What Do I Do With This 2008 F450?
06-29-2009, 09:03 PM
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The imports area all living on previous (and my opinion, media inflated) reputations. I recently had a service manager from a Honda shop tell me that he felt GM's quality was better than Honda's.
Everybody has their problems, but to issue a blanket statement that the imports are better is ignorance. Just more sheep following the media.
Do a google search on the Tundra adds, you will see how misleading their adds are.
Everybody has their problems, but to issue a blanket statement that the imports are better is ignorance. Just more sheep following the media.
Do a google search on the Tundra adds, you will see how misleading their adds are.
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06-29-2009, 10:36 PM
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The engineer tells me that the all new 6.7 coming next year will be built by Ford and will have around 400 hp and 700 ft. lbs of tq and has addressed all of the problems of the previous motors. I sure hope he is right.
Interesting. Will it be for both light duty and medium duty trucks or just for the F450-750 series?
Interesting. Will it be for both light duty and medium duty trucks or just for the F450-750 series?
06-30-2009, 12:19 AM
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I am hoping they are dropping the stacked headlights too. I am holding out for a 2011 with my 06' 6.0 which has been trouble free until then.
BTW. FORD or nothin here
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06-30-2009, 07:17 AM
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The imports area all living on previous (and my opinion, media inflated) reputations. I recently had a service manager from a Honda shop tell me that he felt GM's quality was better than Honda's.
Everybody has their problems, but to issue a blanket statement that the imports are better is ignorance. Just more sheep following the media.
Do a google search on the Tundra adds, you will see how misleading their adds are.
Everybody has their problems, but to issue a blanket statement that the imports are better is ignorance. Just more sheep following the media.
Do a google search on the Tundra adds, you will see how misleading their adds are.
Tundras in 07/08 were droppring trannys like no tomorrow if you towed anything of size , the gentlemen truck buyers who haul bark chips never had a problem .
06-30-2009, 07:21 PM
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The imports area all living on previous (and my opinion, media inflated) reputations. I recently had a service manager from a Honda shop tell me that he felt GM's quality was better than Honda's.
Everybody has their problems, but to issue a blanket statement that the imports are better is ignorance. Just more sheep following the media.
Do a google search on the Tundra adds, you will see how misleading their adds are.
Everybody has their problems, but to issue a blanket statement that the imports are better is ignorance. Just more sheep following the media.
Do a google search on the Tundra adds, you will see how misleading their adds are.
I get sooooooo tired of seeing "Americans" making ignorant statements against OUR products/engineering/manufacturing with no actual knowledge of today's reality.
This particular situation is a bad example of one CSR and dealership doing all the wrong things. I hope they step up and resolve this.
06-30-2009, 07:37 PM
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I guess everyone has their story and different experience's with different manufacturers , but i have owned dodge's since 1995 , (5 brandnew 3500 single wheel cummins deisels )
but the last one i bought 2005 3500 single wheel cummins has been absolutely awsome plenty of power , and i tow absolutely every day , either a t-300 bobcat 10k lbs or a 337 excavator 12k lbs , so .... 73k mis later and not a single problem , and i am by no means easy on it .
i have heard alot of complaints about all makes and models but my experience with dodge has been very good over all , never been stranded , the worst break down i had was last year on the way to my house on sacandaga , the main carrier bearing for the front wheel started seizing up on the thruway right before amsterdam , i got to the dodge dealer on rte 30 just outside of amsterdam at 1pm they called all over got the bearing from another dealer 40mins away and also fixed a worn ball joint nearly busted front u-joint all by 5pm that same day , and got me a pick up truck loaner for the afternoon so i could continue to the house and drop the wife and kids off
and my home town dealer is just as good with service , loaners ect .
but the last one i bought 2005 3500 single wheel cummins has been absolutely awsome plenty of power , and i tow absolutely every day , either a t-300 bobcat 10k lbs or a 337 excavator 12k lbs , so .... 73k mis later and not a single problem , and i am by no means easy on it .
i have heard alot of complaints about all makes and models but my experience with dodge has been very good over all , never been stranded , the worst break down i had was last year on the way to my house on sacandaga , the main carrier bearing for the front wheel started seizing up on the thruway right before amsterdam , i got to the dodge dealer on rte 30 just outside of amsterdam at 1pm they called all over got the bearing from another dealer 40mins away and also fixed a worn ball joint nearly busted front u-joint all by 5pm that same day , and got me a pick up truck loaner for the afternoon so i could continue to the house and drop the wife and kids off
and my home town dealer is just as good with service , loaners ect .
06-30-2009, 08:32 PM
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With such a common problem Ford should be stepping up. Perhaps a different dealer is the answer. Seems like parts warranty should handle it.
Thanks rlj676, I tried to be carefull, I am not naturally tactfull. Americans supporting imports over domestic products are a large part of our economic problems. Everyone wants to bash GM (and now Ford for getting a loan) for being in trouble. The way I see it, they make a fantastic world class product and over pay their work force. Sounds downright evil. The imports cost as much or more and pay their employees far less. Where do you think the money goes? At least GM put the profits back in our economy.
OK I'm off my soap box, time for a cocktail.
Thanks rlj676, I tried to be carefull, I am not naturally tactfull. Americans supporting imports over domestic products are a large part of our economic problems. Everyone wants to bash GM (and now Ford for getting a loan) for being in trouble. The way I see it, they make a fantastic world class product and over pay their work force. Sounds downright evil. The imports cost as much or more and pay their employees far less. Where do you think the money goes? At least GM put the profits back in our economy.
