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The easy way to get 700 !! It has to cost less then a new 700. Hell, when you get your motor back it will be good as new. Should be able to handle it.
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Originally Posted by FX10
(Post 2021792)
The easy way to get 700 !! It has to cost less then a new 700. Hell, when you get your motor back it will be good as new. Should be able to handle it.
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Thanks Pat, I just saw your post on that thread, this is gonna get good !!!!!!:D
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Originally Posted by Superbabi
(Post 2023603)
Thanks Pat, I just saw your post on that thread, this is gonna get good !!!!!!:D
I'm assuming your engine builder has a dyno. You could be the first to have a 600sci converted to a 700...:D I like that part about limiting the peak torque to save the drive...:cool: |
Originally Posted by Pat McPherson
(Post 2023573)
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Originally Posted by t-islands
(Post 2024124)
Pat, I know I said I no more mods, done looking for more speed. Well with this announcement I will be stopping in at the Raylar booth on Thursday to talk to them.
IMO the first thing to do with your 496 is to modify or change your exhaust. Talk to Raylar about the CNC porting program they have for your existing manifolds and the testing they have done with the new Dana exhaust for the 496 engines. I believe that there is 30 to 50HP to be gain with exhaust mods/changes alone...:cool: Raylar seems to be the best source for upgrades on the new 496cube engines. |
I have been keeping an eye on the Dana exhaust, looks impressive. However I am skeptical that a base 496 will truly see 30 to 50 hp.
Heck, if I can get a couple more ponies and keep the transom clean with a slight ECM mod. I would be happy:cool: |
Originally Posted by t-islands
(Post 2024183)
I have been keeping an eye on the Dana exhaust, looks impressive. However I am skeptical that a base 496 will truly see 30 to 50 hp.
Heck, if I can get a couple more ponies and keep the transom clean with a slight ECM mod. I would be happy:cool: http://www.offshoreonly.com/forums/s...d.php?t=150193 I changed to Stainless Marine manifolds from the cast iron exhaust on my 310HP/7.4MPI the second year I had my boat. I saw a 200rpm and 2mph increases with the same prop. That was probably 25-30HP. Your engine has better exhaust stock than that one did though. |
Originally Posted by Pat McPherson
(Post 2024016)
For Sure...
I'm assuming your engine builder has a dyno. You could be the first to have a 600sci converted to a 700...:D I like that part about limiting the peak torque to save the drive...:cool: |
Originally Posted by Pat McPherson
(Post 2024213)
Well T, Dana is claiming +48HP for the 375HP 496Mag and +43HP for the 425HP 496MagHO on the dyno at Raylar...
http://www.offshoreonly.com/forums/s...d.php?t=150193 I changed to Stainless Marine manifolds from the cast iron exhaust on my 310HP/7.4MPI the second year I had my boat. I saw a 200rpm and 2mph increases with the same prop. That was probably 25-30HP. Your engine has better exhaust stock than that one did though. |
Originally Posted by t-islands
(Post 2024308)
Pat, you are always a wealth of good information.
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Originally Posted by Superbabi
(Post 2024351)
Yes he is, Pat is the OFFICAL, GO TO GUY !!!!!!!
We have a great hobby and it is lots of fun to spend someone else's money...:D |
Originally Posted by Pat McPherson
(Post 2025344)
it is lots of fun to spend someone else's money...:D
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Originally Posted by Pat McPherson
(Post 2025532)
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Originally Posted by Pat McPherson
(Post 2024159)
We are never done looking for more speed...:D
IMO the first thing to do with your 496 is to modify or change your exhaust. Talk to Raylar about the CNC porting program they have for your existing manifolds and the testing they have done with the new Dana exhaust for the 496 engines. I believe that there is 30 to 50HP to be gain with exhaust mods/changes alone...:cool: Raylar seems to be the best source for upgrades on the new 496cube engines. I believe CMI has headers for a 496, which boost HP by 60. Raylar has aluminum heads for a 496 along with a cam and a few other goodies. Their claiming something like 575 with their full package. Who's the guy up the Hudson who whippled his 496. Did 81 out of the box, and after dialing in does 84. Thats cool for a 496. And that motor has been running for a few years. |
Originally Posted by FX10
(Post 2025717)
Who's the guy up the Hudson who whippled his 496. Did 81 out of the box, and after dialing in does 84. Thats cool for a 496. And that motor has been running for a few years.
