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DENNYB 03-01-2009 06:23 PM

Off Site
 

Originally Posted by 800XCR (Post 2811493)
There's an email going around saying there will be a boat completed on March 7, 2009.

Not there.
I was at the grocery store on Saturday and met a couple of former Powerquest employees.We had a long conversation and they mentioned that an old customer heard about the situation at Powerquest and got wind of an unfinished 32 PQ Cruiser inside the plant out of the mold in pieces.So the customer got a hold of Phil swung a deal hauled it out to an off site location. ( This is what was said). The customer asked a couple of former PQ workers if they would be interested if I purchased the pieces and if you guys would build the rest of the boat. They agreed for the customer. This is what you might have heard some new 2005 32 cruiser was being finished on March 7th but not at Powerquest.

pq man 03-01-2009 08:43 PM

Where's the 38 that they were building ?

800XCR 03-01-2009 09:28 PM


Originally Posted by DENNYB (Post 2811575)
Not there.
I was at the grocery store on Saturday and met a couple of former Powerquest employees.We had a long conversation and they mentioned that an old customer heard about the situation at Powerquest and got wind of an unfinished 32 PQ Cruiser inside the plant out of the mold in pieces.So the customer got a hold of Phil swung a deal hauled it out to an off site location. ( This is what was said). The customer asked a couple of former PQ workers if they would be interested if I purchased the pieces and if you guys would build the rest of the boat. They agreed for the customer. This is what you might have heard some new 2005 32 cruiser was being finished on March 7th but not at Powerquest.

That would be the boat - but the email doesn't indicate where or who. - The pics show it with 6.2's.

DENNYB 03-02-2009 08:13 AM

38
 

Originally Posted by pq man (Post 2811690)
Where's the 38 that they were building ?

Still sitting inside in pieces for over a year.

spazboz 03-03-2009 10:03 AM

Yup!
 

Originally Posted by DENNYB (Post 2811887)
Still sitting inside in pieces for over a year.


The 38 is out of the mold, been for a while. As of the last time I was there, it still sits next to one of the old 38's. Neither have an upper deck laminated to them, and no power. Cabin's are unfinished, little interior.

hp500efi 03-03-2009 03:43 PM

what a shame. . . always enjoyed talking to Mandi and Denny when you were still there and at boat shows. PQ was a heck of a boat from the small town of Holland. Took the tour there many years ago and they always opened up to the customer.

DENNYB 03-03-2009 04:08 PM

Good Times will never be forgotten with customers turned into friends.
 

Originally Posted by hp500efi (Post 2813170)
what a shame. . . always enjoyed talking to Mandi and Denny when you were still there and at boat shows. PQ was a heck of a boat from the small town of Holland. Took the tour there many years ago and they always opened up to the customer.

Thank you. Always enjoyed your visits at the PQ factory and spending time with you at the shows. I am still around.

boatnt 03-03-2009 05:25 PM


Originally Posted by DENNYB (Post 2813192)
Thank you. Always enjoyed your visits at the PQ factory and spending time with you at the shows. I am still around.

what do you think is next for PQ???

DENNYB 03-03-2009 06:08 PM

The good days at 112th.
 

Originally Posted by boatnt (Post 2813247)
what do you think is next for PQ???

Its all up in the air boatnt .All I can see and say that everyone's gone.
The good days have disappeared and all we have are memories when that building on a 112th was rockin with affordable go fast.
I remember when we began custom painted graphics and a new step bottom 28, 34, and 38. Even with eighty employees,it took anywhere from three to six months to get a boat because of the high number of customer sold ordered boats and the PQ dealers not having enough in stock inventory to sell. The dealers were SCREAMING FOR BOATS AT US.
Our dealers were completely sold out of Powerquests during the peak selling season..Those days will be missed.

johnny b good 03-03-2009 07:33 PM

Well I would still like to remain optimistic, after all nothing stays bad forever just like nothing stays good forever. As long as there is water to boat on and the wacko liberals don't try to ban boating in hopes of saving the planet, there will always be a demand for a quality built affordable performance boat. Who's to say they cant come back in some way when things get better? They still have one thing going for them which is brand recognition and loyal followers, all they need now is time for the current economic climate to change. As long as someone still owns the Powerquest as a business they could bring it back anytime.