OK I'm off my soap box, time for a cocktail.
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With such a common problem Ford should be stepping up. Perhaps a different dealer is the answer. Seems like parts warranty should handle it.
Thanks rlj676, I tried to be carefull, I am not naturally tactfull. Americans supporting imports over domestic products are a large part of our economic problems. Everyone wants to bash GM (and now Ford for getting a loan) for being in trouble. The way I see it, they make a fantastic world class product and over pay their work force. Sounds downright evil. The imports cost as much or more and pay their employees far less. Where do you think the money goes? At least GM put the profits back in our economy.
OK I'm off my soap box, time for a cocktail.
Thanks rlj676, I tried to be carefull, I am not naturally tactfull. Americans supporting imports over domestic products are a large part of our economic problems. Everyone wants to bash GM (and now Ford for getting a loan) for being in trouble. The way I see it, they make a fantastic world class product and over pay their work force. Sounds downright evil. The imports cost as much or more and pay their employees far less. Where do you think the money goes? At least GM put the profits back in our economy.
OK I'm off my soap box, time for a cocktail.
There's a reason nobody else is in the big truck market, it is not easy to make one that does what a 450 does for as long as they are built to. That's no excuse for what's happened here though.
06-30-2009, 10:54 PM
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All of the pro cummins posts I have read are for the 5.9(pre-2008) motor. The 6.7 has its fair share of problems, and the fuel economy has gone to sh*t compared to the 5.9, but the auto tranny has taken a quantum leap forward in the cummins 6.7.
I am not trying to bash the ford, but I know many poeple who haul heavy horse trailers and bought 450/550s, and many are having problems. I know of one on her third motor, try breaking down with a trailer full of 20-30k dollar horses. By the same token I know several with F250/350s that have been maintnance free. I think the low gearing and running the truck the same highway speed has something to do with it.
The Dmax/Allison combo had its problems for the first 3-4 years, but are trouble free now, the only problem is the independent front suspension, it sucks. The motor and tranny are awesome, just put it in a strait axle truck.
Every deisel out there has its compromises. I had a 7.3 for few years, Trouble free motor, but if you are used to towing with a newer diesel the power will be a let down, and the trannies suck too. Sure you can add power, but it will diminish life of a legendary high mileage truck, and your egts will be high when towing.
You want the perfect truck, 5.9 cummins with a allison tranny in a ford body.
I am not trying to bash the ford, but I know many poeple who haul heavy horse trailers and bought 450/550s, and many are having problems. I know of one on her third motor, try breaking down with a trailer full of 20-30k dollar horses. By the same token I know several with F250/350s that have been maintnance free. I think the low gearing and running the truck the same highway speed has something to do with it.
The Dmax/Allison combo had its problems for the first 3-4 years, but are trouble free now, the only problem is the independent front suspension, it sucks. The motor and tranny are awesome, just put it in a strait axle truck.
Every deisel out there has its compromises. I had a 7.3 for few years, Trouble free motor, but if you are used to towing with a newer diesel the power will be a let down, and the trannies suck too. Sure you can add power, but it will diminish life of a legendary high mileage truck, and your egts will be high when towing.
You want the perfect truck, 5.9 cummins with a allison tranny in a ford body.
07-01-2009, 12:15 AM
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All of the pro cummins posts I have read are for the 5.9(pre-2008) motor. The 6.7 has its fair share of problems, and the fuel economy has gone to sh*t compared to the 5.9, but the auto tranny has taken a quantum leap forward in the cummins 6.7.
I am not trying to bash the ford, but I know many poeple who haul heavy horse trailers and bought 450/550s, and many are having problems. I know of one on her third motor, try breaking down with a trailer full of 20-30k dollar horses. By the same token I know several with F250/350s that have been maintnance free. I think the low gearing and running the truck the same highway speed has something to do with it.
The Dmax/Allison combo had its problems for the first 3-4 years, but are trouble free now, the only problem is the independent front suspension, it sucks. The motor and tranny are awesome, just put it in a strait axle truck.
Every deisel out there has its compromises. I had a 7.3 for few years, Trouble free motor, but if you are used to towing with a newer diesel the power will be a let down, and the trannies suck too. Sure you can add power, but it will diminish life of a legendary high mileage truck, and your egts will be high when towing.
You want the perfect truck, 5.9 cummins with a allison tranny in a ford body.
I am not trying to bash the ford, but I know many poeple who haul heavy horse trailers and bought 450/550s, and many are having problems. I know of one on her third motor, try breaking down with a trailer full of 20-30k dollar horses. By the same token I know several with F250/350s that have been maintnance free. I think the low gearing and running the truck the same highway speed has something to do with it.
The Dmax/Allison combo had its problems for the first 3-4 years, but are trouble free now, the only problem is the independent front suspension, it sucks. The motor and tranny are awesome, just put it in a strait axle truck.
Every deisel out there has its compromises. I had a 7.3 for few years, Trouble free motor, but if you are used to towing with a newer diesel the power will be a let down, and the trannies suck too. Sure you can add power, but it will diminish life of a legendary high mileage truck, and your egts will be high when towing.
You want the perfect truck, 5.9 cummins with a allison tranny in a ford body.
Mine is a white 2006 quad cab dually with the G56 six speed manual and 3.73 rear end. Perfect match of the transmission gears and the rear end gear. I do wish I had the 68RFE though. I get awful tired of shifting this truck around town now that I'm not working.
Oh and for you Powerstroke guys;
www.fordcummins.com
