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outonsafari 07-01-2020 06:21 PM

Never again, probably !
 
So a while back i was all geared up to sand the bottom of the race boat (see other thread) to chase down a 1/2 mile an hour.
all of the sudden it occured to me this thing runs great, it met all my expectations, i love it and the absolute last thing i want to do is take things to far and go all crazy pulling strings and setting up water levels, this of course would have happened after it was partially derigged and off the trailer, because i could see getting carried away with it.
(self admission of stupidity). Thankfully none of that happened, and that thread will get an update next week or so

then stupid kicked back in, this followed me home and it went all plumbbob waterlevel and string pulling
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Bear with me theres about 100 pics coming

outonsafari 07-01-2020 06:34 PM

Thats right, ole rickety got set back up
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IGetWet 07-01-2020 06:40 PM

:popcorn:

J-Bonz 07-01-2020 06:40 PM

I love it! I would do this any day before buying a New 80k ski boat!

outonsafari 07-01-2020 06:46 PM

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outonsafari 07-01-2020 07:08 PM

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Magic marker outlines factory tabbing, it was horrible
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Swear to god 50 pounds of grinding dust was swept out, probably another 20 blew all over the neighbor hood
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outonsafari 07-01-2020 07:33 PM

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outonsafari 07-01-2020 07:45 PM

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Didnt come with the engine/pylon mount, stupid kept rearing its ugly head.
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Temp tabbed in just to set width because of engine/pylon mount connection with the easy bake oven measurometer and 3 layer 1708 thickness test.
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outonsafari 07-01-2020 07:57 PM

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outonsafari 07-01-2020 08:12 PM

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Ready for floor, material is here front half already cut and fit. This is as of today 7-1-20

outonsafari 07-01-2020 08:20 PM

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Nex 07-01-2020 09:22 PM

Do mine next! 🤣

outonsafari 07-01-2020 09:47 PM


Originally Posted by J-Bonz (Post 4746379)
I love it! I would do this any day before buying a New 80k ski boat!

https://www.nautique.com/models/ski-nautique/overview

the new ones are rediculous

cheech 07-01-2020 10:08 PM


Originally Posted by outonsafari (Post 4746420)

Ayup, where you been J-bonz?
And for the ultimate WTF as far as wake boat prices, scroll down to the tech specs on this one and see starting price. :cartman:
https://pavati.com/wake-boats/al26-wake-boat/

Nex 07-01-2020 11:12 PM

Holy ****! More than my first 2 houses.

resurrected 07-02-2020 06:07 AM

Incredible work!
How long did that take to date?

Helmwurst 07-02-2020 07:40 AM

That is going to be a very nice boat when you are finished !! I really like seeing these older boat restorations. If I had a shop with spare room, I would try to tackle one myself.

Tiki Joe 07-02-2020 09:40 AM

I'm always curious when I see these threads....what is your background? Are you a marine mechanic by trade? Heck of an undertaking by you again!
And yes...I was going to say $80k won't hardly touch a new one.

Ratty206ls 07-02-2020 11:26 AM

At least you got the skill to back up the stupidity (I actually refer to it as curiosity 😉)

CDShack 07-02-2020 02:27 PM

Great work, but.......I can't believe you're letting that 1/2 MPH get away from you! :whistle:

outonsafari 07-03-2020 08:19 AM

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the dog box is shaped to fit snug to the pylon, before the old inner stringers got cut out, the front most and rear most lags for the engine mounts got marked with the multi tool in the new outer stringers by spanning a straight edge across the boat.

common on the older nautiques is what i found out, the prop sticks out of the strut 2 inches, the engine/pylon mount locates everything without putting the engine in, so line it up slide forward an inch and a half, cut in some marks and the floor can get fit, the dog box will get glassed to a piece of ply that fits the big hole in the middle, no more engine stuffed in were it barely fits.

Craney 07-03-2020 09:48 AM

You do nice work everything looks really good, but man you must love to torture yourself.

outonsafari 07-04-2020 04:53 PM


Originally Posted by resurrected (Post 4746436)
Incredible work!

How long did that take to date?


i got it frst week of feb but it sits sometimes a week at a time. Something like 2-3 days of progress then a week off.



Originally Posted by Helmwurst (Post 4746454)
That is going to be a very nice boat when you are finished !! I really like seeing these older boat restorations. If I had a shop with spare room, I would try to tackle one myself.


10 x 12 shed, 8 x 16 slab, and an easy up is all you need.



Originally Posted by Tiki Joe (Post 4746471)
I'm always curious when I see these threads....what is your background? Are you a marine mechanic by trade? Heck of an undertaking by you again!