Mentalpause 03-04-2009 06:08 PM


Originally Posted by johnny b good (Post 2813395)
there will always be a demand for a quality built affordable performance boat.

There in might lie the problem, even if the economy starts to recover. AFFORDABLE and PERFORMANCE BOATS is pretty much an oxymoron these days.

I personally believe a major price correction will have to occur in the performance boat industry if it is to ever recover to the levels enjoyed from around 96 to 2006. That price correction is starting in the used market, but has not made it to the new boat market. We see tons of complaints about the value of our used boats - thinking things will return to where they were a few years ago. I personally will not hold my breath. I don't think it is going to happen.

Same will be true for the economic recovery, particularly the stock market. People will have to start trusting business leadership again for a full recovery. With all the crap coming to light these days, not sure anyone will be trusting business for awhile. It will take a long time to restore integrity.

Not trying to be doom and gloom. I just think the last 5-6 years of tons of people getting into the performance market may have been the aberation. These times may be more normal going forward than we think.

speed demon 03-04-2009 10:47 PM

Based on a few brief conversations I had with the new owners and management I don't think PQ was interested in being affordable. They basically told be they weren't interested in building anything under 30 feet or any single engine boats. I was expecting at least a 25% increase in pricing. They were throwing around all the BIG name performance manufactures as if that is were they wanted to play.

johnny b good 03-05-2009 06:44 AM


Originally Posted by Mentalpause (Post 2814197)
There in might lie the problem, even if the economy starts to recover. AFFORDABLE and PERFORMANCE BOATS is pretty much an oxymoron these days.

I personally believe a major price correction will have to occur in the performance boat industry if it is to ever recover to the levels enjoyed from around 96 to 2006. That price correction is starting in the used market, but has not made it to the new boat market. We see tons of complaints about the value of our used boats - thinking things will return to where they were a few years ago. I personally will not hold my breath. I don't think it is going to happen.

Same will be true for the economic recovery, particularly the stock market. People will have to start trusting business leadership again for a full recovery. With all the crap coming to light these days, not sure anyone will be trusting business for awhile. It will take a long time to restore integrity.

Not trying to be doom and gloom. I just think the last 5-6 years of tons of people getting into the performance market may have been the aberation. These times may be more normal going forward than we think.

Time will tell, but I agree with your statements.

NKissau 06-01-2009 09:59 AM

:bsflag::party-smiley-004:

DENNYB 06-01-2009 11:01 AM

Come on now.

MK 06-01-2009 01:02 PM

Maybe the elves are busy building boats inside, much to our dismay...

When they are done with the latest boat order, they can get the combines and bale the hay that is growing on the lawn.

That is, after they repair the mail box from so much mail hanging out of it that the post breaks off.

Fast Forward 06-01-2009 06:05 PM

Maybe that’s not hay and it's some new genetically engineered green environmentally friendly matting fiber that’s going to cut the weight in half? Phil might be thinking green??

ebendrey 06-16-2009 12:02 PM


Originally Posted by MK (Post 2877580)
Maybe the elves are busy building boats inside, much to our dismay...

When they are done with the latest boat order, they can get the combines and bale the hay that is growing on the lawn.

That is, after they repair the mail box from so much mail hanging out of it that the post breaks off.


That's funny

Insolvent 07-31-2009 08:37 PM

Powerquest was foreclosed upon today. The real estate entity, ZP-Michigan Properties, LLC and PQ Holdings appear to have been cross collateralized. The amount of the default posted on doors is somewhere in the neighborhood of 2.8M.

enticer 07-31-2009 08:38 PM

no good news....
but thanks for the heads up

Mentalpause 07-31-2009 09:19 PM

Also not a surprise. Boat companies that were healthy a couple years ago are getting closer to this state monthly. So if you haven't produced or sold anything for 3-4 years, this is to be expected in our current economy. Timing really sucked on this deal.

boatnt 08-01-2009 08:06 AM

Yep that does sucks!
Rumor has it that Sunsation has also layed off all their workers because of no boat orders and are closed for now.
hopefully it all works out for them!

hopefully the information I got is correct and I'm not starting any false rumors.

