Diesel Thoughts???
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Which is why I bought my F450 about a year old. Yeah, it already had a gooseneck and light hookup inside the bed, so I knew the guy had already towed something heavy. But, it only had 33K miles and I got it for $34.9K. A friend of mine is a field engineer for Ford, so he ran the VIN to see if the truck had any issues. Pleasantly surprised to find out the radiator had already been replaced. I have had absolutely zero issues with it and it will pull a house off it's foundation.
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I bought an 07 chevy LT1 for 26 back in 2006 for 26 and some change and traded it in for 22.5, thats trade in if I sold it probably 24-25 easy. But again your not comparing apples to apples with your example. All I am saying is if your looking at cost a brand new diesel to a brand new 1/2 gasser or a 2000 gasser to a 2000 diesel, the 1/2 ton will win every time in cost, thats a fact.
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right but 34k is not a brand new diesel and if it were it would be a stripped down single cab. Like the other guy said whats your price point. Brand new to brand new with like trim, or used with like trim.
I bought an 07 chevy LT1 for 26 back in 2006 for 26 and some change and traded it in for 22.5, thats trade in if I sold it probably 24-25 easy. But again your not comparing apples to apples with your example. All I am sayig is if your looking at cost a brand new diesel to a brand new 1/2 gasser or a 2000 gasser to a 2000 diesel, the 1/2 ton will win every time in cost, thats a fact.
I bought an 07 chevy LT1 for 26 back in 2006 for 26 and some change and traded it in for 22.5, thats trade in if I sold it probably 24-25 easy. But again your not comparing apples to apples with your example. All I am sayig is if your looking at cost a brand new diesel to a brand new 1/2 gasser or a 2000 gasser to a 2000 diesel, the 1/2 ton will win every time in cost, thats a fact.
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I am a diehard Ram/Dodge fan. I have never had a single trans problem on any of the gas or diesels I have owned. I take care of my vehicles and always have. I think that the cummins is hands down the best diesel on the market. Please show me a semi tractor with a V-8? With all the tuning stopped by the government on the new models Ram hit it out if the park with this combination. Deleting and reprogramming is a thing of the past with this motor. I have 4000 miles on my new Mega cab 2013. The best one so far!
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Actually Cummins has alot of V engines. The new 5.0 in the Nissan is a V engine from Cummins, and I've yet to see any reliability issues out of v engines either.
In my opinion, the Cummins wins because it comes from a company who's focus is entirely around the engine and performance. We dabble in other things (Actually power generation is one of our biggest divisions and the one that I work for specifically) but everything we do is focused around the engine. Bought a large stake in Valvoline to come up with specific blends for the engine, when turbochargers were being installed in everything they bought holset, and when you need absolute reliability in emergency power generation they strapped an alternator end to the engine and build one of the best (albeit most expensive) on the market... upwards of 120L of displacement. It's not like Cat who doesn't make any over the road engines at all anymore and work on equipment and stuff like that. From the smallest to the biggest product, the company focus is the engine.
In my opinion, the Cummins wins because it comes from a company who's focus is entirely around the engine and performance. We dabble in other things (Actually power generation is one of our biggest divisions and the one that I work for specifically) but everything we do is focused around the engine. Bought a large stake in Valvoline to come up with specific blends for the engine, when turbochargers were being installed in everything they bought holset, and when you need absolute reliability in emergency power generation they strapped an alternator end to the engine and build one of the best (albeit most expensive) on the market... upwards of 120L of displacement. It's not like Cat who doesn't make any over the road engines at all anymore and work on equipment and stuff like that. From the smallest to the biggest product, the company focus is the engine.
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But again its all relevant, Im not comparing a 3/4 gasser to a 3/4 ton diesel, I was comparing it to a 1/2 truck, which again is all relevant.
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Actually Cummins has alot of V engines. The new 5.0 in the Nissan is a V engine from Cummins, and I've yet to see any reliability issues out of v engines either.
