Interesting post on the new 6.7 PSD
09-17-2011 | 07:07 AM
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Here in Central Illinois, where if a flake falls they cover the roads a 1/2" inch deep in salt, Dodge trucks rust the worst followed by Chevy and then Ford. I can see where my 2010 Ford will first start rusting as they apply no seam sealer on the insides of the doors where the outer skins fold over and attach to the inner part of the door. Salt and moisture will work their way into this seam. I always wash and dry my door jambs out but you are just postponing the inevitable.
09-19-2011 | 06:53 AM
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Heartbeat of America, Made in Mexico
I just bought my first Ford after over 25 years of GM products only. I bought a brand new F150 Lariat Crew after stopping by the local GMC/Chevy store (single lot) and not being able to find a single 1500 truck in ANY trim level or brand that was not made in Silag, Mexico. I looked at 40+ trucks from stripper white bench seat longbeds to 4WD SLT Crew Cabs and every one was Mexican made.
I currently own 3 GMC's (04 + 05 Sierra and a 09 Yukon SLT) all of which were made in America. My trouble free 03 2500 Duramax Crew w/173K miles got traded and it was made in Flint.
F150 was made in Dearborn and simply crushes the GM products. F150 has tri-coat pearl white paint, black leather buckets with heated and a/c seats, 20 inch wheels, power rear slider.....truck had an MSRP of 40,525 so it was loaded and is still missing 4WD/Sunroof/Navigation and I wanted/needed none of those. Truck is 3 weeks old and I have 2600 miles on it and love it.
I never even bothered a salesman at the GM lot, I wasn't going to buy a Mexican made truck. BTW all Dodge diesel trucks and all Toyota Tacomas are made in Mexico. Honda CRV, all VW Jettas and Beetles are Mexican as well.
Mexico is known for sh!tty beer, 3rd rate resort destinations and not one product is known for quality anything!
I just bought my first Ford after over 25 years of GM products only. I bought a brand new F150 Lariat Crew after stopping by the local GMC/Chevy store (single lot) and not being able to find a single 1500 truck in ANY trim level or brand that was not made in Silag, Mexico. I looked at 40+ trucks from stripper white bench seat longbeds to 4WD SLT Crew Cabs and every one was Mexican made.
I currently own 3 GMC's (04 + 05 Sierra and a 09 Yukon SLT) all of which were made in America. My trouble free 03 2500 Duramax Crew w/173K miles got traded and it was made in Flint.
F150 was made in Dearborn and simply crushes the GM products. F150 has tri-coat pearl white paint, black leather buckets with heated and a/c seats, 20 inch wheels, power rear slider.....truck had an MSRP of 40,525 so it was loaded and is still missing 4WD/Sunroof/Navigation and I wanted/needed none of those. Truck is 3 weeks old and I have 2600 miles on it and love it.
I never even bothered a salesman at the GM lot, I wasn't going to buy a Mexican made truck. BTW all Dodge diesel trucks and all Toyota Tacomas are made in Mexico. Honda CRV, all VW Jettas and Beetles are Mexican as well.
Mexico is known for sh!tty beer, 3rd rate resort destinations and not one product is known for quality anything!
09-19-2011 | 08:27 AM
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Ford has major manufacturing operations in Canada, Mexico, the United Kingdom, Germany, Turkey, Brazil, Argentina, Australia, the People's Republic of China, and several other countries, including South Africa where, following divestment during apartheid, it once again has a wholly owned subsidiary. Ford also has a cooperative agreement with Russian automaker GAZ.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Ford_factories
Looks like they make the 6.7 motor, the Ford Fiesta, Fusion, MKS and the F650/750 in Mexico currently.
09-19-2011 | 09:41 AM
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You are correct. I knew the F650 was made there and I googled it and found:
Ford has major manufacturing operations in Canada, Mexico, the United Kingdom, Germany, Turkey, Brazil, Argentina, Australia, the People's Republic of China, and several other countries, including South Africa where, following divestment during apartheid, it once again has a wholly owned subsidiary. Ford also has a cooperative agreement with Russian automaker GAZ.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Ford_factories
Looks like they make the 6.7 motor, the Ford Fiesta, Fusion, MKS and the F650/750 in Mexico currently.
Ford has major manufacturing operations in Canada, Mexico, the United Kingdom, Germany, Turkey, Brazil, Argentina, Australia, the People's Republic of China, and several other countries, including South Africa where, following divestment during apartheid, it once again has a wholly owned subsidiary. Ford also has a cooperative agreement with Russian automaker GAZ.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Ford_factories
Looks like they make the 6.7 motor, the Ford Fiesta, Fusion, MKS and the F650/750 in Mexico currently.
