Thanx flight plan . If your on the fence about gas or diesel maybe this will help. If your buying a diesel and don't need the power the only way it makes sense is to keep it for at least 8 years to make up the 8000 dollar difference in a average miles per year of 15k miles. If your not planning on keeping it that long don't buy it. I bought my first one in 2001 the first year they came out with it. I snow plowed for 14 years with it ( paid for itself every 2 years) I used it to pull my trailer for the race bikes all over the northeast and made many trips down south. I still have it and still snow plow with it. Don't think I have it in me to sell the old girl. But if I didn't have to pull my 35' and my Bobcats and excavator I would probably go gas. But you'll never get the power out of gas that you do with a diesel tuner! Lol

That math doesn't work, that might have been valid math when the diesels were getting better mileage and burned cheaper fuel but not the case today........the new diesels aren't getting double the mileage of a gasser! I saw it on a forum (not sure if it was here) that after 100K miles the savings on a diesel was like $800 (factoring in the higher cost, higher cost of fuel/maintenance). Whoever posted, laid out the service costs as per the factory, real world mileage figures for both and it looked reasonable as far as the whole equation.

I will say, the shocker for me was after 170K miles on my last Duramax.....I spent $39,000 in FUEL to run it that long, more than I paid for the truck brand new!

it wont bother you after you drive one .. if youre finacing the truck exttra 8 k over 5 years is a no brainer .. resale is going to be way better .hell if spend 60 to 70 k its going to be the best screw it .. im not going to be driving down the road a month after n say .. i frikken wish id a bought that diesel ... lol witch every gasser says lol .penny pinching ,, i just never did that stuff ill go withouit something else than to worry about what gas .. see what selling used its the deisels first than the gasers ... you can keep them gassers .. that 6.0 rattletrap .piston knocking . hunk just saying

Did anyone else in the north east have trouble getting gasoline after " Sandy" ? I didn't . I had a diesel lol. As far as cost of maintaining I get free oil changes for 2 years with purchase ..... And Alison trans DONT Ever have problems. I get about 8 miles per gallon in my Yukon and 18 in duramax. My math says that's more than double anyway. It's really an argument over pennies. The truth is the duramax will run to 500000 mile without issue. I already stuck a lifter in my Yukon and had to pull the head to fix after 50k miles.

Here is the 2013 study: 25 pages long done by University of Michigan: http://www.dieselforum.org/files/dmf...ort_dd2017.pdf



TCO- Total cost of ownership (Purchase, maintenance, depreciation).

Diesel vehicles in the medium size pickup segment have a mixed picture of TCO in the three
year timeframe. The Chevrolet Silverado 2500 saves the owner an estimated $3,673 more than
the owner of the gas powered version of the vehicle and the GMC Sierra 2500 owner saves
$2,720, while the Dodge Ram 2500 diesel owner saves only $67 more than the owner of the gas
powered version. The Ford F-250 diesel owner pays an estimated $1,395 more than the owner of
the gas powered version.

* noted in the study that the Ford Diesel has lower resale due to previous engine issues

Free oil changes means two or three (2 yr or 24K mile offer). 8 miles per gallon in a Yukon seems like you might have a fuel leak somewhere! I had a 2009 Yukon 5.3 and 12/14 city and 16/17 highway was reality. If you ran over 80 it would dip to 15. Just ran 1000 miles in a 2014 Suburban 5.3 4X4 and it was loaded with stuff/every seat full with passengers and it still got 16.6 in the 1000 mile trip.

Your right about arguing over pennies, but the diesels are surely not the big savers they were 20-25 years ago. If the govt. ever starts cracking down on modded diesels I suspect that fad would be over real quick. Imagine being told you have to retrofit your modded diesel with all the DEF stuff you deleted and you can't drive it until it is done and face the penalties/fines?

They may not be the savers as they were back in the day. But back in the day they didn't have turbos and they were pigs also. If you need to pull heavy things the diesel is the only way. If you want to go fast get the diesel. If you want a family truckster get gas. I have a feeling that diesel will start to drop in price soon. The plants needed to re tool to make ultra low sulfur and should be caught up. But again at the end of the day buy what you need. If it's fuel economy buy a hybrid.

Update- Took the truck to Quad Cities IL /Iowa for a month long job. Truck got 20 mpg on the hwy (no trailer). About 13000 miles now

This truck is great...

Yesterday used it to pull some bushes out at my friends shop. Just hook a strap and idled it forward it pulled the bushes out of the ground....

Update- Duramax is doing well. Not driving it much- not much snow here. Have been helping my brother move and his buddy who was living at his house.while he got back on his feet.

Gas mileage has dropped with winter fuel and warmups.

Only have 14000 miles on it at this point. Still love it....Looks better than those ugly a$$ FRD super duties at the auto show...ok enuff the of the poop stirring... sorry guys.... well maybe...

The gas vs diesel debate is always lively!

The way i think of it is just buy what you want. If you want to get the job done, the gasser is fine. If you want to get the job done with ease and power to spare, then get a diesel!

I just spent the past 3 days driving a ton of 2016 chevys. Gas, diesel, 2500, 3500, crew cab, everything. The gas trucks are no slouch but the diesel is just plain powerful. I chose to spend the 8 grand and will enjoy the right side pedal for years to come.

Lets face it, if you were buying a Chevelle in 1970 would you get a straight six to be economical or get a 454 and rock the f**k out! Live life damnit!