80 mph + 24' Superboat (continued from Pantera Forum)
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Yup, I agree for the most part.
Above 70 in the rough gets a little nutty. If I had a set of those thick sit down racing bolster, I'd probably push her a little harder though. I stand in the rough at this point, I'm short enough...
On calm water, my boat handles great even at 75mph and if she had more, I'd use it...
Above 70 in the rough gets a little nutty. If I had a set of those thick sit down racing bolster, I'd probably push her a little harder though. I stand in the rough at this point, I'm short enough...

On calm water, my boat handles great even at 75mph and if she had more, I'd use it...


Pat, when I first got my Pantera I couldn't get comfortable sitting because it was kind of a half sitting/half standing. And I did not like standing in the rough. The cockpit isn't deep enough for me to be comfortable standing. I ended up lowering the bolster bottoms of my seats 3" or 4"(I can't remember off the top off my head) and now it's much more comfortable. The bolsters now wrap around you higher and give you a much more secure feeling.
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Pat, when I first got my Pantera I couldn't get comfortable sitting because it was kind of a half sitting/half standing. And I did not like standing in the rough. The cockpit isn't deep enough for me to be comfortable standing. I ended up lowering the bolster bottoms of my seats 3" or 4"(I can't remember off the top off my head) and now it's much more comfortable. The bolsters now wrap around you higher and give you a much more secure feeling.
Lowering the seat bottoms is a vary good idea, infact Zuperboat did the exact same thing to the stand/sit seats in his 30' Superboat.
The problem with doing that in my 24' Super is then the bottoms will hit the floor if I do want to swing them away and ride standing.
T-mone is going to have a new set of PPIs install in his boat when he brings his boat to FLA for the winter. I'm going to check those out next spring.
I'm also going to take a good look at Superbash's boat when he comes to CT in a few weeks. Superbash has the sit down setup from Superboat in his 24'.
One other thing I have to consider is my throttle location. If I sit much lower, I may not be able to reach it without moving that too.
We'll see what happens next year; no cash to change anything right now anyhow...
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Last edited by Pat McPherson; 10-05-2007 at 01:12 PM.
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In my old 24' Pantera sport, I could not sit at all because my legs would hit the dash.
Lowering the seat bottoms is a vary good idea, infact Zuperboat did the exact same thing to the stand/sit seats in his 30' Superboat.
The problem with doing that in my 24' Super is then the bottoms will hit the floor if I do want to swing them away and ride standing.
T-mone is going to have a new set of PPIs install in his boat when he brings his boat to FLA for the winter. I'm going to check those out next spring.
I'm also going to take a good look at Superbash's boat when he comes to CT in a few weeks. Superbash has the sit down setup from Superboat in his 24'.
One other thing I have to consider is my throttle location. If I sit much lower, I may not be able to reach it without moving that too.
We'll see what happens next year; no cash to change anything right now anyhow...
Lowering the seat bottoms is a vary good idea, infact Zuperboat did the exact same thing to the stand/sit seats in his 30' Superboat.
The problem with doing that in my 24' Super is then the bottoms will hit the floor if I do want to swing them away and ride standing.
T-mone is going to have a new set of PPIs install in his boat when he brings his boat to FLA for the winter. I'm going to check those out next spring.
I'm also going to take a good look at Superbash's boat when he comes to CT in a few weeks. Superbash has the sit down setup from Superboat in his 24'.
One other thing I have to consider is my throttle location. If I sit much lower, I may not be able to reach it without moving that too.
We'll see what happens next year; no cash to change anything right now anyhow...
Zuperboat actually helped me out with mine. I hear you on the seats hitting the floor but after I did the mod I NEVER rode standing up again. In fact I took mine one step further this year and made them permanent sit downs. I looked at converting mine like T-mones and it would have been a lot of work as my whole dash would have to be modified. I don't know how your bolsters are set up but if you ever want pics of what I did let me know.
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Zuperboat actually helped me out with mine. I hear you on the seats hitting the floor but after I did the mod I NEVER rode standing up again. In fact I took mine one step further this year and made them permanent sit downs. I looked at converting mine like T-mones and it would have been a lot of work as my whole dash would have to be modified. I don't know how your bolsters are set up but if you ever want pics of what I did let me know.
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Nothing new yet. We should be picking it up tomorrow to go run it again assuming T.C. has sent the computer back for us to have today.
We upgraded the oil cooler, and the fuel system from the tank to the engine. Hopefully that will solve the rpm problem. Header gasket has been replaced with a better piece.
Hopefully tomorrow we'll get her out and run and see what she does. I will probably wait for spring to prop test as we're running out of time this year. She's going to be winterized in about 2 weeks.
We upgraded the oil cooler, and the fuel system from the tank to the engine. Hopefully that will solve the rpm problem. Header gasket has been replaced with a better piece.
Hopefully tomorrow we'll get her out and run and see what she does. I will probably wait for spring to prop test as we're running out of time this year. She's going to be winterized in about 2 weeks.
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Nothing new yet. We should be picking it up tomorrow to go run it again assuming T.C. has sent the computer back for us to have today.
We upgraded the oil cooler, and the fuel system from the tank to the engine. Hopefully that will solve the rpm problem. Header gasket has been replaced with a better piece.
Hopefully tomorrow we'll get her out and run and see what she does. I will probably wait for spring to prop test as we're running out of time this year. She's going to be winterized in about 2 weeks.
We upgraded the oil cooler, and the fuel system from the tank to the engine. Hopefully that will solve the rpm problem. Header gasket has been replaced with a better piece.
Hopefully tomorrow we'll get her out and run and see what she does. I will probably wait for spring to prop test as we're running out of time this year. She's going to be winterized in about 2 weeks.
I've got a ø14.5" x 28p 4 blade Mach I could send you next week to try.
It was a little too big for my boat but still ran OK. 75mph at 4700rpm with vary neutral lift.
Have Fun!
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I'll try anything you're willing to send my way Pat! I've talked with Brett about their prop testing program. I've also sent a PM to Throttle Up asking about their program which has been summarily ignored.
I'll PM you about that prop. Thanks Pat! Us engineers have to stick together ya know. If you want or need to try a 25P Mirage Plus labbed by BBlades, you're more than welcome to it.
I'll PM you about that prop. Thanks Pat! Us engineers have to stick together ya know. If you want or need to try a 25P Mirage Plus labbed by BBlades, you're more than welcome to it.
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I'll try anything you're willing to send my way Pat! I've talked with Brett about their prop testing program. I've also sent a PM to Throttle Up asking about their program which has been summarily ignored.
I'll PM you about that prop. Thanks Pat! Us engineers have to stick together ya know. If you want or need to try a 25P Mirage Plus labbed by BBlades, you're more than welcome to it.
I'll PM you about that prop. Thanks Pat! Us engineers have to stick together ya know. If you want or need to try a 25P Mirage Plus labbed by BBlades, you're more than welcome to it.
No thanks on the 25p M+, I've got a 27p that runs real well.
I have not ever tested a prop from BBlades or Throttle up. It has always been easier for me to find a fellow boater willing to let me try theirs.
If you do have a Merc prop and need it repaired or altered, BBlades is the place to go.
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