09-19-2011 | 10:00 AM
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09-20-2011 | 03:28 PM
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After having the pleasure of driving my friends 2011 F350 to NC and back from MI two weeks (half the trip towing 12,500lbs) ago I can without a doubt say that my next truck will be a Ford. I have never been a Ford guy and admittedly laughed at all the issues they had with the diesels since they moved from the 7.3... but the new truck amazed me. The amount of technology available and the transmission/engine combo are impressive to say the least. I'm on my second Dodge (had a second gen and now a third w/ 5.9l) and after being disappointed that the truck was still a complete turd even after having 7 years between the two to fix obvious problems- I'm done. Legendary motor tied to a garbage transmission and wrapped in a poorly engineered and even more-poorly-built chassis. The truck I drove down to NC spends the majority of its time being beaten in the oil and gas fields of northern michigan to the tune of 25k miles already (he's had it for less than 9 months) and the only thing it's been back to the shop for is oil changes. For comparison- my '06 Dodge 2500 spends the majority of time on the road/highway and pulling my boats... it now has 49K miles and has already had all 4 ball joints replaced, new axle u-joints, new steering box, new upper and lower intermediate steering shafts, new trac bar and a new tie-rod and drag link.... not to mention a 1K computer that Dodge so wisely replaced the fuse box with.... instead of popping a $.25 fuse.... you have to replace a whole computer 
Anyways... I'll get off my soapbox now, but regardless of what the troll under the bridge says- I think Ford got it right this time.
Anyways... I'll get off my soapbox now, but regardless of what the troll under the bridge says- I think Ford got it right this time.
09-20-2011 | 03:32 PM
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After having the pleasure of driving my friends 2011 F350 to NC and back from MI two weeks (half the trip towing 12,500lbs) ago I can without a doubt say that my next truck will be a Ford. I have never been a Ford guy and admittedly laughed at all the issues they had with the diesels since they moved from the 7.3... but the new truck amazed me. The amount of technology available and the transmission/engine combo are impressive to say the least. I'm on my second Dodge (had a second gen and now a third w/ 5.9l) and after being disappointed that the truck was still a complete turd even after having 7 years between the two to fix obvious problems- I'm done. Legendary motor tied to a garbage transmission and wrapped in a poorly engineered and even more-poorly-built chassis. The truck I drove down to NC spends the majority of its time being beaten in the oil and gas fields of northern michigan to the tune of 25k miles already (he's had it for less than 9 months) and the only thing it's been back to the shop for is oil changes. For comparison- my '06 Dodge 2500 spends the majority of time on the road/highway and pulling my boats... it now has 49K miles and has already had all 4 ball joints replaced, new axle u-joints, new steering box, new upper and lower intermediate steering shafts, new trac bar and a new tie-rod and drag link.... not to mention a 1K computer that Dodge so wisely replaced the fuse box with.... instead of popping a $.25 fuse.... you have to replace a whole computer Anyways... I'll get off my soapbox now, but regardless of what the troll under the bridge says- I think Ford got it right this time.
Anyways... I'll get off my soapbox now, but regardless of what the troll under the bridge says- I think Ford got it right this time.I'm still waiting to find one for $35K, however.
09-20-2011 | 06:20 PM
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09-20-2011 | 06:24 PM
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After having the pleasure of driving my friends 2011 F350 to NC and back from MI two weeks (half the trip towing 12,500lbs) ago I can without a doubt say that my next truck will be a Ford. I have never been a Ford guy and admittedly laughed at all the issues they had with the diesels since they moved from the 7.3... but the new truck amazed me. The amount of technology available and the transmission/engine combo are impressive to say the least. I'm on my second Dodge (had a second gen and now a third w/ 5.9l) and after being disappointed that the truck was still a complete turd even after having 7 years between the two to fix obvious problems- I'm done. Legendary motor tied to a garbage transmission and wrapped in a poorly engineered and even more-poorly-built chassis. The truck I drove down to NC spends the majority of its time being beaten in the oil and gas fields of northern michigan to the tune of 25k miles already (he's had it for less than 9 months) and the only thing it's been back to the shop for is oil changes. For comparison- my '06 Dodge 2500 spends the majority of time on the road/highway and pulling my boats... it now has 49K miles and has already had all 4 ball joints replaced, new axle u-joints, new steering box, new upper and lower intermediate steering shafts, new trac bar and a new tie-rod and drag link.... not to mention a 1K computer that Dodge so wisely replaced the fuse box with.... instead of popping a $.25 fuse.... you have to replace a whole computer Anyways... I'll get off my soapbox now, but regardless of what the troll under the bridge says- I think Ford got it right this time.
Anyways... I'll get off my soapbox now, but regardless of what the troll under the bridge says- I think Ford got it right this time.Last edited by Catmando; 09-20-2011 at 06:28 PM.
