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FASTERDAMITT 10-11-2005 06:42 PM

Re: My next boat: Y2k!
 

Originally Posted by Superbabi
$$$ 100 for a 2-3 mph gain seems like a great deal. I thought the 5 blade hydromotive was the way to go ???

When he took my current slip #'s, speed and drive height, he said the five blade will not be worth the extra expense. The five was designed for a semi surfacing situation. I don't think that's the case on our boats.
Get this. You can't compare same pitch with 4 to 5 blade. So If you best cruise at 3500 with a 28 five blade is say 55mph then you would buy a 29 or 30 four blade and have same cruise numbers. And for top speed the four blade should be 1 to 2 mph faster than a five. It made sense to me after I thought about it.
If you ran a extreemly high X dimmension, the five blade would begin to narrow the numbers slightly.

FASTERDAMITT 10-11-2005 06:44 PM

Re: My next boat: Y2k!
 

Originally Posted by Pure Energy
I ran the Hydro PX-5 26p and it was no good. I lost 7 mph off top end and about the same cruise. Compared to a Bravo 1 28

Here is a sample. Too much mass/drag for the engine to overcome with a deep drive. Maybe it wasn't the perfect prop for his boat?

FASTERDAMITT 10-11-2005 06:46 PM

Re: My next boat: Y2k!
 
Pat, I think a nosecone is worthless untill you are in the 80's. Some people are experiencing well over 5 mph in high speed applications. I just wonder how a Y2K will like it.

Pat McPherson 10-11-2005 07:52 PM

Re: My next boat: Y2k!
 

Originally Posted by Pure Energy
I ran the Hydro PX-5 26p and it was no good. I lost 7 mph off top end and about the same cruise. Compared to a Bravo 1 28

Strange result; both Jcap and Krackmeup had good results.
Oh-Zone is also dialing in with a 5 blade Hydro...

I guess if your slip numbers are good with the 4 blade and the boat runs nice and stable, no need to go to a 5 blade.

Every boat is different, so testing is the only way to know for sure.

Pat McPherson 10-11-2005 09:31 PM

Re: My next boat: Y2k!
 

Originally Posted by FASTERDAMITT
Pat, I think a nosecone is worthless untill you are in the 80's. Some people are experiencing well over 5 mph in high speed applications. I just wonder how a Y2K will like it.

I have heard the same. The newer Bravo drives are vary hydrodynamic. Many say that the sportmaster lower is slower than a stock lower until your get to speeds above 80.
My Donzi Minx had an Alpha drive, and I tested with and without the nose cone. Is was about 2mph faster with the nose cone but only when it was faired in perfectly.
That boat only had about 300HP from a 350 and ran 65-67 tops.
What does a nose cone do?
Keep the prop from cavitating? Get "cleaner" water to the prop? Just reduce drag?
If you can test it without welding it on permanently it is definitely worth the $100. If you have to weld, ???

FASTERDAMITT 10-11-2005 11:36 PM

Re: My next boat: Y2k!
 
I would not weld it on without testing. I had one epoxied on my American Offshore but not sure of the brand since I did'nt install it. It was a pointed style, not the Hydromotive.

Superbabi 10-12-2005 04:55 AM

Re: My next boat: Y2k!
 
FASTER are you going to give the nose cone a test run any time soon ???

FASTERDAMITT 10-12-2005 01:10 PM

Re: My next boat: Y2k!
 
I'm wishing, but I don't have the boat yet. We tried Teague's oil cooler and it was almost good enough. We are having one made by Orca who is the company I used for the closed cooling system. I guess for the HP I got and what I paid I have to be paitent. Not too many 800hp 598ci engines non-blown, running closed cooling out there.

Superbabi 10-12-2005 01:28 PM

Re: My next boat: Y2k!
 
You have a nice long boating season, so you have time to still enjoy your SUPER Y !!!! Good Luck !!!!

FX10 10-12-2005 09:43 PM

Re: My next boat: Y2k!
 