And yes...I was going to say $80k won't hardly touch a new one.


background, well as a kid i took all my toys apart and played wth the box, now im just trying to put them all back together so they don't get taken away and end up "on the garbage barge to china" (direct qoute from mom)



Originally Posted by Ratty206ls (Post 4746496)
At least you got the skill to back up the stupidity (I actually refer to it as curiosity 😉)


no skill, overprep overthink aim low. The guys who know the resin chemically and know material orientation, type, number of layers where and why, that's some serious smarts and skills



Originally Posted by CDShack (Post 4746514)
Great work, but.......I can't believe you're letting that 1/2 MPH get away from you! :whistle:


im not giving up, theres 1 or 2 in the prop but trying an adjustment in the next week or so first.



Originally Posted by Craney (Post 4746610)
You do nice work everything looks really good, but man you must love to torture yourself.


thanks, yes torture, it goes way back to the whole toy thing, it could be a case study.

outonsafari 07-04-2020 05:02 PM

Seen how most of us are into a boats history, i think this boat is going to be factory correct restoration, it sounds like he's in the finding everything phase of it. Really only the first page is the story, its a good read

Leo Bentz, Ski Nautique and Boat #1 - CorrectCraftFan.com Forums - Page 1

madbouyz 07-05-2020 01:34 PM

Before I even saw the first pic I thought to myself 'oh no , those things rot like all hell' , but then I realized that I had no worries after all.

If this was America's Got Talent' you'd get 5 solid yeses . The 5th one would be Terry Crews . :nicethread:.

I can't wait to see what it looks like when all the finishing details are done .

outonsafari 07-10-2020 05:10 PM

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outonsafari 07-10-2020 05:25 PM

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Madbouyz, they start rotting from day 1, this pic is what sold me on the nautique. It looked like it would cut open easy enough. Theu hull is pretty nice, real thick woven laid down nice, but after it went to rigging it was all down hill. Thanks for the compliment but i dont know how pretty its gonna be.

quick google search 1979 ski nautique will lead you to the above pic, the guy made a really nice bar out of the port side and transom

madbouyz 07-12-2020 12:51 PM

The great thing about a project Nautique of that vintage and size is it's so manageable due to its size and simplicity , especially once you get the old flooring out .
This should come out really well .
When I was a kid I had an uncle who had a wooden bullet nosed Chris Craft ski boat that we used to go out on once in a while. Not to mention a number of other old (back then) Centurys and similar glam ski boats.
Never got to drive one though . Then some years ago my then neighbors bought in a new fiberglass Supra , must have been about 20' max , 351 ski motor . The first time I took the wheel I was blown away . Rocket like acceleration , smooth as silk power delivery and turn (oh so easily) on a dime. What an eye opener it was . I wish I had been able to learn how to ski behind one of those things .

outonsafari 07-15-2020 03:58 PM

Footrest with bumpstop, thought i'd be clever, glass it first bed it down and tab it in. Then all it needs is quick grind and boom it'll be awesome.
first time tabbing in with a flashlight kneeling down head under the dash covered in resin up to the elbows, what a mess.


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Wildman_grafix 07-16-2020 07:25 AM


Originally Posted by madbouyz (Post 4747829)
The great thing about a project Nautique of that vintage and size is it's so manageable due to its size and simplicity , especially once you get the old flooring out .
This should come out really well .
When I was a kid I had an uncle who had a wooden bullet nosed Chris Craft ski boat that we used to go out on once in a while. Not to mention a number of other old (back then) Centurys and similar glam ski boats.
Never got to drive one though . Then some years ago my then neighbors bought in a new fiberglass Supra , must have been about 20' max , 351 ski motor . The first time I took the wheel I was blown away . Rocket like acceleration , smooth as silk power delivery and turn (oh so easily) on a dime. What an eye opener it was . I wish I had been able to learn how to ski behind one of those things .

I learned behind a 1949 wooden Century we had restored!

These early Nautiques were performers with the 351 in them. Correct Craft used to give our ski club one every year to use as a DEMO boat. We would beat the hell out of them. One of the things I used to love to do is sit on the motor hatch holding the ski pull while we did wash outs,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

madbouyz 07-16-2020 01:57 PM


Originally Posted by Wildman_grafix (Post 4748480)
I learned behind a 1949 wooden Century we had restored!

These early Nautiques were performers with the 351 in them. Correct Craft used to give our ski club one every year to use as a DEMO boat. We would beat the hell out of them. One of the things I used to love to do is sit on the motor hatch holding the ski pull while we did wash outs,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

Did you ever put on ski shows ? I remember when I must have been about 7 yrs old there were two small groups of guys and gals who used to put on shows on a Sunday afternoon in the summer time. Damn , all of us kids wanted to be like them what with their Kite skiing , ramp jumps, barefoot , human pyramids 3 people high and don't forget the clowns .
In retrospect it's almost hard to believe that those old woodies were kind heavy compared to modern glass boats and they might have had only a single 165 inboard in relation to their pulling power.

outonsafari 07-16-2020 07:01 PM


put some tracking fins on a raceboat, i mean would ya have to slow down for turn 1?

outonsafari 07-19-2020 10:03 AM

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Wildman_grafix 07-20-2020 10:45 AM


Originally Posted by madbouyz (Post 4748555)
Did you ever put on ski shows ? I remember when I must have been about 7 yrs old there were two small groups of guys and gals who used to put on shows on a Sunday afternoon in the summer time. Damn , all of us kids wanted to be like them what with their Kite skiing , ramp jumps, barefoot , human pyramids 3 people high and don't forget the clowns .
In retrospect it's almost hard to believe that those old woodies were kind heavy compared to modern glass boats and they might have had only a single 165 inboard in relation to their pulling power.

