Outboard skater BS thread!
04-19-2017 | 01:41 PM
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04-19-2017 | 04:42 PM
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It's great to see these 400 boats getting sorted-out. When Dave get's his over-hub 5 blades done, it will add another element to dialing in these setups. In the overall scheme of things, the outboard boats are still relatively slow, but they are definitely getting there pretty quickly from where they were when the 400s were first released. I think we'll see 130s and 140s out of twin outboard powered boats in the next year or two. That's when they'll finally be running speeds that are acceptable as an alternative to inboard power imo. The inboard boats have gotten fast to the point of ridiculous, but 120mph just isn't fast enough for a lot of guys still. This is a very exciting time to be an "outboard guy"! 
04-20-2017 | 10:12 AM
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I was under the impression the ROS's did have a little more punch and a little less weight than the standard 400, maybe not though since I'm definitely not the one in the know. Regardless there are some great boats coming out with these and think as we get a few more people playing with them they'll learn some more about what they like and don't and find even more speed. I'm curious how many more people will go the ROS route and see what the difference is in real world performance.
As for not fast enough I agree with that to a point but also disagree. That's pretty fast in a much more reliable package, it also is much safer. How much time do people really spend cruising over 100 and if those people are being honest how safe is that? With the number of tragedy's we've seen the last few years I think a lot of people are starting to realize that the industry has gotten a little out of hand and dangerous and that's another reason for the trend towards center consoles away from the monster power cats.
I think the more people that get in these newer 30+ foot cats with 400's that will cruise at 100+ and run 110+ will convert over quicker than we think. It's a way to keep the ride, thrill, and cool factor of a cat but get back a level of safety and lower maintenance without going to a center console. I say 30+ foot because once you get over that length you start getting a lot better ride in rougher water. A 28 is and always will be a bad ride but they're not everyone's cup of tea in rougher water.
As for not fast enough I agree with that to a point but also disagree. That's pretty fast in a much more reliable package, it also is much safer. How much time do people really spend cruising over 100 and if those people are being honest how safe is that? With the number of tragedy's we've seen the last few years I think a lot of people are starting to realize that the industry has gotten a little out of hand and dangerous and that's another reason for the trend towards center consoles away from the monster power cats.
I think the more people that get in these newer 30+ foot cats with 400's that will cruise at 100+ and run 110+ will convert over quicker than we think. It's a way to keep the ride, thrill, and cool factor of a cat but get back a level of safety and lower maintenance without going to a center console. I say 30+ foot because once you get over that length you start getting a lot better ride in rougher water. A 28 is and always will be a bad ride but they're not everyone's cup of tea in rougher water.
04-20-2017 | 10:36 AM
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I was under the impression the ROS's did have a little more punch and a little less weight than the standard 400, maybe not though since I'm definitely not the one in the know. Regardless there are some great boats coming out with these and think as we get a few more people playing with them they'll learn some more about what they like and don't and find even more speed. I'm curious how many more people will go the ROS route and see what the difference is in real world performance.
As for not fast enough I agree with that to a point but also disagree. That's pretty fast in a much more reliable package, it also is much safer. How much time do people really spend cruising over 100 and if those people are being honest how safe is that? With the number of tragedy's we've seen the last few years I think a lot of people are starting to realize that the industry has gotten a little out of hand and dangerous and that's another reason for the trend towards center consoles away from the monster power cats.
I think the more people that get in these newer 30+ foot cats with 400's that will cruise at 100+ and run 110+ will convert over quicker than we think. It's a way to keep the ride, thrill, and cool factor of a cat but get back a level of safety and lower maintenance without going to a center console. I say 30+ foot because once you get over that length you start getting a lot better ride in rougher water. A 28 is and always will be a bad ride but they're not everyone's cup of tea in rougher water.
As for not fast enough I agree with that to a point but also disagree. That's pretty fast in a much more reliable package, it also is much safer. How much time do people really spend cruising over 100 and if those people are being honest how safe is that? With the number of tragedy's we've seen the last few years I think a lot of people are starting to realize that the industry has gotten a little out of hand and dangerous and that's another reason for the trend towards center consoles away from the monster power cats.
I think the more people that get in these newer 30+ foot cats with 400's that will cruise at 100+ and run 110+ will convert over quicker than we think. It's a way to keep the ride, thrill, and cool factor of a cat but get back a level of safety and lower maintenance without going to a center console. I say 30+ foot because once you get over that length you start getting a lot better ride in rougher water. A 28 is and always will be a bad ride but they're not everyone's cup of tea in rougher water.
04-21-2017 | 11:58 PM
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I'm so stoked, I get my first 28 back for the Summer while my 30 is back at the factory! 1998 28 with 300PMs. It only runs a best of 111, but it's such a great boat (as all 28 Skaters are). At least I'll be on the water in a fast cat this Summer........ 
04-22-2017 | 04:21 AM
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Hey, do 28 Skaters powered by 300XS motors really suck some seawater back in when doing over 100MPH ? I'm not seeing any dry salt under my cowls anywhere. Wondering if it could be doing it or is that only an issue on boats with 15in mids?
04-22-2017 | 05:19 PM
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Australia, Yes they do. I think if you go to Dave Bush Racing website, there is a video of a 300sx ingesting the spray from a boat, but if memory serves me right, it was not a cat. Mike Nass made alien style cowls like the X motors have for the 300SX's but no longer makes them. Somebody bought the molds and equipment to fab. them, but I have not heard of a start time of who it is. Maybe someone can chime in on this.
04-23-2017 | 12:31 AM
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04-23-2017 | 08:20 PM
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I can say for sure that they do. Having had a 28 with xs motors in the ocean here as well as running with Zero Patience this weekend you would not believe the mist up behind the cowling.
It's bad.
It's bad.
