tundra and silverado/denali 6.2 owners
06-21-2012, 09:43 AM
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If you want to find out which truck has better this and that, you need to pay the small fee, and go to consumer reports. All you will get here is brand loyalty banter and bickering. All trucks have good and bad, you just have to decide what bad points you want to live with day to day. Again consumer reports is the only unbiased info you will get. good luck with your purchase.
06-21-2012, 11:11 AM
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If you want to find out which truck has better this and that, you need to pay the small fee, and go to consumer reports. All you will get here is brand loyalty banter and bickering. All trucks have good and bad, you just have to decide what bad points you want to live with day to day. Again consumer reports is the only unbiased info you will get. good luck with your purchase.
What they say about stats and data, that 70% of it can be disproved.
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06-21-2012, 12:29 PM
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Like I posted in the other thread.
I've got a yukon Denali, which I believe has the same drivetrain as the Sierra Denali. Plenty of power! I just upgraded my brakes too, and that really helped. Mine has 84k miles and no issues.
The 6.2 Silverados and Non Denali Sierras are what I've been eyeing. Drove a Silverado a little over a week ago, and it too has plenty of power.
One question I have...Is the tranny the same in the 6.2 Silverado and 6.2 Denali's?
I know the Silverado/Sierra 6.2's are rated for 10700 where the Denali's are 9000 ish.
I've got a yukon Denali, which I believe has the same drivetrain as the Sierra Denali. Plenty of power! I just upgraded my brakes too, and that really helped. Mine has 84k miles and no issues.
The 6.2 Silverados and Non Denali Sierras are what I've been eyeing. Drove a Silverado a little over a week ago, and it too has plenty of power.
One question I have...Is the tranny the same in the 6.2 Silverado and 6.2 Denali's?
I know the Silverado/Sierra 6.2's are rated for 10700 where the Denali's are 9000 ish.
06-21-2012, 12:42 PM
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Like I posted in the other thread.
I've got a yukon Denali, which I believe has the same drivetrain as the Sierra Denali. Plenty of power! I just upgraded my brakes too, and that really helped. Mine has 84k miles and no issues.
The 6.2 Silverados and Non Denali Sierras are what I've been eyeing. Drove a Silverado a little over a week ago, and it too has plenty of power.
One question I have...Is the tranny the same in the 6.2 Silverado and 6.2 Denali's?
I know the Silverado/Sierra 6.2's are rated for 10700 where the Denali's are 9000 ish.
I've got a yukon Denali, which I believe has the same drivetrain as the Sierra Denali. Plenty of power! I just upgraded my brakes too, and that really helped. Mine has 84k miles and no issues.
The 6.2 Silverados and Non Denali Sierras are what I've been eyeing. Drove a Silverado a little over a week ago, and it too has plenty of power.
One question I have...Is the tranny the same in the 6.2 Silverado and 6.2 Denali's?
I know the Silverado/Sierra 6.2's are rated for 10700 where the Denali's are 9000 ish.
06-22-2012, 03:30 AM
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And by double wide you mean low quality stuff, sub standard parts that break easy......The big three are making the "double wides". I hear the windows are the worst part of a double wide, GM can't figure out how to keep the windows working in their trucks. Don't worry though, every parts store has the regulator, and a rivet gun you can rent to replace it. You think advance auto parts has a window motor for any toyota?? nope, I guess you are right...GM is better for the economy, in the form of aftermarket parts....BTW, those parts are made in china lol
You guys can knock the looks of my truck if it doesn't suit you, design, interior layout.....I'll give you that it's a matter of opinion. But for you to make a statement that a GM anything is higher quality is just laughable! You are simply blinded by your inbred biased loyalty. I broke that mold, and am proud to say I did.
Another interesting article from a trusted source
http://www.cnbc.com/id/43562127/The_...ars_and_Trucks
You keep defending GM, we have listed the known failures and your repsonse is there are more trucks on the road.....garbage.
If you have access to Mitchel or Shop key look up these-
TSB= tech service bulletin, a bulletin on a known problem and how to fix it. If found after warranty will not be covered
2007 Chevy Silverado 1500 - 283 TSB's
2007 Toyota Tundra - 32 TSB's
Disgusting if you ask me. Enjoy your "american made" truck, I'll enjoy mine.
You guys can knock the looks of my truck if it doesn't suit you, design, interior layout.....I'll give you that it's a matter of opinion. But for you to make a statement that a GM anything is higher quality is just laughable! You are simply blinded by your inbred biased loyalty. I broke that mold, and am proud to say I did.
Another interesting article from a trusted source
http://www.cnbc.com/id/43562127/The_...ars_and_Trucks
You keep defending GM, we have listed the known failures and your repsonse is there are more trucks on the road.....garbage.
If you have access to Mitchel or Shop key look up these-
TSB= tech service bulletin, a bulletin on a known problem and how to fix it. If found after warranty will not be covered
2007 Chevy Silverado 1500 - 283 TSB's
2007 Toyota Tundra - 32 TSB's
Disgusting if you ask me. Enjoy your "american made" truck, I'll enjoy mine.
