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https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...bd304d2dd0.jpg Got 2 layers of 1700 down around the perimeter of the port floor. just slowed down and put 3 tblspn of cabosil per 16 oz of resin just enough so it wets out fast but is more stickier, just like i was told to do. Another tblspn or 2 per 16 oz maybe would've been better but its all good. Not a problem but aggravating, to finish the floor im going to tear up and use mat since all the 1700 is needed on other stuff and i cut the material for the starboard side to make the tabbing used today. so both sides will be tabbed all around with 1700, and mat in the field, not what was planned but gotta own the mistake i made. |
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Swim platform and rear seat edges done, everythings nice and flat. 1st coat of gel on front seat mold.
Not a real mold, its one of my easybake oven jobs. gel is waxed, have gray tint for next coat, hopefully that will help for finish sanding and layup. mixed a qaurt pouerd in on and bulked up edges, looks like its drying. another couple projects and the shop floor will be all glassed and gelled over https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...475bd12b5c.jpg |
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Seat plug is ready for wax, very little gray gel ghosted thru so theres enough gel left on it that someone who knows what they're doing could really make it nice. https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...89e1158e46.jpg https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...2da3535035.jpg Boarded it down with 600 - 800 & 1000 all at once, saved alot of time |
No takers on the above post huh ?
another day of 36 & 80 on both the 7 & 4 inch grinder and it'll be ready for tuffcoat and gel. but i need some time away from it. https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...d99fa51aaf.jpg https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...56eafe4999.jpg https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...97d0f8a020.jpg https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...b5d69fc88a.jpg https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...4a3e10bec0.jpg |
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Lookin' real good ! As far as your balsa cored pieces are concerned , does the finish weight surprise you ?
I still can't get over the weight of a hatch I had made some years back with balsa core. The damn thing must have sucked up 100 gallons of resin , but it is near indestructible though. To be honest IMO any resin saturated wood cores when glassed well are pretty heavy . |
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it weighs 11 pounds. approx template size is 18 x 53 1/2, the seat after trimming is 17 1/2 x 52 4 layers 1708, 1 layer 1-1/2 mat, 1/4 core. 138 ounces of resin poured, 116-120 ounces made it into the layup, that includes what got trimmed off. if there is a formula that tells me the exact volumes and end weight i prolly wouldn't understand it, because, well my cyphering says to not ruin your shoes just don't wear none dummy !! https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...1491131dfa.jpg |
found out if you put 32 ounces of gel in a cup it squirts out when the lid goes on, so figured out approx 30 1/2 ounces plus tint and activator doesn't leak and spill all over, marked all my cups, poured the gel, measured the tint in a srynge and had no issues.
if i put money down i woulda lost, never thought this was gonna go off as nice as it did. wore a tyvek suit and mask so no gel all over me and my bare feet. better pics in a day or so https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...43224a1ee1.jpg https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...befe416357.jpg https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...bbe357ed14.jpg |
Originally Posted by outonsafari
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it weighs 11 pounds. approx template size is 18 x 53 1/2, the seat after trimming is 17 1/2 x 52 4 layers 1708, 1 layer 1-1/2 mat, 1/4 core. 138 ounces of resin poured, 116-120 ounces made it into the layup, that includes what got trimmed off. if there is a formula that tells me the exact volumes and end weight i prolly wouldn't understand it, because, well my cyphering says to not ruin your shoes just don't wear none dummy !! https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...1491131dfa.jpg |
No glass, its gelcoat and grass clippings, after some acetone and a scotchbrite my feet were all exfoliated and silky smooth
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Gelcoat on hold this weekend
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Coming along very nicely . You do know that you're going to have the most expensive ski boat in the western hemisphere when your finished , eh ? :D
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Originally Posted by madbouyz
(Post 4768220)
Coming along very nicely . You do know that you're going to have the most expensive ski boat in the western hemisphere when your finished , eh ? :D
it should be in the water this spring and is turning out to be good practice and learning for the next project !!! |
it's looking very nice thanks for taking the time to share.