Damn, I wish you were local. There's a local guy that makes them for every motor. Two day turnaround.
I won't be happy till I hear a HUNDRED !!!!

FASTERDAMITT 10-12-2005 10:12 PM

Re: My next boat: Y2k!
 
HUNDRED! There ya go FX. You heard it. :D I think it's going to take a nosecone and a labbed prop. :drink:

FX10 10-21-2005 07:33 PM

Re: My next boat: Y2k!
 
Tom,
You back in the water yet ??

FASTERDAMITT 10-22-2005 12:09 AM

Re: My next boat: Y2k!
 
Hey Rick, how ya been? I have not. I've been busy with other things. That's good though cause I'm still waiting for the custom oil cooler. I crashed hard over the bars on the dirt bike today. Bruised shoulder and knee cap. I was 3rd gear hammering a whoop section and sudenly the trail was washed out by the rains we had a couple days ago. I know these trails pretty good but sometimes mother nature changes course. Slammed the other side of the wash. Bike did ok except for the bars are bent and the forks tweeked a little. Glad I was wearing knee pads and body protection. I probably wouldn't have riddin home.

FX10 10-22-2005 12:34 PM

Re: My next boat: Y2k!
 
You need to rest Grasshopper. Then you need to get on the phone and find out why it's taking soo f#@%^ng long to make an oil cooler.

FASTERDAMITT 10-23-2005 08:35 PM

Re: My next boat: Y2k!
 
Even more sore today. Feel like I've been body slammed! :D I wonder why.

SUPERSTITIOUS 10-24-2005 09:43 AM

Re: My next boat: Y2k!
 
Ouch!!! seems as we get older these "incidents" seem to hurt more and more

FASTERDAMITT 10-24-2005 10:56 AM

Re: My next boat: Y2k!
 
Here's a few pics from my last trip in Havasu.
http://www2.hotboat.com/image_center...Superboat2.jpg
http://www2.hotboat.com/image_center...Superboat1.jpg
http://www2.hotboat.com/image_center.../478Super4.jpg
http://www2.hotboat.com/image_center...Superboat3.jpg

Superbabi 10-27-2005 05:27 PM

Re: My next boat: Y2k!
 
NICE RIDE !!!! AND WHO ARE YOUR GUESTS ON THE MOTOR HATCH ????? !!!!!!! :evilb: :evilb: :evilb:

FX10 10-27-2005 06:25 PM

Re: My next boat: Y2k!
 
Looking Good !!!

FASTERDAMITT 10-27-2005 06:56 PM

Re: My next boat: Y2k!
 

Originally Posted by Superbabi
NICE RIDE !!!! AND WHO ARE YOUR GUESTS ON THE MOTOR HATCH ????? !!!!!!! :evilb: :evilb: :evilb:

I didn't get thier names, but it was fun! :D The dark haired one lost her top, :evilb: then her boyfriend! :eek: :D

FX10 10-27-2005 06:59 PM

Re: My next boat: Y2k!
 
Tom,
Hows the oil cooler coming along ??

Superbabi 10-27-2005 07:01 PM

Re: My next boat: Y2k!
 

Originally Posted by FASTERDAMITT
I didn't get thier names, but it was fun! :D The dark haired one lost her top, :evilb: then her boyfriend! :eek: :D

Faster, I hear ya, WHO NEEDS THERE NAME !!!!! In that 1st photo.............that's one big SAND DUNE !!!!! :evilb:

FX10 10-27-2005 07:11 PM

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Who's da blond ?? ;)

FASTERDAMITT 11-18-2005 01:04 AM

Re: My next boat: Y2k!
 
OOPS! I forgot to respond. That's my boat Biotch's!

