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I was at the Sunsation factory shortly after they received the 38 hull from Dan. One of the first things they did was to cut sections out of the hull sides and graft them onto the opposite sides of the hull. I remember holding up a piece of hull side and being very impressed with the layup and foam coring. One thing often overlooked on Powerplays is the cabin liner. The 38 had one of the nicest cabins in the industry. The mold work for the liners was nicer than some other manufacture's hull and deck molds. I loved all the nice clean gel coat in the cabin as opposed to a stick built/carpeted cabin.
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Originally Posted by Steve 1
(Post 3115207)
I heard Tom Mason has them but the street talk is worse than the internet, I also heard they sat with water in them, a real no no ,tooling gelcoat does not like that, it blisters, shame the barcol readings were in the high 50's on that black mold, I sprayed that on the 4th of July..
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The 33 and smaller molds are dinosaurs without a step bottom. No matter who possesses them they need to be re-done with a step bottom to be competitive in today's market.
Sure a few guys wouldn't care but the majority would and the top speed wouldn't be real impressive without steps. |
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Originally Posted by Knot 4 Me
(Post 3115217)
I was at the Sunsation factory shortly after they received the 38 hull from Dan. One of the first things they did was to cut sections out of the hull sides and graft them onto the opposite sides of the hull. I remember holding up a piece of hull side and being very impressed with the layup and foam coring. One thing often overlooked on Powerplays is the cabin liner. The 38 had one of the nicest cabins in the industry. The mold work for the liners was nicer than some other manufacture's hull and deck molds. I loved all the nice clean gel coat in the cabin as opposed to a stick built/carpeted cabin.
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Originally Posted by Premier Perf
(Post 3115224)
IF they were in good shape i would like to get ahold of them and hire you one day :party-smiley-004:
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Originally Posted by Jupiter Sunsation
(Post 3115228)
The 33 and smaller molds are dinosaurs without a step bottom. No matter who possesses them they need to be re-done with a step bottom to be competitive in today's market.
Sure a few guys wouldn't care but the majority would and the top speed wouldn't be real impressive without steps. |
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I see your at it again pretty good today to huh Steve? . . . Should i send ya over a pizza or something around noon? . . . :D
Hey quick question about the 33's. I see the race layout is a full stagger. How does that affect the handling over a standard side by side. I have heard staggering does not have the same affect on boats under 35 feet or so. I was considering staggering my 34 Scarab because there enough room (or room can be made) but was told it doesnt really do much for a boat that size. Heck if nothing else it would be easier to work on :cool: Those 38's are bad azz, I'm sure they are prized possessions. |
Originally Posted by Steve 1
(Post 3115235)
If Danny was still building them it would be unchanged, started life as a blue water raceboat.
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Originally Posted by glassdave
(Post 3115241)
I see your at it again pretty good today to huh Steve? . . . Should i send ya over a pizza or something around noon? . . . :D
Hey quick question about the 33's. I see the race layout is a full stagger. How does that affect the handling over a standard side by side. I have heard staggering does not have the same affect on boats under 35 feet or so. I was considering staggering my 34 Scarab because there enough room (or room can be made) but was told it doesnt really do much for a boat that size. Heck if nothing else it would be easier to work on :cool: Those 38 are bad azz, I'm sure they are prized possessions. |
Originally Posted by Jassman
(Post 3115244)
So whos going to be building the next one..or version of one......
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I saw the 38' mold at Performance Marine a few weeks ago.
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Originally Posted by cowisl
(Post 3115257)
I saw the 38' mold at Performance Marine a few weeks ago.
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Originally Posted by cowisl
(Post 3115257)
I saw the 38' mold at Performance Marine a few weeks ago.
http://i48.tinypic.com/jg169x.jpg |
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Originally Posted by Steve 1
(Post 3115259)
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Originally Posted by Jupiter Sunsation
(Post 3115274)
Was that Jromy's 525 powered boat that got stolen/stripped last year? If so, I don't remember if it ever got reassembled or not.....
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Originally Posted by Steve 1
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Originally Posted by Steve 1
(Post 3115235)
If Danny was still building them it would be unchanged, started life as a blue water raceboat.
They are so light, no steps needet !!!! They perform so well, no steps needet !!!! U only need steps if u can improve something, on a 28-33 PP , not needet !! |
Originally Posted by Ted G
(Post 3115296)
Steve, you'll be happy to know that it looks as good now as when it was built. It has big power and Konrads now, and runs sweet. The 38 is a favorite of mine, maybe one day....
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For those of you that don't recognize the paint scheme it was a copy of the Playboy 35 Cigarette. My buddy liked the paint and did the boat in 03, two years after the Cig premiered. Nick liked it but didn't want to copy Oliver's so he specified Navy. There was a guy in North Palm that had a 35 Playboy and this Powerplay was huge compared to the Cig (and faster)! To be fair the Cig had 500's and the PP had 525's.... |
Originally Posted by DareDevil
(Post 3115298)
I agree, and i don't think they would really be that much faster with steps or a step !
They are so light, no steps needet !!!! They perform so well, no steps needet !!!! U only need steps if u can improve something, on a 28-33 PP , not needet !! |
Originally Posted by Jupiter Sunsation
(Post 3115301)
I think that is the first shot of the blue 38 I have ever seen posted online! This is the boat that has been re-rigged with 700/NXT's.
For those of you that don't recognize the paint scheme it was a copy of the Playboy 35 Cigarette. My buddy liked the paint and did the boat in 03, two years after the Cig premiered. Nick liked it but didn't want to copy Oliver's so he specified Navy. There was a guy in North Palm that had a 35 Playboy and this Powerplay was huge compared to the Cig (and faster)! To be fair the Cig had 500's and the PP had 525's.... |
Yanmar Arneson Boat this picture is in the Arneson brochure and my favorite 38.
http://i48.tinypic.com/2nvedc5.jpg |
Originally Posted by DareDevil
(Post 3115298)
I agree, and i don't think they would really be that much faster with steps or a step !
They are so light, no steps needet !!!! They perform so well, no steps needet !!!! U only need steps if u can improve something, on a 28-33 PP , not needet !! Epic is working on the 38..waiting for that to get started..hopefully soon. |
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Originally Posted by Jassman
(Post 3115319)
It depends on what or why you think they do or do not need steps.. Like Jupiter stated in todays economy..for speed..steps sell and like many boats on this board like Fountain, AT..etc...a step equates to an approx 10%+ increase in performance..is it needed on the PP if the hulls ever came out again.. I say yes.. the 33 as well, same situation..and while your at it do the 28..heck..I might as well open a boat co..cause it's so profitable..:grinser010:
Epic is working on the 38..waiting for that to get started..hopefully soon. |
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Originally Posted by Steve 1
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Originally Posted by Steve 1
(Post 3115260)
Was the deck mold with it?
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