C6 with NPP exhaust (dual mode) is 436 HP. ZR1 is 638HP.

mt. clemens dodge in michigan is selling for sticker. All colors in stock, picked mine up tues. Ask for paul 586 246 8122. Tell him Ronnie from the flight club sent ya!

Chuuuuuuuuuuuckie !!!!!!! whats happenin bro ? Rocky are you and Chuck giving us bottom feeding car guys a bad rep again...lmfao. Unless your in the car biz as the 3 of us are (Chuck, Rocky and myself) they just dont know. I've been in it for lil over 20 years, started with the franchised dealers, worked every facet...detailing, parts, service then into sales, sales mgmt, finance etc...left the new car biz 8 years ago and have been running a 30 year old family owned independent lot since. Wholesale and retail month in and month out we move 85-110 units...retail usually runs between 20-30 and wholesale makes up the difference. The thing that cracks me up still is the guy thats been to your place looking at a specific car 3-4 times, has done all of his research then says whats my trade worth, you ask him what he wants for it and he says well BLUE BOOK VALUE is XXXX...ok Mr Professional Shopper so Kelly Blue Trade for your car is XXX and what was Kelly Blue Book for mine. Then the silence...WELL I DONT KNOW I DIDNT LOOK. THEN THE GAMES BEGIN !!! Because when i pull up Kelly Blue Book on my vehicle and its thousands more then im asking he turns into rainman.

i've been trying to find someone at Kelly Blue Book or Edmunds to write me checks for the 60+ vehicles i have in inventory for a looooooooooooong time but cant seem to find anyone willing to do so. So as said above an item is worth what someones willing to pay. The new car dealers are in a heap of trouble right now due to the current market conditions. They have one of the smallest ROI's (return on investment) of any other product on the market. I have a friend of mine that owns an appliance store. He makes more on a washer and dryer then dealers have made on a $30,000 vehicle. BUT THATS OK RIGHT ?!?! John Q Public is finally realizing that it just doesnt pay to buy new cars!! There are plenty of current model pre-owned's available and you can save thousands on those. But for those that HAVE TO HAVE NEW or HAVE TO BE THE FIRST KID ON THE BLOCK godbless ya...im just glad im not one of those. I sat with a guy the other day who buys a NEW car every 3 years...had he purchased a 1 year old car every 3 years his 4th one almost would have been FREE...do the math its not rocket science

Hey Bern what's going on? Where you been? Chuck & I could have used you in here. Nah, just messin' with you.

Anyway, we were basically just stating some facts on the slim profit margins on new vehicles. Then the Challengers came out and dealers were getting over list for them, because you know how it is, there's always those people who have to be the first to get one and pay tons of money for them.

I exported an Orange Challenger to Canada for $50k a couple of weeks ago. Now, 2 weeks later, I can sell the same car for $46k. As I said, they all come down eventually.

How about this one?

Sold! Sold! Sold!

On it's way to Raleigh, NC

Preach on Bernie.

I sell Nissans... 8 years in the biz.

If you want the latest, greatest, now... You pay. Period.


If you are willing to wait, fine. Wait.

That's the nice thing about shopping for a car, you don't have to buy it. It's not GREED. If you guys that aren't in the business saw how many people come in here trying to buy GTR's for list so they can flip 'em and make $15000 cuz that's what the market is, your heads would spin.

Let me just say from personal experience (this morning no less) these hemi challengers are quick....time to up the HP on the old LS1 camaro!

Ronnie - which one you get? Drove by on my way to the boat the other day and saw four out front...the graphite looks sick.

Bring it on over to Champion one day and I'll break it in for ya!