Anyway back to the top. I got the call today my boat is being water tested tomorrow. Short story, The oil cooler had to be custom mfg'd as you know. He also found the rear main seal leaking so he pulled the engine to replace it while it was there.
I received a call from a guy named BAB in northern Calif that wants a Y2k. He's coming down Saturday to check out Barely Legal.
FX, Get you marketing commission check yet? :drink: :drink: :drink:

Superbabi 11-18-2005 05:00 AM

Re: My next boat: Y2k!
 
good luck, keep us posted...........no matter what your boating..........the BIG CHILL is in the north east 32 as of now :(

FASTERDAMITT 11-30-2005 10:51 PM

Re: My next boat: Y2k!
 
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Finally home! Took er out to Lake Elsinore for a spin after I picked er up. Glass water this time of year. I can feel a little need for a better prop to carry the bow now. Never felt it in the normal water.
Tried a couple speed runs but just as I'm getting past 5500 I run out of lake. Could probably get more if I slam the throttle from the start, but I tend to baby the XR. Can sure feel the hull drag in the flat water. Time to send the prop out for a lab job.

Superbabi 12-01-2005 04:45 AM

Re: My next boat: Y2k!
 
Faster where did you get that cover ????

Pat McPherson 12-01-2005 06:36 AM

Re: My next boat: Y2k!
 

Originally Posted by FASTERDAMITT
Finally home! Took er out to Lake Elsinore for a spin after I picked er up. Glass water this time of year. I can feel a little need for a better prop to carry the bow now. Never felt it in the normal water.
Tried a couple speed runs but just as I'm getting past 5500 I run out of lake. Could probably get more if I slam the throttle from the start, but I tend to baby the XR. Can sure feel the hull drag in the flat water. Time to send the prop out for a lab job.

Faster,
I'm sure it's great to have her home now!
I feel that my stock 28p Bravo 1 gives less bow lift than my 26p that was labbed by Houston prop. The 28p break free quite early as I trim up and then the speed goes down. With my 26p, I can get the boat to stand on it's tail without breaking free. You may want to give Darin at Houston prop a call; that's where my 28p is going...

krakmeup 12-01-2005 06:38 AM

Re: My next boat: Y2k!
 
Faster - looking good!! I'm working now with Brett Anderson at bblades.com to get some bow lift, give him a call as he knows very well the Y2K!! I'm going to add a 1" drive spacer and do some runs to get good numbers, then he'll work out the slip numbers and suggest a prop. Team Loan Shark and DPTMotorsports hooked me up with him and I can't thank them enough - give him a call!!

Keith

Pat McPherson 12-01-2005 07:18 AM

Re: My next boat: Y2k!
 

Originally Posted by krakmeup
Faster - looking good!! I'm working now with Brett Anderson at bblades.com to get some bow lift, give him a call as he knows very well the Y2K!! I'm going to add a 1" drive spacer and do some runs to get good numbers, then he'll work out the slip numbers and suggest a prop. Team Loan Shark and DPTMotorsports hooked me up with him and I can't thank them enough - give him a call!!

Keith

Hmmm...
Hey Keith,
Have you ever talk to Houston Prop? He's in your back yard.
Zuper used Merc Racing in the past and has mentioned he would go to BBlades next time...

Pat McPherson 12-01-2005 10:48 AM

Re: My next boat: Y2k!
 

Originally Posted by Pat McPherson
Hmmm...
Hey Keith,
Have you ever talk to Houston Prop? He's in your back yard.
Zuper used Merc Racing in the past and has mentioned he would go to BBlades next time...

OH No, I just read some not so nice things about Houston Prop over on Prop Talk... :rolleyes:
I guess my prop will be going to BBlades too.

FASTERDAMITT 12-01-2005 04:47 PM

Re: My next boat: Y2k!
 

Originally Posted by Superbabi
Faster where did you get that cover ????

Garry, Here is what I posted when I bought it a few months ago. Real happy so far!

This is a universal cover keep in mind and for the price I could'nt be happier. I paid about $350 to my door!
http://www.coverquest.com/covers/boat/boatldetail.php

On the bottom of the page, click on boat covers. On the next page click on ( if your boats not listed click here). Next page click on (performance style boats) type PB. Click on your lenght 31.7 to 32.6'. Select inboard. I got the 100% polyester semi custom for $334. Free shipping and tie downs.