Insolvent 08-01-2009 05:38 PM


Originally Posted by Mentalpause (Post 2922575)
Also not a surprise. Boat companies that were healthy a couple years ago are getting closer to this state monthly. So if you haven't produced or sold anything for 3-4 years, this is to be expected in our current economy. Timing really sucked on this deal.

The deal may have been untimely, however, in Phil's case the experience required to build a boat and lead a business were mutually exclusive.

Fast Forward 08-02-2009 08:01 AM

I wonder if the bank will liquidate via public auction? I had left several messages to pic up a few things but never would get a return phone call. Really to bad but we all knew it was coming.

MK 08-02-2009 08:37 PM

Does it say on the notice who the bank or financial institution is?

Insolvent 08-02-2009 09:34 PM


Originally Posted by MK (Post 2923433)
Does it say on the notice who the bank or financial institution is?

I'll try to post a picture of the notice tomorrow. The creditor is a bank in Indiana if I recall correctly.

Insolvent 08-03-2009 02:10 PM

http://img34.imageshack.us/img34/2963/pq1l.jpghttp://img34.imageshack.us/img34/pq1l.jpg/1/w1600.png

http://img8.imageshack.us/img8/9500/pq2m.jpghttp://img8.imageshack.us/img8/pq2m.jpg/1/w1600.png

Tborisch 08-03-2009 02:57 PM

So, the actual debt numbers are real.. Thats a shame, it's just the tip of the iceburg.

Phil's disaster path looks like a catagory 5 tornado.

RIP Powerquest.

Tom

PS- Jamie, this is my user name :)

Tborisch 08-03-2009 02:59 PM


Originally Posted by Insolvent (Post 2922556)
Powerquest was foreclosed upon today. The real estate entity, ZP-Michigan Properties, LLC and PQ Holdings appear to have been cross collateralized. The amount of the default posted on doors is somewhere in the neighborhood of 2.8M.

Don, Is this you?

Tom

Insolvent 08-06-2009 04:28 PM

The facility was officially seized today. Several police officials and locksmiths were on the premises.

Fast Forward 08-06-2009 08:00 PM

Looks like the fat lady will finally get to sing. To bad but we all knew it was coming.

Looks like they had a 1st and 2nd mgt. Based on what I can see this is strickley a foreclosure on the real estate not the business or personal property/ assets.

MK 08-06-2009 08:19 PM

That property was not purchased for 2.8m so it has to be the business too.

AngerMgmt 08-06-2009 08:20 PM

Sad Indeed!!!!

jmackin 08-06-2009 09:25 PM

anyone know what Kevin H. is doing these days?

MK 08-06-2009 09:46 PM


Originally Posted by jmackin (Post 2926906)
anyone know what Kevin H. is doing these days?

Here you go:
http://www.nuvescor.com/OurCompany/T...9/Default.aspx

He looked at buying back PQ a few years ago but Jack Moll wanted way too much for what was left of the company.

It's a shame to see the place run down like it is.
10 years ago we could not build 'em fast enough to keep up with demand.

boatme 08-06-2009 10:51 PM

MK are you Mike ?

MK 08-06-2009 10:56 PM


Originally Posted by boatme (Post 2926979)
MK are you Mike ?

No - Marc Keizer

Fast Forward 08-07-2009 08:35 AM

Maybe Kevin would like to give PQ a shot again?? Looks like bringing them back to life is right up his alley.

DENNYB 08-07-2009 11:57 AM


Originally Posted by Fast Forward (Post 2927143)
Maybe Kevin would like to give PQ a shot again?? Looks like bringing them back to life is right up his alley.

Mk and I don't think so.

boatnt 08-07-2009 04:36 PM


Originally Posted by DENNYB (Post 2927327)
Mk and I don't think so.

I know 10 years ago PQ was building alot of boats.with that been said,the economy took a turn for the worse,Kevin got out at the perfect time,I dont know that we could blame all this on Jack or Phil,wander how many boats Kevin and the old crew would be building today?I bet less than 10 years ago.


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