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Full Throttle 525 07-09-2004 10:07 AM

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Hey Guys..

I'll post some pics later. Check out JO's thread

Ron

Thanks to all

Full Throttle 525 07-10-2004 03:29 PM

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Hey Guys:

I finally have some time to respond regarding my sea trial on Thursday.

My idling problem was fixed with just a change of a part. The engine is very strong and just purrs like a kitten. One thing that I really liked about the engine compartment was that the mechanic could really get in there and move around with little problem.

The boat with a single is very well balanced and just loves to dig into those corners and hold that turn. No skipping, as you probably would get with steps.

The lowering of the floor for the driver and passenger puts you deeper in the boat and the padding under it is easier on the back.

I also like the way the name of the boat is placed the deck.

We took pictures at this private island that had it's own exclusive 18 hole golf course. If you look closely at the pictures you can make the green out. We were in a bit of a rush, didn't want security to give us any trouble. But the backdrop for the pics was just perfect.

I'm really happy with the way the flag seems to fall into the water.

All in all it was a great day and I was really beaming with joy. The finishing touches should be completed by the beginning of the week and Barbie should be transporting Full Throttle to Connecticut on Wednesday is all goes as planned.

Thanks again JO, Pepe, Linda & Barbie.

Ron Lombard

Stormrider 07-12-2004 07:43 AM

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Ron, it looks great. Is the bow the only place where you have the name of the boat?

Full Throttle 525 07-12-2004 08:03 AM

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Hey Storm:

Thanks. Yes, the bow is the only spot. BTW..I'm hoping to finally get to put my pillows in the water this week, just waiting for JO to let me know when Full Throttle is on it's way to Connecticut. I have had the frame in, but didn't want to get the pillows all full of crap. How long do you think it would take to get the pillows together? Do you think I need to get wet? Maybe we can get to boat together soon.

Ron

Stormrider 07-12-2004 08:23 AM

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Ron, you'll need a full day to get the rest of it together.
You will need a work boat or a floating dock to tie off the rear pillow to
the frame, otherwise you'll need to jump in.
Try to inflate the internal chambers to approx 6".
Also, bring a vacuum with you, just incase you overinflate, you'll need
to suck out the air.
Don't rush, and you can always give me a call if you need help.

And it'd be great to meet up with you. I was out last night and there were alot of HP boats running. A 47 fountain, 29 scarab, and 42 cig tiger.
It's nice to see other guys tearing it up.

See ya out there!

Full Throttle 525 07-12-2004 12:17 PM

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Hey Storm:

Thanks for the info. I'll probably use the tender from the marina. Don't want to get wet yet!! Will call if I have any problems.

Thanks,

Ron

CasinoRunner 07-12-2004 12:29 PM

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Congratulations on the new boat Ron. :)

Full Throttle 525 07-12-2004 12:30 PM

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Hey WildThing:

I haven't heard anything from the factory since I was there Thursday, so I haven't made any arrangements with Barbie as of yet. I was supposed to have the trailer registered but the lines at the DMV were really long. Hoping to get to it tomorrow.

The only problem that we had during the sea trial was that the water pickup line that feeds the back of the speedometer had come off and we didn't have the tools necessary to affix it properly. Initially the water had sprayed underneath the dash and caused a minor short. The engine, in order to protect itself by virtue of the computer, cut the power to the engine. As a result we couldn't run too fast, but I imagine that JO has fixed that by now.

I'm hoping to have the boat here in Connecticut by the end of this week.

Ron

Full Throttle 525 07-15-2004 04:12 PM

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Hey Guys:

I'm just waiting for someone at the factory to let me know if my boat is coming up North.

The trailer is registered, information sent south...waiting..waiting...waiting.
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B-Stubb 07-15-2004 05:54 PM

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Love The Sugar Coating I Always Lick The Sugar Off The Outside First

Full Throttle 525 07-16-2004 09:54 AM

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:D :D :D

Hey Guys:

I heard from the factory and it looks like I'll get my boat for my 50th birthday...

Thank you JO, Pepe, Linda & Barbie

You will really put a smile on my face :D

Ron

JROMY 07-16-2004 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Full Throttle 525
:D :D :D

Hey Guys:

I heard from the factory and it looks like I'll get my boat for my 50th birthday...


Your birthday this year or next...?

