Rik your young and have BIG arms. Us old guys love out power steering.

"My ram is bigger than your ram" ;-)

Look, we got the thread going again, Skater brothers thinking and talking again. Keep going!

Got the old girl out yesterday afternoon. Ran to Miami and back over 60 miles.
Had to get the juices flowing again. Forgot what it was like to go boating and owning a Skater!
Now i know.

Blowing the cob webs off as we type ... next Saturday is our St. Patties Day Run.
Been doing some Skunk-works stuff ... don't want to shoot my mouth off until I've tested.
+ standard maintenance stuff, new billet seal carriers + reseal, re-gel some small dock rash, etc
Hearsay has it we're gonna see 2 maybe 3 new boats, recycled not brand new. ;-)

How's everybody's new year so far?

Dale, Mine was set up just like yours. Steering wasn't bad, just is better now with power! Maybe the quotient is small arms??? :pacifier:

Nope, I have big arms. Lambos, Ferrari, vettes, all have power steering :)

I think I need to move south ! Lol

Not hear say. Yes at least 3 new ones. First one going to my longtime boater friend and world champion 28 Skater Rob Loeffler. Boat getting 15" BRAND NEW 300x motors. We will start a thread once he gets the boat.

I'll be "Skaterless" this Summer - first time in 17 years! I think it will be worth the wait though, it will be nice to have an "all-new" boat again - and hopefully with 500s bolted to the transom........

I hope the 500's happen for you Dale.
If so I will have to consider a refit

2000hp .......... has a nice sound to it! ;-)

Grandpa, Daughter, Grand-Daughter (driving) soon to be Grand-Son In Law (shotgun)

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pic was taken from a ways away, didn't blow-up too well.

ok?!!?!?!? who ordered a new 418V outboard today?:whistle:

Helt?:daz:

HMMMMM...42v cc mti and a 41v outboard skater sounds about right....7 400R's sounds like a good idea to me:cool:

Only seven ??? ;-)

anybody know how well this one performs now??? had 300's if I remember correctly. I like it that's for sure!!

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Craig it still hasn't been dialed in, but currently running 94-94. The owner also owns a MTI. Boat is pristine though. Canadian

That quarter-canopied classic deck 32 is such a nice looking rig! What a great big water outboard cat! I watched it when it was for sale, as I had a few friends interested at the time - I think the asking price was $139k. Even after the re-rig to 400s, I doubt he has over $200k into it - that's a nice "3-year-warrantied" rig he has for that amount invested. I'm certain they can get well over a hundred out of it if they're after it. But if all they do is run it in big water, they might not ever throw a set of big wheels on it. Congrats to the lucky Canuck that has that 32 AND an MTI!

The boards have sure been quiet lately - I figured guys would have been back on the water by now chasing some #s with the cool Spring air. I have three friends with outboard cats I will be involved with testing Dewalds on in the next month or so - Dan's 28DW/XSs, Pete's 30 Motion/XSs and Jay's Nordic 28/XSs. My other buddy Rob with the Skater 30/XSs is plenty happy just breaking 100 with a set of thru-hub 31 4 blades that run #s as if they were 32s. Steve seems just as happy with his quarter-canopied 28/XSs running low 100s with 4 people on board. I'm certain we will see a few 400R boats crack 130mph this year. The triple 400R DCB M29 already passed 130, hitting 131, but with needing triples to do it, I was not that impressed. I have all year to sit back without my rig, watching what everybody else sets as the bar for performance #s with 400R rigs.........

Has anyone tried this "Drive Sync" on an outboard application?


http://www.marinedesigncorp.com/driv...e-edition.html

I thought the 32A above was running in the 95-98 range with XS's is that incorrect? If so any idea why it's not running any better than 94 with the 400's or have they just not done any "setup" with it? Top end numbers definitely aren't everything but I would have thought it would be faster than that having gone from XS's to the 400's.

I ask because I still get the itch every once in awhile to look toward the 400's for my 32 but not if it wouldn't run faster than that, I figured I'd end up around the 110 range with them vs where I am with the trip X's.

