So then you're comparing two completely different engines. What the heck are you saying? Not making a lot of sense to me.

You said you worked there and you "knew" or "could find out". That info is really pretty useless.

Posting on a truck forum, common sense would suggest that everyone is talking about the engine that they can buy... Not some secret product that employees are privileged to.

I fail to see your point. I was simply asking for help or really asking for some factual info.

This changes the subject.

I know how you feel but I think the fuel savings of the Duramax Package over a gas package is a little over rated.

It works but you'd have to keep the truck for a long time. Lots of people don't but some do.

Duramax upgrade - 7K
Allison upgrade (no option) close to 3K

Even when I was driving 30K - 40K miles per year it takes a LOT of driving to spend that 10K in fuel alone and that same 10K obviously has to be over and above the same miles in gas.

I don't know; the diesel is way nicer than gas but I don't think the consumption is the best piece to debate.

However, If I could have bought a Yukon with the Duramax in 2004, I think I probably would have.

I don't have strong facts to back this but I'm told that the LB7 injectors have been modified and if you have them replaced now or in the recent past, you are getting a "fixed" part that should not fail the same as it has in the past.

Best thing to do is keep an eye on your balance rates about every 50K miles.

So you assume he knows less than you about the 6.6 because it's not his specific program.....which I clearly was going to check on?

I don't have to ask him anything or tell you squat. You're welcome then.

I never assumed anyone knows less than me about this truck. I don't know much at all to be honest. Never claimed to either.

I wanted info on the 6.6 and your wording wasn't exactly clear so no offense.

Sure can tell when winter hits around here.

PS - you don't have to tell me anything you don't want to.

Thanks anyway -

:kiss:

No,

I was a 7.3 fan, still am. My 06 Max has seen the dealer once in 120k miles for a sticky egr valve, best vehicle I have ever owned.

Accountant wants me to go buy a new truck to get the section 179, I am not ready to be done with this truck yet.

Not a good business decision:drink:

Haha, I'm in a pissy mood due to reading some GM nonsense by the tea-party types out there I guess.

I'll ask him the deal, on the 6.6 injectors. He works in Pontiac with durability testing, etc so I expect some good insight from him.

Agreed, I have a Duramax and like it but there is no savings over a gas truck with diesel priced where its been. Unless you tow a lot of heavy loads it is a net loss. I get around 15-16 daily driving empty, got about 14-15 with the last gas truck I owned. With diesel 20 cents higher than gas here you will never make up the difference much less the extra cost of the diesel package. I love it for towing, and will keep it for that and truck use but for now I drive the car daily.

i drive in the hill country and mountains in my big truck (cummins equiped 2010 pete with a 13spd), out east/west/north/south/hot/cold/rain/shine/etc etc, i have NEVER had a dodge keep up with me when pulling grades. Dmaxs and powerstrokes only. Im not biast (although I own a LBZ 4x4 dually) all 3 have their good and bad. get your head out of diamlers azz and open your eyes dude. The reason they buy dodges are because they are cheap trucks. Why pay more for something your going to abuse. same reason people buy freightliner (which dodge and frieghtliner are owned by the same people), its a cheap truck that will get the job done. just sayn

Yes but you have a Cummins right? And it's probly bigger than the light duty 5.9 right? 8.3L or thereabouts? What's your hp/tq rating, something like 500-550/1200-1400?

You are way behind the times with Daimler. They haven't been involved with Chrysler/Dodge in five years or so, so it looks like you're the one with your head up your ass.

Yes Rams are cheaper and they will get the job done. They also have the best diesel for long-term heavy hauling. Just sayin'.

And the one thing you absolutely can't seem to understand is that everything you read on the internet is not necessarily true just because someone put it there. There is no assurance that because you were able to find a link that it somehow makes it factual.

Respectfully, how many trucks have you owned? Driven? Towed with for long distance? How many repairs have you endured? How may sets of tires have you personally bought after extensive consideration and comparison based on actually using and wearing them out?

You defend your ideas (most that I've read) based solely on what you read and you base your opinion of a truck on the idea that you owned one at some point.

Have you ever owned or towed any trailer that could max out the vehicles ability? Have you ever towed anything across the country more than once? Have you ever owned a truck like what you're talking about long enough to see "major" repairs come due?

You always do the majority of the talking but respectfully I never see, hear, or read where you've done much "doing".

All 3 of those trucks in question have some pretty serious issues when you crunch the purchase prices, maintenance and failures. Yeah, believe it or not, Dodge/Cummins pickups actually have some pretty big caveats. One that comes to mind is the fact that unless you buy the standard, you're gonna put a pretty expensive transmission in that thing if you're doing any "REAL" towing. So what did you tow and for how long?

Hey no one is perfect but it's frustrating to have people like you always running the pie hole and you've never really done much of anything except get enjoyment out of using a keyboard to stir people up.

I've engaged you several times to debate a topic but you never really finish anything. As soon as it gets down to facts or experienced based discussion, you're gone because you apparently have none.

So what's the deal? You owned a truck and you liked it so it's more powerful than anything else?

Personal feelings aside, over the last two to three years, you've destroyed any credibility you ever had with anything but you keep coming back as if to imply that anyone who reads your posts would ever care about anything you say.

Everyone here already knows that you think the Dodge is the best truck ever. No problem. Why keep up with the reminders? No one cares. It's a lonely world.

Aren't you old enough by now to be able to share experience rather than repeating what you read or what someone told you?

I don't know man. Just sayin'.

Now feel free to come back on the attack and call me to the carpet. I'll be honest.