B-Stubb 07-16-2004 05:56 PM

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#1 Is Ron running full throtle
#2 Suffering another Disapointment


This is a nationwide poll feel free to vote as many times as needed

B-Stubb 07-16-2004 08:04 PM

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Vote #2 with no phone call or explanation

DOMZ PANTERA 07-17-2004 08:34 AM

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Happy birthday full throttle, sorry to see you without a boat for your b-day. Iam in the same spot i was a year ago still waiting. I cant wait any longer, i have to take legal dept. {AG]. My summer is over.

JROMY 07-17-2004 11:43 AM

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Vote #2 (Happy Birthday Ron)

Full Throttle 525 07-17-2004 11:43 AM

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Thanks Guys:

I wish my day were brighter, but I have my wife, my dog and my health..which are more important.

I've attached a photo of LIS taken around noon today. Just one beautiful day.

Ron

Thanks for all your birthday wishes.

CasinoRunner 07-17-2004 12:50 PM

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Happy B-day Full Throttle! :)

NASCAT 07-17-2004 12:55 PM

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Happy 50th Ron!

LostinBoston 07-17-2004 03:20 PM

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Happy b-day Ron. Sorry to hear about the boat, again.

LostinBoston 07-17-2004 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by DOMZ PANTERA
Happy birthday full throttle, sorry to see you without a boat for your b-day. Iam in the same spot i was a year ago still waiting. I cant wait any longer, i have to take legal dept. {AG]. My summer is over.


Domz,
There is a suit against Pantera in process that hs been goin on for a while.
E-mail me at [email protected]
i think we can help each other out.

B-Stubb 07-17-2004 04:43 PM

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I know what your thinking so HAPY BIRTHDAY is a little vain you can wish it anyway . So what are your plans with your time off now you dont have a boat ???

Full Throttle 525 07-18-2004 02:38 PM

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B Stubb:

I'm going to call the factory in the morning to check on delivery.

Ron

B-Stubb 07-18-2004 03:50 PM

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Looks like the judge will be on a first name basis with them

JROMY 07-19-2004 08:42 AM

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American Express's boat seems to be moving along at a rapid pace. Maybe he can give you some pointers on what it takes to get a boat built? Do you think Pantera just likes him better?

LostinBoston 07-19-2004 01:34 PM

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Maybe American Express did not pay in full up front and will not give them the rest of the money until he takes delivery. That will light a fire under their a$$.

Stormrider 07-19-2004 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by LostinBoston
Maybe American Express did not pay in full up front and will not give them the rest of the money until he takes delivery. That will light a fire under their a$$.

That is pretty much how you should buy a boat... on a payment schedule.
If you do construction to your house, do you give the contractor all the funds up front? If you do, you'll get what you pay for... a workvan leaving skidmarks out your driveway. :eek:

NASCAT 07-19-2004 02:48 PM

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For the record I payed according to Panteras schedule but funded the engine & drive myself since it was custom & after I had already ordered the boat with a Merc 525. it was the least I could do for Pantera allowing me the flexibility to make the change half way thru the building process. no secrets here guys, sorry to burst your bubble!

B-Stubb 07-19-2004 06:33 PM

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Soo how do you get a boat from them????

NASCAT 07-19-2004 07:30 PM

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I ordered it entered into a contract, agreed to a payment schedule, communicated on a regular basis, visited when I could & now my boat is complete! Did it take longer than I expected yes it did but i went from a stock Merc powerplant to a KE which required way more rigging not to mention the more elaborate paint than originally agredd to. So in my case i feel like i contributed to the delayed delivery.

Von Bongo 07-19-2004 08:45 PM

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I should stay out but...

Leave ML alone. He did what he felt he needed to do to get his boat done and I know he put in a lot of effort to that end. Same as I did. For those of you with boats there if you spent $100K for a boat and you think it isn't going the way you want why wouldn't you be in Miami now camped on their step to get it done? Whats $1000 in airfare and hotels compared to the cost of the boat? Or do what I did. I had a surveyor there every 2-3 weeks documenting the boat and the progress. Yes it was slower than I would have liked but it was very well built and in the end I was a happy owner

Ron if your boat is done why are you waiting for Pantera to deliver it? There are dozens of transportation companies get someone to go pick it up and you'd have it in a couple of days. For the $1-$2K it would cost you it would be worth it at this point.

For the rest of you if you have a boat under construction get down there and work it out face to face. Posting stuff isn't going to make it go faster, get your concerns infront of Jo and get a REALISTIC time table for the remaing steps and then make it happen. I think if you read the thread where my boat was built I never had to air any dirty laundry even when we had disagreements I kept those between Jo and I and in the end everyone came out happy.

