You can't be serious and actually ramp with that thing. Can you?

The receiver is 1 1/4 diameter rated at 1700 pds.The ball was a 1 7/8 . I just sat the tongue on it just for the picture Figured ya ll get a kick out of it. It really didn't sit the back end down that much

Dennis you want me to launch your cat with it for ya


Rob

The 3208 is an antique that, other than reman's, isn't built anymore. It's also the dirtiest running of any of the old n/a diesels and is the benchmark for emission testing and cleanup with Arizona Department of Environmental Quality. They are really heavy as well. I've seen one shoehorned into a Chevy crew cab dually before and, other than the feat of getting it in there, it wasn't impressive. If you were dead set on putting a Cat in a truck, you'd be better off with a 3126, and even then you'd run into size and weight issues.

As far as GM owning Isuzu??? Haven't heard that one before. GM owns Allison, and Dahlmer Chrysler owns Detroit Diesel (and the Germans are a joy to deal with from a dealer/distributor standpoint ).

You have brought up the right subject, I just bought a c4500 to replace my 03 f350 , READ you boat insurance policy< my F350 was not rated high enough to pull my 44 MTI , policy sats it is void if not pulled by a properly rated vehicle.

If you want a big diesel in a pickup the way to go is an old detroit 53 series motor. I had an 89' CC DRW 1 ton that I wedged an 8-53 into with an old browning 5+4 trans that thing was a blast to drive. had to do a lot of work to get it in though.The 3208 pretty much sucks, they sound nice but thats about it. the 3126 would be a good option but they weigh like 4k pounds.

Not to get the who own who straight

Cummins own Cummins( and there is no F-ing G)
Ford and International are in bed together somehow
Cat owns Cat
GM owns and always has owned detroit desiel wich also includes the Allison line.
Detroit started out as a division of GM called EMD wich is Electro Motive division, as in trains. Yes trains are powered by electric motors that are powered by a generator that is run by a giant diesel engine. The Detroit name was ultimatley given to the division and EMD became the name for thier locomotives, the EMD30-EMD120.
You can get just about any diesel engine you want in any truck you want when you step up to the medium duty truck line of any manufacturer.

Wrong. Unfortunatley Dahmler Chrysler bought Detroit Diesel in 2000. But GM still owns Allison.

A little history lesson (borrowed from the Detroit Diesel page):

The roots of Detroit Diesel Corporation can be traced back to 1938 with the formation of the GM Diesel Division by General Motors. With the outbreak of World War II, the relatively compact, lightweight, two-cycle engine developed by the company became in great demand for powering standby generators, tanks, landing craft and road building equipment. After the war, Detroit Diesel further developed its heavy-duty engine products for various commercial markets, including the growing on-highway truck market.

In 1957, GM Diesel introduced the Series 53 and Series 71 engines for both on-highway and off-road use. The 1950’s and 1960’s saw the development of a worldwide distribution network of independent, authorized distributors and dealers to provide parts and service to the markets it was serving.

In 1965, GM Diesel became Detroit Diesel Engine Division and five years later, General Motors consolidated the company with the closely allied transmission and gas turbine businesses of the Allison Division in Indianapolis to form the Detroit Diesel Allison Division.


On January 1, 1988, Detroit Diesel Corporation, a joint venture company between Penske Corporation and General Motors, began operations as the successor to the heavy-duty diesel engine business of the Detroit Diesel Allison Division. It was just one year earlier that the company had introduced the Series 60 engine, a new, four-cycle, heavy-duty diesel engine and the first production engine with integrated electronic controls as a standard feature. Developed to meet the demand for cleaner and more fuel efficient heavy-duty engines, the DDC Series 60 grew in popularity to become the most popular, heavy-duty diesel engine in the North American Class 8 truck market.


By October 1993, the Company completed a successful initial public offering of common stock to become a publicly traded company listed on the New York Stock Exchange under the stock symbol "DDC".


In October, 2000, DaimlerChrysler AG completed a “Tender Offer” for all of the outstanding shares of DDC, including the 48.6% ownership interest of Penske Corporation. Following the acquisition, DaimlerChrysler combined various engine and other powertrain component activities (including DDC, MTU-Friedrichshafen and Mercedes-Benz industrial engines) in the Commercial Vehicle Division under a new business unit named DaimlerChrysler Powersystems, an organization with over 34,000 employees and combined revenues of approximately $7 billion.


Today, Detroit Diesel Corporation, a subsidiary of DaimlerChrysler AG, designs, manufactures, sells and services a complete line of medium and heavy-duty diesel and alternative fuel engines for the commercial vehicle market. Detroit Diesel services its customers through a worldwide network of more than 2,700 authorized distributor and dealer locations.

Hows that F-350 treatin ya?

The perfect truck would be an F-250 with the new cummins. You talk to any real truck/diesel guy and he'll agree. Buy a Ford scrap the motor and replace with a cummins.

Hey Jordy, I take it that info is from a brochure or something so I must be wrong here, but I do appreciate the history lesson. What si the realtionship between GM, EMD, and Detroit then?

That's actually from the Detroit Diesel website. At this point, as far as relationship, there really isn't one between DD and GM. I don't know about EMD though. The Germans are a wierd bunch to deal with and have their own way of doing things is why I say there isn't a relationship. Hell, they keep trying to cut us out of the dealer/distributor business, not to mention the parts business by letting everyone go direct on parts and cutting us out of the picture. Oh, and I work for the Detroit Diesel/Allison dealer by the way.