Yes the club would do two sanctioned events a year plus would take the DEMO to local tournaments. On weekends we would get together and just put our own like mini shows on. My friend dad and Uncle used to be Indiana and Michigan state trick ski champs. I am talking when trick skis were wood and only turned up on one end!

outonsafari 08-22-2020 04:27 PM

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back at it, all ground all cut 2 layers 2 tabs, heres goes nothin

outonsafari 08-28-2020 01:48 PM

Round 1, Fail, kinda think i know what happened but still confused.
so all ready to go, pour resin mix cabosil extra tools and material on hand, all backed up.
time the mix, plys got a light soak coat , cab goes like butter i mean beautiful.
1st tab goes down but its not liking the bubble roller for some reason,
place the floor pieces down all nice and smooth mix up a qaurt and boom the roller was picking the material up off the ply and trying to roll it up,
the bubble roller lifted it off the ply then let it go only to leave golf ball sized air pockets.
Ok more resin and sqee gee it and pull the resin into the bilge and wipe it up, nope,
air, like it was being pumped in no matter what i tried.
ok time to make lemonade pull off the material throw it in the yard and sqee gee the mess up.
boom go grab some 6 inch tape thats precut just in case pour a 16 mix it up and go, nope will not lay down total fail.

so its a couple qts and a couple yards, no big deal dont care not mad it happens, just have to start over.
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oh wait, my mask and cartridges broke from being dis assembled and vacummed out so many times over the last 4 months
because no one has masks, even the fiberglass supplier is out because of the corona ku koos.

that makes me mad plus now im gonna need ice cream and cookies and that means going to publix, rest assured i will be the only one there with out a mask, it will however bring me great joy to watch people do the 5 d's of dodgeball away from me cuz i dont have a mask on and im not social distancing.

this from people who during any other time and with all the other stuff out there like the hiv, the aids, the dengue fever, the bolla bolla, trenchfoot, the rot mouth and so on pass the bottle the dope the needle and the sex around like its the last day on earth, all rubbin and touching eacother all dirty and all lacking personal space, yuck, fu--kin--sa-- va--ges !!

have a nice day, i'll be back on it tomorrow one way or another




IGetWet 08-28-2020 02:23 PM

^^^ The wife and I just had a good laugh at this one! I get looks and sheet from people for not wearing a mask as well. Keep at it Dan!

outonsafari 08-28-2020 04:24 PM


Originally Posted by IGetWet (Post 4754976)
^^^ The wife and I just had a good laugh at this one! I get looks and sheet from people for not wearing a mask as well. Keep at it Dan!

will do, its friday, big night around here i'll be all hopped up on the ice cream and cutting glass in the living room.

commence planetary alignment
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madbouyz 08-29-2020 11:15 AM

Round 1, Fail, kinda think i know what happened but still confused.
so all ready to go, pour resin mix cabosil extra tools and material on hand, all backed up.
time the mix, plys got a light soak coat , cab goes like butter i mean beautiful.
1st tab goes down but its not liking the bubble roller for some reason,
place the floor pieces down all nice and smooth mix up a qaurt and boom the roller was picking the material up off the ply and trying to roll it up,
the bubble roller lifted it off the ply then let it go only to leave golf ball sized air pockets.
Ok more resin and sqee gee it and pull the resin into the bilge and wipe it up, nope,
air, like it was being pumped in no matter what i tried.
ok time to make lemonade pull off the material throw it in the yard and sqee gee the mess up.
boom go grab some 6 inch tape thats precut just in case pour a 16 mix it up and go, nope will not lay down total fail.

so its a couple qts and a couple yards, no big deal dont care not mad it happens, just have to start over.oh wait, my mask and cartridges broke from being dis assembled and vacummed out so many times over the last 4 months
because no one has masks, even the fiberglass supplier is out because of the corona ku koos.


Why do I get the impression that the printed word has been much sanitized to perfect P C standards over what was REALLY said at the time ? :D

outonsafari 08-29-2020 04:20 PM


Originally Posted by madbouyz (Post 4755052)
Why do I get the impression that the printed word has been much sanitized to perfect P C standards over what was REALLY said at the time ? :D

it wasnt cleaned that much !


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