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Lake rat Skater 08-28-2014 08:39 PM

David do you still have skegs on center motors of did you chop them off? I've seen a few fast triples without skegs in the center. Also did you get a set of dewalt props. Seems guys are having good luck with them on 28's with 300s I really love the colors they look even better on the water

davidmercury 08-29-2014 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Lake rat Skater (Post 4179883)
David do you still have skegs on center motors of did you chop them off? I've seen a few fast triples without skegs in the center. Also did you get a set of dewalt props. Seems guys are having good luck with them on 28's with 300s I really love the colors they look even better on the water

Thanks for the compliments!

I'm going to keep trimming the skegs on the center motors until the last thing. I believe that I can easily reach my goal of 120+ with just switching outside drives, removing the 350lbs, and playing with engine height.
The 4 blade dewalds that I tried last fall didn't work very well as they increased the stern lift

Kims 08-30-2014 12:47 AM

Awesome project. Just so happy it's not CC or my work would be done........

Andy 08-30-2014 01:17 PM


Originally Posted by da*****rcury (Post 4180198)
Thanks for the compliments!

I'm going to keep trimming the skegs on the center motors until the last thing. I believe that I can easily reach my goal of 120+ with just switching outside drives, removing the 350lbs, and playing with engine height.
The 4 blade dewalds that I tried last fall didn't work very well as they increased the stern lift

What size and pitch Dewalds?

Skater30 08-31-2014 08:33 AM

Very beautiful 36 David! I will be running Dewald's first set of CNC 36s on my 28 very soon and will let you know what speed/rpm they run. I think a set of four of them would get you closer to the 130 mark than your goal of 120 (with some setup changes to your rig). Have you ever thought about taking all that weight out of your boat and putting your motors on setbacks? I'd first call and talk to Pete about it, but that would certainly help your 36 carry the nose.

davidmercury 08-31-2014 11:50 PM


Originally Posted by Kims (Post 4180478)
Awesome project. Just so happy it's not CC or my work would be done........


Originally Posted by Andy (Post 4180591)
What size and pitch Dewalds?


Originally Posted by Skater30 (Post 4180798)
Very beautiful 36 David! I will be running Dewald's first set of CNC 36s on my 28 very soon and will let you know what speed/rpm they run. I think a set of four of them would get you closer to the 130 mark than your goal of 120 (with some setup changes to your rig). Have you ever thought about taking all that weight out of your boat and putting your motors on setbacks? I'd first call and talk to Pete about it, but that would certainly help your 36 carry the nose.

Thanks, the dewalds I tried were15x 34's, Dave said that he was working on cnc machining, but they weren't ready yet. Its great to hear he got it going,
I would be interested in knowing how they work out for you.
Set back probably would help, it's cool to know I've got more options available if I want to go faster.
I'm gradually removing weight as I go, I started with 500 lbs to see the effect. I had taken 150 out before the shootout, and I just took 100 out today for my next run

davidmercury 09-01-2014 05:33 AM


Originally Posted by SS930 (Post 4177340)
Congrats David! What did you end up running for numbers and which class did you run in?

Thanks SS I ran 116
in the "jam packed" NCO4F4 class :)

Skater30 09-01-2014 12:54 PM


Originally Posted by da*****rcury (Post 4181089)
Thanks, the dewalds I tried were15x 34's, Dave said that he was working on cnc machining, but they weren't ready yet. Its great to hear he got it going,
I would be interested in knowing how they work out for you.
Set back probably would help, it's cool to know I've got more options available if I want to go faster.
I'm gradually removing weight as I go, I started with 500 lbs to see the effect. I had taken 150 out before the shootout, and I just took 100 out today for my next run

Best of luck with it David, and I'll let you know the #s I get out of the 36s. You've done a beautiful job on the restoration of your 36!

davidmercury 09-10-2014 06:52 AM

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Thanks, here are some some shots of my shootout run from Scott Porta, and Jay Nichols

Taboma 09-10-2014 10:50 AM

Great speed numbers, Dave. your boat looks great in photos, but MUCH better in person! David

tom kennedy 09-10-2014 08:19 PM

Hey Dave it was great meeting you at the loto this year , an thx for introducing me to
skate , hope to see al you guys next year also
thanks Tom

davidmercury 09-11-2014 08:10 PM

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thanks Guys! I received several photo files from Pete Boden also. He also does great work, here is a sample

Double Rigged 09-12-2014 06:29 AM

David,
Send me your best shot hes in email so we can work on the Skater Outboard Gang/Club shirts. Want to include your 4 engine monster!!!!
I need one for Tom K too. Craig has already sent one. If Skate has some he can send them too!

davidmercury 11-04-2014 06:57 PM


Originally Posted by Skater30 (Post 4180798)
Very beautiful 36 David! I will be running Dewald's first set of CNC 36s on my 28 very soon and will let you know what speed/rpm they run. I think a set of four of them would get you closer to the 130 mark than your goal of 120 (with some setup changes to your rig). Have you ever thought about taking all that weight out of your boat and putting your motors on setbacks? I'd first call and talk to Pete about it, but that would certainly help your 36 carry the nose.

