includes. Black 28, MikesB4 Single race, The 3a early 2000 in FL, OPA's 3man(which im close friends with and he will never sell for even 50K+), And just about any other 28 Pantera race boat. I would consider the 24 Army boat but... i would rather have a 28 all day long. I have been shopping for the right one. And When it comes to "the deal" Cash is king. So ill save up my cash and wait. I dont recall ever getting into a pissing match about whats a boat is worth with a seller. I have some irons in the fire as well, well i think only one now. In my mind now, why comprise on what i really want. Save up and but what i really want. A good deal is when both the seller and buyer are happy. |
Originally Posted by tinman565
(Post 3560112)
Perfect. :drink:
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I must say, this thread has been the most entertaining on here in quite a while lol.
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it exploded!!!! I LOVE IT
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Originally Posted by fantastixvoyage
(Post 3559965)
And looking better already! That is going to be one badass 24! Let me know if I can help at all with power or anything. Gonna be great to see it back out there. I'd swap the front ballast tank for another fuel tank and run the Aronow race around LI next year.
And Snyder vs Granmole?! I'd still vote for Snyder over that nit wit any day!!!! Ballast tank staying, got two bolsters for it, bridging the gap between them with a jump seat and have a 25 gal aux fuel tank that'll be mounted under the jump seat. DRU.... Apologies on hi jacking the thread.... Re post all the info while the threads hot..... And ill keep the nonsense to a minimum.:lolhit: |
good luck with the sale! it is a very nice boat. someone will appreciate it and grab it. i put mine on ebay. it gave it great advertisement and i ultimately ended up selling it from a contact on there. worth the 9 bucks. i had over 3k views and 120 watchers when i sold mine. alot more then the couple guys eternally looking on here
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(yawn)...now I'm bored. :rolleyes:
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It was much more fun a few hours ago. Look at the bright side. It is just the beginning of winter... :gfight:
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MGH had to get off the computer and erase the history before his mother got home from work
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Pretty funny stuff. Man,... he couldn't shut his trap.
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This thread might have set a record. What did it get 10 pages in a few hours. It got more views and replies than the uncensored section with a hot blonde with big titties!
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Man, I read like 10 pages...it really got exciting around here! By the way, my 1981 24 is for sale for 50K:lolhit:
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Well it is definitely winter in OSO. Looks like mgh will be the offseason entertainment this year....what a douche.
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Originally Posted by no limits
(Post 3560296)
Man, I read like 10 pages...it really got exciting around here! By the way, my 1981 24 is for sale for 50K:lolhit:
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Originally Posted by jdub
(Post 3560300)
Well it is definitely winter in OSO. Looks like mgh will be the offseason entertainment this year....what a douche.
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Originally Posted by Stormrider
(Post 3560095)
And no offense to Bullet 88, but the best deals are going overseas... and Ziemers 24, for 18k was a f'n steal.
Actually, it was a touch under $20k, and it will be on it's way to the Jax Port before the end of the week. None of these cheap ass American's wanted to step up and buy a nice boat, so it's going across the pond. :evilb: I will be Pantera-less soon, and left to be a pad-v driving fool. Got a big one and a little one... |
Originally Posted by ar15meister
(Post 3559857)
buddy....lol. they are going to crucify you in here! I think alot of guys who own boats and pay to fix/run/operate them find it a bit insulting when people who dont own a boat talk like experts on value and cost.
Not to stir the pot but 'great shape' is a relative term......my boat is in pretty good shape and it is still a money pit. And just asking.... why didnt you buy one of the 25k boats? holding out for them to drop to 10grand? blow up the 700hp motor you will need to make one of these run respectably fast and see what it costs to fix it. I spent 30 grand on mine in the last 3 years. Brand new transom assembly, props, completely rebuilt 675HP motor, carbs, completely rebuilt drive, bilge redone, etc. Unless you want to run a slow assed pantera you have to spend money. But what do I know........I want a skater but for now I will only run what I can afford to break. Thats why I drive a Z06 instead of an F430......and a Pantera instead of a Skater. http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w...boating030.jpg |
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ar15 wanna trade???
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Originally Posted by 88bullet
(Post 3560303)
Dragging it home part 3 coming soon I will take it lol. A guy in my area has a 79 or 80 super cool boats! I wonder how vintage chromeoly is doing with his. Got pics of your 81?
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Originally Posted by 88bullet
(Post 3560329)
ar15 wanna trade???
I would sell the summer turbo AWD syclone truck, pro street chevelle, car trailer, car hoist, snowmobile, 4 snomobile place trailer, and rent out a room to some random person to have a change to buy AR15's boat. Thats the only boat i would give all my toys up for to own. Congrats AR15.. |
Everything is for sale my friend .... Eventually I will have to sell this one to upgrade to a 36
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Originally Posted by slpcamaross97
(Post 3560378)
You just sold your single....
I would sell the summer turbo AWD syclone truck, pro street chevelle, car trailer, car hoist, snowmobile, 4 snomobile place trailer, and rent out a room to some random person to have a change to buy AR15's boat. Thats the only boat i would give all my toys up for to own. Congrats AR15.. Sorry man, had to do it. Good luck in your ongoing search. |
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I'm the only guy in my group of friends to have all my chit. But I turned down a offer of 8500 for the truck, chevelle is the my land offshore.
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About time the off season bsing started.... Love this site.
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Originally Posted by slpcamaross97
(Post 3560448)
I'm the only guy in my group of friends to have all my chit. But I turned down a offer of 8500 for the truck, chevelle is the my land offshore.
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this thread should be retitled to " general discussion"
88, that twin sits "Nasty" in the water Someone please start a thread about your winter project with a ton a pics :lolhit: PS: i'll start one soon:drink: |
that pic was from the sunday afternoon after getting a couple hours of sleep from the trip. it was 40 deg and 4 footers when i got out of the harbor. fun first ride for sure!!!
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It does look bad a$$ sitting in the water. Dig the all white...
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