FASTERDAMITT 12-01-2005 04:51 PM

Re: My next boat: Y2k!
 
Pat, Keith, From what I have discovered, a labbed prop designed to carry the bow will allow you to keep your drive more level. Pushing, instead of lifting the boat. I think the right prop combined with a nose cone for my boat would be the hot ticket.

Superbabi 12-01-2005 05:20 PM

Re: My next boat: Y2k!
 
Tom I just paid 15 dollars a foot for shrink wrap that will be thrown away in 6 months, :( Do you think your cover would be good for winter storage in the north east with our snow loads ?????

FX10 12-01-2005 07:05 PM

Re: My next boat: Y2k!
 
Gary,
I was telling you about those covers a few months back. They're fine for winter storage. And will last for years. I wonder if Tom has a picture of his on his boat he can share with us.

Superbabi 12-01-2005 07:11 PM

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Rick on the average shrinking is between 10-15 $$ per foot, even if lasted 3 years I would be ahead.... Tom could you snap a few more photos of your cover, and of course your Y2K...... Thanks Gary

Pat McPherson 12-01-2005 07:27 PM

Re: My next boat: Y2k!
 

Originally Posted by Superbabi
Tom I just paid 15 dollars a foot for shrink wrap that will be thrown away in 6 months, :( Do you think your cover would be good for winter storage in the north east with our snow loads ?????

Holy crap G, that's expensive... :eek:
I bought a roll of 24' by 120' shrink wrap last week for $115. Of course, you have to have the heat gun/torch to do the job.
Most places charge $10 per foot here...

I just checked out those covers faster gave us the link to. I believe they would work if you could have a couple of poles holding it up in the cockpit area...

Faster,
Being that our boats are much narrower than the norm, do the semi custom covers fit well enough to trailer?

Superbabi 12-01-2005 07:45 PM

Re: My next boat: Y2k!
 
Pat thats quite a large roll 24' by 120' for $115..........what a mark up at the marina :( what do you do with all the extra ???

Pat McPherson 12-01-2005 08:04 PM

Re: My next boat: Y2k!
 

Originally Posted by Superbabi
Pat thats quite a large roll 24' by 120' for $115..........what a mark up at the marina :( what do you do with all the extra ???

We covered 2 boats last weekend and the rest (60' or so) is sitting in my basement. I do plan to gift rap mine too, as soon as the fiberglass guy does his thing. For now, mine has a tarp over her... :rolleyes:

If Faster gives the thumbs up to trailering with one of those "semi-custom" covers, I'll be adding that to the X-mas list... :drink:

krakmeup 12-01-2005 08:54 PM

Re: My next boat: Y2k!
 
Hy Pat - sorry I couldn't respond sooner, I only check the forums late nights and early mornings these days.

Yeah, I wasn't going to mention the local prop guys, I like that bblades knows the Y2K intimately (Brett began telling me the config of the back of my hull!!) and Team Loan Shark and DPT convinced me he could help me most. I called JC today too, asking him about drive spacers, and even went and found jcaps' comments. My theory is, I know I'm gonna add weight in the cabin by finisihing the stereo install and some minor interior build, so bow lift will still be needed. So, I'm going to add the spacer and then prop accordingly, knowing I can adjust quite a bit thru props in the future. As we all know, this X and prop stuff is different for every boat/motor/drive combo, and everyone has an opinion. Me, I'm gonna simply try some and find what works best for mine, and let others know so they can use the info to help them with a starting point.

What I need now is some cool weather for speed runs - Saturday is supposed to be in the mid 80's here!!!! Guess where I'll be........:)


Originally Posted by Pat McPherson
OH No, I just read some not so nice things about Houston Prop over on Prop Talk... :rolleyes:
I guess my prop will be going to BBlades too.



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