Check your pm

phragle 11-04-2014 07:53 PM

I was checking that thing out at Dave's, I remember it from his old shop when he was putting it together. It came out SWEET!! you have a hell of a boat man!

davidmercury 11-07-2014 03:50 PM

thanks!
Yeah glassdave got all teary eyed when I came pulling in his driveway. He spent a lot of alone time with the skater, I know it brought back fond memories.:drool1:

tom kennedy 11-07-2014 04:51 PM

Sent pics to double David the shirts should
Be very cool!

Double Rigged 11-07-2014 06:00 PM


Originally Posted by tom kennedy (Post 4215794)
Sent pics to double David the shirts should
Be very cool!

Tom
Never received any other pics! Still would love to come up with something.
Need Pics

davidmercury 11-08-2014 04:08 PM


Originally Posted by Double Rigged (Post 4215820)
Tom
Never received any other pics! Still would love to come up with something.
Need Pics

Ok ill get with it, sorry Ron

davidmercury 11-09-2014 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by phragle (Post 4214290)
I was checking that thing out at Dave's, I remember it from his old shop when he was putting it together. It came out SWEET!! you have a hell of a boat man!

We had it at glassdave's new shop because on our way to LOTO a trucker sideswiped the port side corner of the stern, gouging the rubrail and corner of boat under that. There was some collateral damage that needed repaired too.

davidmercury 12-17-2014 07:07 PM

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It's time to start remembering warmer times, 100 degrees at Loto

Double Rigged 12-17-2014 07:14 PM


Originally Posted by da*****rcury (Post 4236280)
It's time to start remembering warmer times, 100 degrees at Loto

Plenty warm down here. Was 80 today no wind. Could have run that Skater all the way to Key West!!!!!

skate 12-17-2014 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Double Rigged (Post 4236284)
Plenty warm down here. Was 80 today no wind. Could have run that Skater all the way to Key West!!!!!

Yea yea yea. Don't you need to be working on your man cave?


Originally Posted by da*****rcury (Post 4236280)
It's time to start remembering warmer times, 100 degrees at Loto

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davidmercury 01-12-2015 04:34 PM

36 skater project
 
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Looking forward to spring

Nice Pair 01-12-2015 06:09 PM


Originally Posted by da*****rcury (Post 4248430)
Looking forward to spring

Great pic ... Great boat [ATTACH=CONFIG]535617[/ATTACH]

Double Rigged 01-12-2015 07:46 PM


Originally Posted by da*****rcury (Post 4248430)
Looking forward to spring

David
That is a great pic! Need to get that in high res for the shirts!
do you have a high res version

davidmercury 01-13-2015 03:48 PM


Originally Posted by Double Rigged (Post 4248559)
David
That is a great pic! Need to get that in high res for the shirts!
do you have a high res version

For tee shirts? Lower res makes it look faster:rolleyes:

Double Rigged 01-13-2015 06:35 PM

Its all about the quality my brother......
No short cuts for me!

davidmercury 01-20-2015 11:29 AM

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I don't think that this was one was posted yet from LOTO

Double Rigged 01-20-2015 02:02 PM

Nice Shot!

LAriverratt 01-20-2015 03:01 PM

both great pics but I like the one with a clear shot of the quad set up best!

davidmercury 01-22-2015 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by LAriverratt (Post 4252979)
both great pics but I like the one with a clear shot of the quad set up best!

Ok well, hows this, the first mate is on board and ready for the ramp
By the way, what do you guys think of me repowering my skater with the new 400's? I'm wondering about the resale market for my 280's and what would be involved in the changeover concerning the gauge package difference. Just kicking it around

Double Rigged 01-22-2015 11:29 AM

David,
You will have to change complete gauge package, wire harness to dash including wiring for key switches, alarms ect. Also it would require special throttle box for DTS as the new verado is electric throttle and shift.
Some sort of custom steering tiebar packge etc.
It would be a fun project but a big one!!!!!
Not sure what the 280's are worth but I am sure the guys on S&F will buy them.