I have been a Toyota and Lexus tech for years but have worked on everything. The years that I have been in the business I have never had to put an engine or transmission in any tundra and a handful of times on the other models but that was due to customer neglect. Except the old 4runner 3.0 recall that Toyota covered no matter mileage. I have had a my tundra with 170000 miles and have only had to do maintenance. I am just waiting for them to bring a diesel to the u.s well other then the yanmar diesels used in boats. For the Japan vs USA argument the tundra is built in the united states as well as the engines along with most of there other model lines.
You shouldn't hesitate to buy a tundra
You shouldn't hesitate to buy a tundra
Well I didn't want this to turn into American vs Japan but should of known it would happen... I really like hearing personal experiences with these vehicles not opinions so I'm glad to hear you Toyota guys having good ones with your trucks, what about you Denali guys? I think I'm gonna go drive one today and was just wondering if you've had any issues or problems with your trucks? I know it will tow my boat from hearing what some of you tow with yours and I know the inside of the truck is very nice cause it's loaded so I really think I will love the truck when I drive it. Thanks
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06-22-2012, 08:00 AM
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I used to have my own car repair business in the late 70's and the one thing I learned is every car company has their weak points. You have to know what they are and stay away from them or work around them. I have an 03 Suburban that is my work truck and daily driver and I drive it like I stole it according to my daughter. I hit 6000 rpm almost every time I take off, I've been known to drift it around freeway ramps and round abouts. I've dragged 2,000 pound boulders through sand and I regularly bury it in heavy snow up to my waist and I'm 6'3". I have almost 240,000 miles and yes I've had to replace the transmission, the fuel pump, Catalytic convertors, tie-rods, and idler arms. The motor still only uses 1qt per 10,000 miles between oil changes. But you look at my truck and except for the stone chips in the hood it looks new, runs better than new (I've tweaked a few things), and has zero rattles or odd noises. I still get 15mpg on the highway with 32" tall oversize tires a small lift and going 80 and mileage doesn't change that much towing my 6000lb boat going 75. The way I look at it, it has exceeded my expectations given the circumstances it has to operate under. If someone could prove to me that another vehicle can take this punishment and last this long and cost me this little to maintain, I'd consider that a good vehicle.
06-22-2012, 10:38 AM
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9400# is there because of the 3.42 axle (same for Denali and SLT/LTZ). Step up to the 3.73 offered only on the non-Denali because the AWD is 3.42 axle specfic; towing increases to 10,400#
Check the actual hitch rating. Mfg are notorious for giving only the higher WEIGHT DISTRIBUTING value. Boat trailers are non-WD due to surge brakes and use a lower value. (there is one company that has a compatable surge-WD system but it is not cost/time effective vs buying a better hitch) An aftermarket hitch may be necessary to obtain higher hitch ratings. (due to mfg using cheap/light steel hitch, GM did step up a little starting in 2011 on their HD hitch ratings but I dont know if they did on the 1500 too?)
Visited the lot out of curiosity on my hitch question the other day.
In cheap GM fashion, they still rate ALL 1500 series hiches at 5,000# towing/600# tongue for non-weight distributing trailers.
Gotta man up with an aftermarket hitch from Curt, Reese, etc.
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06-22-2012, 10:57 AM
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BTW, JD Power's 2012 study of long term reliability, 2009 model year vehicles -
Large Pickup -
Toyota Tundra
GMC Sierra HD
Chevrolet Silverado LD
http://autos.jdpower.com/content/stu...lts.htm?page=1
Like I said, all will tow the load mentioned with great satisfaction, OP just needs to sort out other details.
Large Pickup -
Toyota Tundra
GMC Sierra HD
Chevrolet Silverado LD
http://autos.jdpower.com/content/stu...lts.htm?page=1
Like I said, all will tow the load mentioned with great satisfaction, OP just needs to sort out other details.
06-23-2012, 12:56 PM
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Could you imagine another country's people coming out and rooting for the foreign companies rather than the home team......the Japanese are laughing at us all the way to the bank.
But I guess when you know you're buying a substandard truck as payback for the crappy mid-90's domestic you had you have to rationalize how much better it is although none of it is reality.
I mean, I can certainly see how bringing up a Cobalt that isn't in production is relevant to a 2012 truck. If you really want to understand, go drive a Cruze and a Corolla, the Corolla is such a POS only the blindest Toyota nutswinger would buy it. I believe that is a quote from a review of it.
But I guess when you know you're buying a substandard truck as payback for the crappy mid-90's domestic you had you have to rationalize how much better it is although none of it is reality.
I mean, I can certainly see how bringing up a Cobalt that isn't in production is relevant to a 2012 truck. If you really want to understand, go drive a Cruze and a Corolla, the Corolla is such a POS only the blindest Toyota nutswinger would buy it. I believe that is a quote from a review of it.
06-23-2012, 12:57 PM
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If you want to find out which truck has better this and that, you need to pay the small fee, and go to consumer reports. All you will get here is brand loyalty banter and bickering. All trucks have good and bad, you just have to decide what bad points you want to live with day to day. Again consumer reports is the only unbiased info you will get. good luck with your purchase.
1. CR does not verify people filling out their survey's even own a vehicle, not alone what they claim.
2. Only CR subscribers take the survey, not a random sample.
ie they tell you domestics are bad and you report back they are
3. They don't disclose their methodology.
