bajaman

SabrToothSqrl make a good point...the automotive world will be FAR different in 20 years. While I truly believe there will still be a large number of ICE powered cars, the various governments will probably by that time have something like a $5.00 per gallon tax on fossil fuels...making it prohibitively expensive to use it. This gets discussed more and more on the various boating forums I am on as recreational boating will just get SCREWED if this comes to pass.

seafordguy

What I would love to see is a Hybrid 6.7 powerstroke - instant torque of the electric, motor, followed by the endless pulling power of the diesel. Would be killer......

carnutsx2

Thanks for the input, I don't think that i asked the question correctly. I'm curious if a new truck with all the bells and whistles, emission systems and gadgets will survive the test of time . A new truck would be nice but I really don't need a new truck but I certainly don't want an albatross that lives at the dealership or consumes expensive parts .

Jupiter Sunsation

The Ram Cummins still is a relatively simple motor as is the Duramax. The Ford is complex, multiple coolers/fans. Just read through this thread on head studs/turbos/death wobble and they all seem to have a blue oval theme.

So if you buy a tradesman cummins you probably have a lot of trouble free miles ahead of you in the next 2 decades.

Jupiter Sunsation

That F150 lightning is a great looking/performing truck as long as the price doesn't get stupid. I'd buy that truck to daily drive.

Wildman_grafix

My take is they all at this point are pretty complex and really pretty good. The base models of all have the less amount of stuff but lets face it, because of the modern electronic on vehicles and all they do you will never again see 30-40 year old vehicles running down the road. Just not going to, I have went through the same and its time to replace my truck.

It is just too old, so I went with a new one but gas. Modern Diesels are way more capable then I need, if I can not tow something with the new F350 7.3 gas and 3.73 rear end, it means I have enough money to buy a new tow vehicle as well.

Not likely to happen.

SecondWind

I have a 2017 Ram 2500 TD w/ 6 speed manual. It has 215K miles and runs great. I’ve replaced batteries, clutch and an alternator so far. This setup is spectacular!

Quinlan

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My 07 3500 Classic LBZ Crew SRW long bed is serving my needs well. 140K now since i got it new. There have been a few issues- biggest is new turbos. Im with some of you guys just cant see spending close to 100K on a new truck that wont be driven that much. Still got the F6fiddy if I have a house to pull.

Jupiter Sunsation

Saw a buddy today at the post office. He had a Platinum F450 that was gulping oil at 110K miles. He traded it for a new 7.3 F250 Lariat. He regularly does a 400 mile trip 3-5 times a month and said the F450 was 13 mpg and the F250 gasser is turning 16 mpg so it has been good but the 450 did tow better. Best part: used F450 and $3000 was all it took to walk out with a brand new F250 and a title.

The F450 had wobbled a couple times on him during his trips so I think he was done with it and the oil consumption just pushed him to the dealer faster.

carnutsx2

Once again, thanks for the inputs. Sadly I dont think we will ever see a truck as simple as a mid 70's 454 turbo400 truck but in hindsight they sucked to tow with. I've got a city car/ daily driver so that box is checked. A hybrid diesel would be awsome , battery power for driving to the store and diesel power for hauling but then once again all that complexity that causes a short usable life span . Maybe a bicycle and inflatable raft is the answer