But what do I know I already sold mine.

NASCAT 07-19-2004 10:03 PM

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VB

I couldn't have said it better myself although I tried but everyone was too focused on the fact my boat was complete rather than the REAL reason why.

ML

Indy 07-21-2004 05:48 AM

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VB...you make some good points, but as evidenced by this thread, FT525 has been to the factory many times to try to work it out with no resolution to his satisfaction.

AE...I'm glad that your business skills have delived a fine product to you before other boats that were started prior to yours. Obviously you don't feel the frustration that the others do as a result, but their feelings are real, so are the expenses incurred as a result.

As far as this thread airing "dirty laundry", it serves a purpose in my mind. I dropped Pantera from consideration as a result of the issues described on this thread. It will also serve a purpose if the next person to order a Pantera from the factory goes in with a contract structured like AE or VB's contracts, those contracts obviously worked well. That type of situation could only be a win-win for the factory and the customer and we can get back to talking about what a fantastic product Pantera is instead of these business issues.

FT525...Although I'm not in the Pantera market anymore, let me know when you get your boat up here, I'd love to see how it handles our challenging Long Island Sound waters. I'm sure the ride will be awesome.

Cig Bullet 07-21-2004 11:53 AM

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What happened w/ your engine did they replace it or what? Something does not sound right mers HP techs would be up there to fix the motor. You just don't through away a new engine unless it is not new? Call Merc and have them stop at the factory and tap into the engines ECU they will tell whats up!

CIG - BULLET

JROMY 07-21-2004 04:32 PM

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Wildthing - Very true. I wish I could just sell people on this building process in commercial construction. For example, I just finished an 18 million dollar project this summer for a client here in CT. If I could have gotten all their money up front, then told them I was on a 5 year delay (which I probably could have milked out to 10 years..??), and then blamed them for not watching me closely enough, I would be the most successful businessman alive just with the interest on their money.


Cig Bullet - Excellent point on FT525s engine. If there is still some problem that is holding up delivery, get Mercury involved. They should have no problem diagnosing the problem.

thedonz 07-21-2004 05:59 PM

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I've learned to NEVER pay completely up front. For some unknown reason, when I have paid up front in good faith, something negative always delay me getting what I purchased. Yet, when I've paid for things on schedule or upon completion, I never seem to have those delays, hmmmmmmmm. What could it be?

B-Stubb 07-21-2004 06:09 PM

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Who said anything about removeing Rons motor ? Is that the plan?

B-Stubb 07-21-2004 06:12 PM

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I would love to see a call to mercury . Paul Harvy said now you know the rest of the story

Von Bongo 07-21-2004 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by WildThing
WOW! Your business negotiating skills must be awesome!
Heck I ‘m just a corporate account sales executive so
I’m not up to date on how to get these hot boats built so fast.
This is what I am learning so far.
Apparently you need highly developed HR skills and a keen business mind.
Most people think this is so simple; that you would lay down $100,000.00 dollars
and get a finished product in return is simply unreasonable thinking!
Oh no, it’s much more complicated than that.
From what I gather, one must do the following things to buy a boat.
1. Lay down obscene amounts of money, just to grease the wheels.
2. Make several calls day & night to assure they are doing their jobs.
3. Fly to the builder several times to assure they are doing their jobs.
4. Make structured, financial payments; an ongoing permanent basis works best.
5. Hire outside people to make sure the builder does his job.
6. Spend obsessive amounts of time & money talking to others with the same issues & problems.
7. Take more vacation time and fly to the builder, to make sure he is doing his job.
8. Talk with an attorney as he will help direct you in a business like way.
9. Beg, beg, & beg. This isn’t business like but it does help some.
10. Rehire the same attorney for a divorce as your wife will have your a**
for spending what she unreasonably deems as our money.
Upside: there is no need to hire anyone to make sure the attorney does his job.

Hey, I never said this was the way a builder should be, just what seems to have worked in the past. And I don't care but never beg :argue: :D

WildThing 07-21-2004 06:38 PM

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If you're going to contact Mercury Marine go straight to the top!
Mercury Marine, P.O. Box 1939, Fond du Lac, Wis., 54936-1939,
W6250 Pioneer Road, Fond du Lac, Wis., 54936-1939

• Patrick “Pat” C. Mackey, (President Of Mercury Marine)

• Phone: 920-929-5000

• Fax: 920-926-2346 (desk of Steve Fleming)

• e-mail address: [email protected]


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