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Looking fantastic! Thank you for posting your progress.
For fairing compound I have used vinyl-ester resin mixed with microballons, it makes a very light sandable mix that does not clog up paper |
Thanks, yeah i like that sandable stuff. Reason i went gel was to expose all the imperfections, using thickened gel as filler should pay off in the end because the box is 16-18 sq ft approx so 1 qaurt covered it. After the touch up i'll spray on another qaurt, since its all round, curved and so on if i sand thru while boarding it wont expose filler and need to be re shot.
got the gas tank in today, temperature dictates what happens day by day now and curse the bad luck, dog box wont fit in the house or i could be sanding and filling right now |
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final shape on dogbox hatch and flush hinges installed https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...636c5dd486.jpg Gap looks pretty good all around https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...baf425e75a.jpg Front and rear hatches got ground down underneath, bedded down on glass, doweled and glassed over. It'll look better this way, and she needs all the fit finish help it can get https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...9982ea1232.jpg https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...1c8d34aade.jpg https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...08985c1eb7.jpg More than enough room to access the shaft log and packing gland https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...5d8008d2ea.jpg https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...94f386c9ac.jpg https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...f4aaa64cc2.jpg Cut the back off the seat frames. Sent them out to class6 (oso member). He tig welded them together beautifully. He can fab and weld anything, his beads are artwork, look him up if you need something repaired or custom built. Big thanks Dan ! |
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Bought this 8 years ago, used to sit next to the Skater in the garage, sold the Skater still have this thing.....The kids love it, so simple to maintain. Best money I've ever spent on a boat! Your project looks awesome!! |
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Adjust forward and back https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...05f3c53f45.jpg https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...66e4541ad1.jpg https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...72ad7dddd4.jpg https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...250a21474d.jpg Passenger seat 180 to observe skier https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...7a8d741a25.jpg Looks like driver will clear to 180 as well. Wont mount till steering wheel is back in to make sure it can. https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...67956c3d5e.jpg Ahh lounging with beer cooler center console |
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Final grind on interior hullsides and floor. Initial knockdown dog box and back seat gelcoat. https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...abf3de8abe.jpg Seats all the way forward fit perfectly, i'm 5'9" https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...a6d7471b59.jpg https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...18cadf1d10.jpg Seats turned around 180 and slid all the way towards stern clear the dogbox. There was no floor in the boat when project started, seat placement was a guess, good to have dumb luck i can tell ya https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...d2b5a326fb.jpg https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...b9a59f56e3.jpg Slid all the way to bow https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...9bc1423dbb.jpg https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...abf0a9c0a9.jpg |
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https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...0355bfad32.jpg https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...a08a8bea27.jpg https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...8c975628a6.jpg it was so nice down here today i ended spending 1/2 of it on the board. the thickened gel worked real good filling the pin holes, that coupled with my boardsanding abilities the box still isnt flat straight or symetrical, but its down to 80 grit and ready for its last round of gel. The finished product will be 2 things for sure, 1. good enough for who its for 2. good enough for the girls i bring around. my new slogan is as follows; I only use the best materials to make up for the obvious lack of skills |
Your glass and wood-work it top-notch! (as is your perseverance!) It will be an awesome boat!
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Thanks cdshack, i appreciate the nice words.
honestly tho cutting and fitting the wood and making the parts isn't that hard. But fit and finish after glass is tough, dimensions change differently than expected and planned for. The job really doesn't look that good in person, that's why the floor hatches got glassed in. It would fit and finish better in the end if it was covered with indoor/outdoor to hide the "goof ups and the blend it in a bits" structurally i'm 100 percent confident in it, cosmetically i'm more of a rough it in and keep it outta direct sunlight type. if there's gonna be another project it'll have to be a full deck-cockpit liner , there's too much bodywork trying to make stick built look good and that job is better off being left to the pros. thanks again keeps me motivated. |
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Are you planning on still using this to ski with? I ask because as you know they normally have the front passenger seat facing backwards and it looks like you are going to point it forward.
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