It's not a 32A, It's a 32B. Like i said before," it still hasn't been dialed in, but currently running 94-95". I'm sure it has more.

I heard they got 110 out of Matt Rice's flat-deck 32B with 400Rs - and the boat weighed over 6,000#s fully rigged/no fuel!

Grant told me that boat would run 108 all day any day and 110mph was the number i heard also.
I will also say the boat had remote water pick ups installed on the motors as well.

Those were on the boat when it had triples, and were put to use with the 400's

I definitely wasn't trying to make a dig at the boat above, I can't wait to hear impressions of it on the water and what they think of it now vs when it had the XS's. I was just a little surprised that it hadn't run faster but with those numbers I'd guess they put the same props on it and the 400's seem to be very picky about props, the first DCB is a prime example of that. It's still fast we're just all a little crazy about numbers and potential.

that's a d@mn good number for an older 32 with 400's. much larger than our 30's and still solidly over 100mph is impressive to me. Of course the new 36 at 115...now that's the sh!t IMO in a twin 400R outboard cats to date!!!

Matt just reported in SOTW that the 368 did 119 with 34" merc CNC props.

Sam, You should find out where they ran the boat and run yours over there next week. Would be interesting dont you think?

WOW 119, I'd be very interested to know if the difference is the boat or the ROS motors. It would be very interesting to see what it would do with regular 400's bolted up. The 36 and 38's have always been super efficient designs but wow...

I know this has been posted before, but guys aren't seeming to understand that the ROS makes no more HP, or have a higher rev limiter than a stock 400R. There is no speed difference between the two. If matt Rice's 368 had 400Rs, it would run the exact same speed as it does with the ROS motors. What you guys do all need to realize though, is that Matt may not be running the stock ROS ECU flash. Both Dustin Whipple and Eric Simon offer an ECU flash that raises the HP output of either motor (ROS or R) to 430-440HP, and also raises the rev limiter to 7,400 (I believe). The Eliminator 27 Daytona that ran 127mph had these ECU upgraded flashes, as it ran that speed @ 7,350rpm. I'm not saying that Matt is not running stock ECUs, but I'm just letting you guys know that additional HP/RPM is available already for the 400s. Either way, Matt's 368 has raised the bar for big cats with outboard power. Just another example of what Peter Hledin can do when the customer wants all-out performance over "bling".

And that's why I'm a Skater fan!

not a total blingless model .. how much does that paint and seat configuration weight??? :daz:

I think people have to understand that Grant has helped Skater a ton with these 400R boats and it's very cool that Peter has been open minded to advice. It has obviously helped.

Matt's 368 is AMAZING!!! Stoked for him!!!!

No doubt about that. In a few pics you can see some changes with the back end of the boat including the size of the notch. Like Dale said the powerheads are the same however the way the exhaust comes out is not. It may produce a few extra ponies but who knows....... Either way nicest OB cat to date!

Grant stated that the motors were completely stock on the 368. With the notch on that rig he needed 15s or the motors would be in the sky.

I drove Matt's boat last weekend with him (and blake) and have to agree that the 368 is a badass ride.... It was 2-3 foot in the bay and snotty (windy) and the boat handled/ran great. It was extremely responsive in terms of trim and handling and we saw 112mph no problem without any clean water. I wasn't surprised to hear that he ran 119mph and knowing grant, they'll be finding a lot more.

It's great to see these 400 boats getting sorted-out. When Dave get's his over-hub 5 blades done, it will add another element to dialing in these setups. In the overall scheme of things, the outboard boats are still relatively slow, but they are definitely getting there pretty quickly from where they were when the 400s were first released. I think we'll see 130s and 140s out of twin outboard powered boats in the next year or two. That's when they'll finally be running speeds that are acceptable as an alternative to inboard power imo. The inboard boats have gotten fast to the point of ridiculous, but 120mph just isn't fast enough for a lot of guys still. This is a very exciting time to be an "outboard guy"! :flag: