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Old 02-13-2008 | 03:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Wobble
Sam wrote that in 2001 I think, doesn't change the fact that GM owns 60% to Isuzu's 40

Here is something a little more up to date

2/5/08

GM's press release below:

General Motors Corp. (GM) announced today an investment of $69 million in its DMAX plant in Moraine to manufacture a new Duramax 6.6-liter V-8 turbo diesel engine that will meet stringent emissions standards in 2010. DMAX Limited is a joint venture between GM and Isuzu Motors Limited and was established as a diesel engine company in 1998.
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DMAX produced its one millionth Duramax diesel engine.

Great info Mark....another great thing about the D-max is that it is paired the the awesome Allison trans too!!
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Old 02-13-2008 | 04:48 PM
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Here my duramax. My tojo also has a izsuz diesel I mean duramax in it. It gets 36 mpg down hill 65 on the floor. Wont get out of its own way.
Got to get a duramax sticker for it.
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Old 02-13-2008 | 05:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Wobble
Sam wrote that in 2001 I think, doesn't change the fact that GM owns 60% to Isuzu's 40

Here is something a little more up to date

2/5/08

GM's press release below:

General Motors Corp. (GM) announced today an investment of $69 million in its DMAX plant in Moraine to manufacture a new Duramax 6.6-liter V-8 turbo diesel engine that will meet stringent emissions standards in 2010. DMAX Limited is a joint venture between GM and Isuzu Motors Limited and was established as a diesel engine company in 1998.

The investment includes renovations to the plant, new machinery and tooling to support manufacturing of the new diesel engine. Renovations are expected to begin immediately. As a result of the investment, the DMAX plant will retain over 1,000 jobs.

"GM is transforming its committed to continuing to product portfolio to reduce fuel consumption and emissions across its portfolio and around the world., and the 2010 Duramax diesel is an integral part of that transformation, as well as a component of GM's strategy to diversify vehicle energy sources," said John Buttermore, GM Powertrain vice president of global manufacturing. "This new investment demonstrates GM's commitment to continue to invest in technologies that reduce the impact of our vehicles on the environment, while maintaining performance attributes required by customers in the areas of towing and hauling loads."

Today's announcement brings GM's total investment in the State of Ohio to more than $1 billion over the last two years.

"Our investment in the DMAX joint venture is a significant vote of confidence in our employees and IUE-CWA Local 797, who have demonstrated their commitment and dedication to benchmark performance in safety, quality and efficiency required in today's competitive business climate," continued Buttermore. "This joint venture is one of GM’s great examples great example of what can be achieved with a successful global partnership and I extend my appreciation to the leadership of Isuzu for their commitment to the success of this operation."

Buttermore also thanked Ohio's leaders on the federal, state, county and local levels, including Ohio Governor Ted Strickland, Lt. Governor Lee Fisher and the Ohio Department of Development, Montgomery County Board of Commissioners and Moraine Mayor Leonard Johnson, for providing the business case to support GM's investments in Ohio.

"General Motors' continuing investment in its Ohio manufacturing base demonstrates the strength of our partnership and Ohio's competitive business climate," said Ohio Governor Ted Strickland. "I commend GM for investing in our state and the technologies that put Ohio at the forefront of clean vehicle manufacturing."

The 2010 model year 6.6-liter V-8 Duramax diesel will use a selective catalytic reduction NOx after-treatment system with a diesel particulate filter to help achieve the 2010 Tier 2 Bin 5 and LEV 2 emissions standards, and it will be compliant in all 50 states.

GM first introduced the Duramax diesel in the U.S. in the 2001 model year, and since then customer enthusiasm for this heavy-duty diesel has been outstanding. In fact, GM's heavy-duty pickup truck market share has jumped nearly tenfold in the seven years that Duramax engines have been offered.

The award-winning Duramax 6.6-liter V-8 is a four-valve high pressure common rail direct injection diesel currently equipped with a diesel particulate filter to meet the stringent 2007 emissions requirements. Available in GM's Chevrolet Silverado and GMC Sierra heavy-duty pickups, the engine delivers a segment-leading 365 horsepower (272 kW) and 660 lb.-ft. of torque (895 Nm). It is also offered with increased power and torque for the Chevy Kodiak and GMC TopKick medium-duty applications. Versions are available with 300 horsepower and 520 lb.-ft of torque, as well as a new 330-horsepower option with 620 lb.-ft. of torque. The Duramax is also available in GM's full-size vans, Chevrolet Express and GMC Savana.

In the DMAX joint venture with Isuzu Motors Ltd., GM owns 60 percent and Isuzu 40 percent. The 584,000-square foot DMAX plant employs 1,195 hourly and salaried employees with annual production near 200,000 engines. Hourly employees are represented by the IUE-CWA Local 797. In April 2007, DMAX produced its one millionth Duramax diesel engine.

BLAH BLAH BLAH....Whatever!!
Powerstroke Rules!!!
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Old 02-13-2008 | 08:04 PM
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hehehe you funny . hook that durachock to a cummins and see what happins . your ifs will bust in to peices .
While I can admit I would prefer a solid front axle, every other aspect of the truck is better IMO than the other two. Dodge apparently likes to stick with their 4 speed transmission, when ford and chevy both have 5 and 6 speeds. New dodge 6 speed is nice, but 6.7 have been having issues, not to mention its very different from its predecessor. Then theres the whole dodge part. The trucks just do not hold up as well as ford or chevy. Just look at whats left on the road, my 2000 ford is superior to the dodge.

Ford makes a damn nice truck, heavy duty solid work truck. The problem is the 6.0l, and now 6.4 have issues. International's vt365 runs great, ford's power stroke version has problems, mainly due to ford's trying to get more power out of them than they should. The vt365 does have VGT problems like the 6.0l.

Now the duramax has injector issues till 2004.5, then very rare but highly publicized over heating problems in the lly (04.5-05), and practically no issues with the current LBZ or lmm. The new emissions power plant is very similar to the previous model year, to the point where removing the DPF and adding a chip gives you an 06. However, it is illegal. Even stock they run great.
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Old 02-14-2008 | 08:53 AM
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Originally Posted by spilman
BLAH BLAH BLAH....Whatever!!
Powerstroke Rules!!!
THANK YOU I agree
Enough with all the rice burner propaganda. Have you driven a Ford lately.
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Old 02-14-2008 | 09:53 AM
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Originally Posted by BDARCHER
GM didnt need isuzu for the help. They own Detroit diesel.
Really? They must have recently bought it back from the Germans over at Daimler who bought it from Penske years ago.

Oh, and GM doesn't own Allison anymore either.

http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do...ticleId=121479

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BLAH BLAH BLAH....Whatever!!
Powerstroke Rules!!!
Which Powerstroke would that be? The 7.3? The 6.0? The 6.4???

Personally, I'd go with the 7.3 as it was a much better engine than the ones that followed. The standard heated tailgate option on the latter models should be a dead giveaway.

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Old 02-14-2008 | 09:32 PM
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Originally Posted by jordy
Really? They must have recently bought it back from the Germans over at Daimler who bought it from Penske years ago.

Oh, and GM doesn't own Allison anymore either.

http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do...ticleId=121479



Which Powerstroke would that be? The 7.3? The 6.0? The 6.4???

Personally, I'd go with the 7.3 as it was a much better engine than the ones that followed. The standard heated tailgate option on the latter models should be a dead giveaway.
All THREE! I have put a million miles combined on all 3; 99' F350-7.3, 00' F550-7.3, 05' F350-6.0, 08' F350-6.4; all trucks have never had a problem and still pull the snot out of anything I hook up to. My F550 w/a mild chip has weighed in @ the scales at 28k, full of roofing debris. My 08' is so quiet, smooth & unbelievably comfortable hauling over 15k; I am very satisfied with all the PSD's.
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Old 02-16-2008 | 11:31 AM
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chevys are for pickle smoochers......
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Old 02-17-2008 | 09:26 AM
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chevys are for pickle smoochers......
SO YOU MUST HAVE A WHOLE GARAGE FULL THEN!
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Old 02-17-2008 | 10:00 AM
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I think we will bicker over the toyota chevy dodge and ford then nissian next. With the rice lovers. Still I think an izsuz motor in an american icon chevy truck. IS AN EMBARRASSMENT and a slap in the face to the american worker and the american public.
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