We have weighed are 3 trucks, and there is a 348 pound difference between the 3/4 tons. The power and torque is close at all rpms, even though the advertised hp/tq is less on the GM, its still lighter, and feels its about 90-95% of the Ford when it comes to substantial mass. The pro's are its easier to get in to, and feels a little more athletic. Line the two trucks right next to each other and you will see what Im talking about...I like both trucks, and am not brand loyal. A truck to us is not meant to be a drag car..but we do have fun from time to time. Yes we have put them side by side, (not seat of the pants) from like 20 to 70 mph towing..We never do it off the line cause the tires just spin and we are not into ruining our equipment. The Ford is quicker the majority of the time...TOWING....its really a matter of who's truck downshifts into second quicker and gets the jump...but we are only talking about a 1/2 truck length. When not towing the GM is quicker. As to the ride, I was not clear, the ride when towing is better on the Ford, and so is the control of the weight be shifted less. Brakes, and jake brake as well as looks go to the GM. Ford wins in better materials, comfort and conviences in the interior. As to the engineer stating what he stated....none of the tests are done at sea level...that leaves me to believe that the GM's turbo is more effecient...this has also been mentioned on the diesel boards. Again I buy what works for towing..Both these trucks are so close and its nice to get to drive both and experience what Im talking about...the F250 has allready 49k the 2500 GMC has 12k and the F350 has 14k. Im waiting to see what the Ram has in store for 2012..Jeff

Thanks for the explanation. I think your insight on all the different trucks you get experience with is great for the board!

In the tow "races" I think the transmission definitely comes into play as well and how it's calibrated, along with the weight of the load. I believe in the original pickuptrucks.com tow test the GM won, but with a different load and the old Ford tune.

I'm glad the new GM frame is updated and much stronger without gaining quite as much weight as the Ford's. Those things are heavy!

This new GMC is much nicer in many ways vs prev. generations...does not feel just like a heavy 1/2 ton anymore..or like our 2008 Duramax...to me GM for 11 is the most improved of the three..even the brakes and exhaust brake are better..GM did their homework..... It is still lighter when comparing apples to the 11 Ford, and I feel the xtra weight as well as a slightly better stability control system on the Ford controls the load better. I use to hate Ford, never would own one till the Chevy dealer pissed me off.. I went down the street and bought one off the lot and drove it back around to his dealership..needless to say he went out of business due to his arrogance an unability to work with his clientel. The Allison tranny I believe like you stated is geared differently...If you take the two 3/4 tons, empty and put them side by side and floor it.. The Ford will spin its tires more vs the GMC...not good for a drag race...but at 20-70 the Ford does a slightly better job and almost tries to hold its own..but not quite there...unloaded....but when towing its the other the way around...slight advantages either way...and this again is where I live..sea level...which is way different than tests. The mileage non scientific is about .3 tenths between the two 3/4 ton's so its a tie to me in that department..To me its the deals I get between my friends that own the dealerships..We all live close by, party together and razz each other all in fun..Both great trucks..which means next year Ram will most likely be in the mix. BTW thank You. Jeff

I actually own both, however I will never buy another chevy/gmc. Our trucks pull trailers everyday and hands down the dodge is your best bet. We also own fords and would still choose the dodge.

What year and motors are in both..

Didn't the Ram just have a major update? Is there a new model coming out, can't find anything on the internet about it. My buddy has a 10' loaded mega cab, the new interior is finally there with gm/ford (god the previous interiors ducked so bad and were rattle traps), but they updated a ton of stuff from suspension to body mounts, the truck rides and drives so much better then his previous Mega Cab.

My Friend Just Bought A New Ford With The New Diesel And Its Been In The Shop More Times Than Carter Has Liver Pills,,,,They Cant Figure Out Why It Smokes So Bad,,,You Cant See The Cars Behind You Its So Bad,,They Changed Out A Bunch Of Parts And Still No Fix,,,Its Back Again,,, What A POS

obviously he may have gotten a lemon or seems they have an incompetent dealership, happens to all makes. I know quite a few people with the new Ford 6.7 including in my fam, and nobody has had problems. One of them already has around 30k miles.

And the heated steering wheel, Airconditioned seats, and different trim. There are differences and the $$ difference is very little when both are equiped the same.
You are also incorrect in the urea, Mine lasted over 6000 mi. That was all towing. It gives you multiple warning that you are getting low. Then when you run completely out it speed limits you to 55 mph, But doesn't affect your actual power. Meaning if you have a trailer, you will still be able to accelerate normally.
Ps: I love my 2011 Denali 3500, rides great and tows incredible.
Michael

my 11 F250 just turned 50k last week, and my 11 F350 and 11 GMC 3500 are around 13 and 14k...All 3 have been awesome..