LAriverratt 01-22-2015 01:04 PM

that's what I'm talking about!!!! love the look of the 4- 280's but your first mate is outshining them in this one! :cool:

speicher lane 01-22-2015 01:41 PM

Amazing....This thread is 91 pages long and still going strong - and relevant.

That is one spectacular Skater project to be proud of!

Lake rat Skater 01-22-2015 02:50 PM


Originally Posted by da*****rcury (Post 4254136)
Ok well, hows this, the first mate is on board and ready for the ramp
By the way, what do you guys think of me repowering my skater with the new 400's? I'm wondering about the resale market for my 280's and what would be involved in the changeover concerning the gauge package difference. Just kicking it around

I'm sure clean 280s like yours would bring at least 10k each on scream and fly. If the new 400's weigh around the 650 mark then with 4 that's a lot of weight on the transom. I would think it would run almost as well and resale would be just as good with 3 400's. I't wont sound near as good as the 280's but I would think it would be a lot more reliable and better on fuel. I would think overall resale would be much better with more modern power. Either way you have an outboard lovers dream boat

davidmercury 01-23-2015 03:48 AM


Originally Posted by Double Rigged (Post 4254175)
David,
You will have to change complete gauge package, wire harness to dash including wiring for key switches, alarms ect. Also it would require special throttle box for DTS as the new verado is electric throttle and shift.
Some sort of custom steering tiebar packge etc.
It would be a fun project but a big one!!!!!
Not sure what the 280's are worth but I am sure the guys on S&F will buy them.

Yes re-rig would be a major pain x4. I need to hear a good dose of reality.
There would have to be a big reward at the end of rainbow to make it worth while. It will exciting to see how they perform on nastybugs skater


Originally Posted by Lake rat Skater (Post 4254259)
I'm sure clean 280s like yours would bring at least 10k each on scream and fly. If the new 400's weigh around the 650 mark then with 4 that's a lot of weight on the transom. I would think it would run almost as well and resale would be just as good with 3 400's. I't wont sound near as good as the 280's but I would think it would be a lot more reliable and better on fuel. I would think overall resale would be much better with more modern power. Either way you have an outboard lovers dream boat

If I went with the new verodos and kept the engine count at four I would have an extra 800-1000 lbs hanging off of my transom! Seriously something to think about.
I do love the sound of the 4 x 2.5's. The mixing of the oil not so much. also at idle the exhaust is a bit smoky especially when using my favorite for high rpm engine protection, Klotz R50.
I dont think that selling my 2.5's will be a problem either, one was a brand new 05 when I got it (20 hours now) and one has 2014 powerhead just installed last July (12 hours now). Another was a fresh Diamond rebuild last July (12 hours now) The last one is a jay smith racing powerhead (20 hours now)
Except for the 2005, the other three mid-sections were completely disassembled and bead blasted and powder-coated so they all look pretty clean too. Lowers were completly gone through by Collabela.

I do have some unfinished business though. When I set out, I had a goal of 120+. Some things have recently come to light that could possibly extend that.

Double Rigged 01-23-2015 06:23 AM


Originally Posted by Lake rat Skater (Post 4254259)
I'm sure clean 280s like yours would bring at least 10k each on scream and fly. If the new 400's weigh around the 650 mark then with 4 that's a lot of weight on the transom. I would think it would run almost as well and resale would be just as good with 3 400's. I't wont sound near as good as the 280's but I would think it would be a lot more reliable and better on fuel. I would think overall resale would be much better with more modern power. Either way you have an outboard lovers dream boat

I love that word resale value!!! If you went with 4 Verados you would be investing at least another $100,000.00 dollars by the time your done. Something to think about. That is why I love this hobby so much. We just keep spending money and helping the economy! LOL I would wait and see how Nasty's boat runs to get a gauge on real HP numbers vs weight of the motors before I would pull the trigger!

I also be if you went with quad 300x motors you would have the sound you are looking for plus a ton of speed!!!!!!

LAriverratt 01-23-2015 07:07 AM

how much re-rigging would that be?...I love spending other peoples money!:drink:

Double Rigged 01-23-2015 07:57 AM

Let's do some math for him!!!
3 times $27K per motor = $81k. Add 3ea new Dewald props $2500.00ea =$7500.00 Add 2ea new Vessel View 7"s $1500.00ea = $3000.00 New throttle and Shift estimate $3000.00 Steering tie bars and system Latham at least $10.000.00 Wiring and Misc $6000.00 Total so far $104,500.00
Plus Labor ?????
Total PRICELESS!!!!!!!
:ernaehrung004:


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