In my opinion, the Cummins wins because it comes from a company who's focus is entirely around the engine and performance. We dabble in other things (Actually power generation is one of our biggest divisions and the one that I work for specifically) but everything we do is focused around the engine. Bought a large stake in Valvoline to come up with specific blends for the engine, when turbochargers were being installed in everything they bought holset, and when you need absolute reliability in emergency power generation they strapped an alternator end to the engine and build one of the best (albeit most expensive) on the market... upwards of 120L of displacement. It's not like Cat who doesn't make any over the road engines at all anymore and work on equipment and stuff like that. From the smallest to the biggest product, the company focus is the engine.
In my opinion, the Cummins wins because it comes from a company who's focus is entirely around the engine and performance. We dabble in other things (Actually power generation is one of our biggest divisions and the one that I work for specifically) but everything we do is focused around the engine. Bought a large stake in Valvoline to come up with specific blends for the engine, when turbochargers were being installed in everything they bought holset, and when you need absolute reliability in emergency power generation they strapped an alternator end to the engine and build one of the best (albeit most expensive) on the market... upwards of 120L of displacement. It's not like Cat who doesn't make any over the road engines at all anymore and work on equipment and stuff like that. From the smallest to the biggest product, the company focus is the engine.
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Caterpillar CT660 vocational truck is based on International’s PayStar 5000i series and will use Navistar diesels and offer Cat’s own automatic transmission. The result of a manufacturing agreement between Cat and Navistar International, the trucks will be sold and serviced exclusively through Cat’s North American dealer network, with production beginning after ConExpo for delivery later in the year.
Initial engine options will include a Cat CT11 with ratings from 330 to 390 hp, and a CT13 at 410 to 475 hp. Both are expected to be MaxxForce 10.5- and 12.4-liter diesels adapted for use in the Cat trucks.
In 2012, Cat will offer a CT15 with 435 to 550 hp. This 15-liter engine will be Cat’s version of Navistar’s upcoming MaxxForce 15, which uses a Cat C15 block and other “iron” components with Navistar fuel and air systems.
Cat’s CX31 torque converter-style automatic transmission will be an option. Already used in Cat machinery, the CX31 will have three locations for rear power take-off mountings. Caterpillar will also offer other vocational transmission options, including Eaton manual and automated-manual transmissions.
Initial engine options will include a Cat CT11 with ratings from 330 to 390 hp, and a CT13 at 410 to 475 hp. Both are expected to be MaxxForce 10.5- and 12.4-liter diesels adapted for use in the Cat trucks.
In 2012, Cat will offer a CT15 with 435 to 550 hp. This 15-liter engine will be Cat’s version of Navistar’s upcoming MaxxForce 15, which uses a Cat C15 block and other “iron” components with Navistar fuel and air systems.
Cat’s CX31 torque converter-style automatic transmission will be an option. Already used in Cat machinery, the CX31 will have three locations for rear power take-off mountings. Caterpillar will also offer other vocational transmission options, including Eaton manual and automated-manual transmissions.
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06 or 07 classic GMC or Chevy which has duramax LBZ. The best version of the duramax with no emission crap and fuel injectors for ultra low sulfur diesel. 6 speed Allison.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duramax_V8_engine
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duramax_V8_engine
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My tow pig for the last 8 years was a 2005 Duramax SRW 2500. Truck was great (still have it).
Just bought a F250 Crew Cab Platinum Edition 4x4. Sticker 65,xxx paid 53,696 plus TT&L. I think it would pull down a sky scrapper if it had a chain around it. lol Averaged 12.5 towing to Desting and LOTO with the boat.
Just bought a F250 Crew Cab Platinum Edition 4x4. Sticker 65,xxx paid 53,696 plus TT&L. I think it would pull down a sky scrapper if it had a chain around it. lol Averaged 12.5 towing to Desting and LOTO with the boat.