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Gary, your right, it was Cary. Where is he ? Wish he was on here.
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Originally Posted by FX10
(Post 2025945)
Gary, your right, it was Cary. Where is he ? Wish he was on here.
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I don't know about 600. But I'm sure it's in the 500's
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Originally Posted by Pat McPherson
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Originally Posted by Superbabi
(Post 2026654)
Pat my friend is down in Miami for the boat show, he is gonna check out the Raylar booth ( pcm upgrades ) forr the 600 sci. Also just got off the phone with the motor builder in Florida to get in touch with the Raylar people to see what can be done !!!!!! :D
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Pat, looks like its not gonna happen anytime soon ( 600 ecm upgrades )my friend spoke with him ( Ralyar ) at the miami boat show yesterday and it seems there still a couple of months away from there goal for correct upgrades, and my motor will be back by then from the builder, looks like a next year project. But then again you never know......................:D
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Originally Posted by Superbabi
(Post 2028878)
Pat, looks like its not gonna happen anytime soon ( 600 ecm upgrades )my friend spoke with him ( Ralyar ) at the miami boat show yesterday and it seems there still a couple of months away from there goal for correct upgrades, and my motor will be back by then from the builder, looks like a next year project. But then again you never know......................:D
You don't necessarily want to be the ginnipig...:cool: Let's just hope what ever upgrades they come up with can be done without pulling the engine...:drink: |
anythig new with the motor up grades
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Originally Posted by SuperTramp
(Post 2041778)
anythig new with the motor up grades
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Gary you should see about 3-4 mph for every pound of boost upgrade as long as you stay of the chip.
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We don't know if the computer will let it fly. The computer is set to 4.5 lbs of boost. With a smaller pully and more boost, will the computer allow the extra boost ?? I guess we'll find out. I hope it works. It would certainly be nice having Superbabi doing close to 90. ;)
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Originally Posted by FX10
(Post 2043402)
It would certainly be nice having Superbabi doing close to 90. ;)
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Originally Posted by Superbabi
(Post 2044073)
Thats a real nice thought Rick !!!!!!
Gary the 90 MPH mark has Superbabi written all over it! |
Hey superbabi,did they dyno your 600,I am just interested what it makes stock, I know merc 525 makes 550-560 on most dynos,I have dyno tested merc hp500 carb and merc 500efi and they make around 500 on my dyno,the efi maybe a little more 5-10.Mecury racing probably has that motor close to 600-625 crankshaft hp because they have to warranty outdrive.700-725hp should fall out of that engine with about 7lb boost.Just need to add enough fuel and try to get coolant temp down if possible,need to re-program boost bypass .I am surprised that Dustin whipple or Arizona speed-marine have not come up with a kit yet.A moac intercooler would help also, but they are very expensive.
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Originally Posted by MDGperformance
(Post 2046082)
Hey superbabi,did they dyno your 600,I am just interested what it makes stock, I know merc 525 makes 550-560 on most dynos,I have dyno tested merc hp500 carb and merc 500efi and they make around 500 on my dyno,the efi maybe a little more 5-10.Mecury racing probably has that motor close to 600-625 crankshaft hp because they have to warranty outdrive.700-725hp should fall out of that engine with about 7lb boost.Just need to add enough fuel and try to get coolant temp down if possible,need to re-program boost bypass .I am surprised that Dustin whipple or Arizona speed-marine have not come up with a kit yet.A moac intercooler would help also, but they are very expensive.
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I know how you feel Gary and I'm not even in the water yet... LOL
You'll have to clear a weekend in May so you can show me around the water ways there. I'm thinking the shake down runs will be sometime around then!!! |
We hope to splash mid april Rob, give me a call when your around again. We are looking to have a SUPERBOAT PARTY at the shore !!!!! :drink: :drink: :drink:
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Good deal Gary.. the plan is to run around out there for a few days before the long haul home!!
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:D Just got the call, motor is back from the builder, and ready for another couple of hundred hours of hard use !!!!! :D :D :D
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Originally Posted by Superbabi
(Post 2072619)
:D Just got the call, motor is back from the builder, and ready for another couple of hundred hours of hard use !!!!!
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Originally Posted by krakmeup
(Post 2072624)
Cool!! Details on what all you had done?
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Originally Posted by Superbabi
(Post 2072619)
:D Just got the call, motor is back from the builder, and ready for another couple of hundred hours of hard use !!!!! :D :D
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