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Velocity Vector 04-28-2008 02:04 PM

Bought engines today VV
 
These engines are going in my 320 to replace the 496's.
They are 2005 Factory Mercury 750HP Super Cat Racing Engines with 10 hrs from new. I am having the 12/1 ratio pistons and roller cams changed to 9.8/1 ratio to run pump gas. My bell housings off the 496's will work. We are looking for 6000 RPM and a little over 700 HP per side with the new pistons / cams. I think they will look trick and should be bullet proof.

http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/i...20/22912_2.jpg
http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/i...y320/22912.jpg
http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/i...20/22912_1.jpg

Andy 04-28-2008 03:35 PM

How many cubes, man those are sweeeeet looking bastards. Big $$$? 100mph, oh yeahhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!

Pat McPherson 04-28-2008 03:39 PM

Sweet!
Are you going to change to wet exhaust through the transom?

Perlmudder 04-28-2008 03:44 PM

i bet they are LOUD!

Velocity Vector 04-28-2008 04:29 PM


Originally Posted by Andy (Post 2540865)
How many cubes, man those are sweeeeet looking bastards. Big $$$? 100mph, oh yeahhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!

572 CID, The guy is the owner of the OPA racing boat Totally Unleashed a 36' Gladiator Cig. 120 MPH w/ #5 drives. .:cool-smiley-027:
http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/i...idge__299_.jpg
http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/i...dge__178_1.jpg

Andy 04-28-2008 04:35 PM

Smokin deal. Thats going to be one sick ride with the exhaust pokin out. Awsome.

RaggedEdge 04-28-2008 05:22 PM

Lot of money for tater launchers!!! But I bet they'll really launch them taters a country mile. You have some real big coconuts to put them in that 32 VV, qualifies you for the Bad MoFo of the year award. :D WTF happened to some nice little dependable blue motors???

waterboy222 04-28-2008 05:55 PM

through the hatch? hope your not a neat freak! that ****s meeeesssssy... all the carbon you see on your transom will now be all over the top of the boat (and the roof of the dock!) hard to beat for that trick look though!

notda1 04-28-2008 05:56 PM

If the deal is not final , I might have a lead .Either way should be great with the extra power.Best of luck :cool-smiley-011:

Mange 04-28-2008 06:48 PM

Congrats to some VERY COOL engines. I do think you gona see some big # MPH.. And these headers sticking up the hatch BAD wow!!

/Mange

Velocity Vector 04-28-2008 07:47 PM


Originally Posted by Mange (Post 2541082)
Congrats to some VERY COOL engines. I do think you gona see some big # MPH.. And these headers sticking up the hatch BAD wow!!

/Mange

Thanks Mange, I think she will be some real fun.

DKerns 04-28-2008 09:04 PM

Congrats and Good Luck! You will have to keep us posted on the swap. I think 700 hp will be very easy to acheive with those. You will prob. have the fastest N/A 320, maybe even the fastest 320!!!!!:cool-smiley-011::hitfan:

Single Screw 32 04-28-2008 09:13 PM

THAT A BOY. keep us posted that will be one bad 320. Now you will be able to run over a 100mph without trimming it to the sky and getting all bent out of shape like the other guys talk about. NOTDA1 knows what i'm talking about he had one of the baddest 30's around and never had it trimmed out of shape or unsafe @ 105 mph plus, full of people. Curt. P>S i think that exhaust will get old quick just my .02$

DKerns 04-28-2008 09:27 PM


Originally Posted by Velocity Vector (Post 2541329)
D Kerns, Thanks, It should be plenty of get-up. I'll keep everyone posted on the re-rig.

I need some input on drives, I found a set of 2007 B-max HT drives with 15 hrs on them, like new for 15K good to 900 + HP so they say.


Maybe Notda1 could give you some input on the drives. Also if Hyper1 see's this maybe he will chime in on his drive swap on his 320.

Personally, I would go with the stronger drive, but what do I know, I run an Alpha!:evilb:

007joe 04-28-2008 09:28 PM

sick motors... love the exsaust!!! def gonna be one of the baddest 320's around... :drink:

Velocity Vector 04-28-2008 09:36 PM


Originally Posted by Single Screw 32 (Post 2541317)
THAT A BOY. keep us posted that will be one bad 320. Now you will be able to run over a 100mph without trimming it to the sky and getting all bent out of shape like the other guys talk about. NOTDA1 knows what i'm talking about he had one of the baddest 30's around and never had it trimmed out of shape or unsafe @ 105 mph plus, full of people. Curt. P>S i think that exhaust will get old quick just my .02$

Safe is the main thing, I'll have to get some seat time before I go 100, .:cool-smiley-011:

ls1nova 04-29-2008 08:05 AM

VV-- That bad boy is going to be sick!!

My thoughts on the drive are to go with a modified XR. If you had a heavier boat it would be a no brainer, but I think you can get away with XR's with good componenets. Of course that all depends on your driving habits too

Frank

Revelocity 04-29-2008 08:40 AM

Good luck VV. Please take some pic's of the engine installations and post as there will be a ton of interest!

I definitely agree with Frank on going with the modified XR's since you have a lighter boat and NA motors. The BMAX's will definitely effect your handling/speed with it's bigger cross section, make the boat even more tail heavy and I think the jury is still out on just how much stronger the newer BMAX drive really is. In either case, I'd install longer trim tabs to give yourself every handling advantage.

Having previously owned a 90 MPH 320, I'd definitely recommend spending plenty of time talking to Hyper about setting up and driving a 320 at the 100+ MPH mark! :cool-smiley-026:

Rick

RaggedEdge 04-29-2008 11:59 AM


Originally Posted by Revelocity (Post 2541717)
Having previously owned a 90 MPH 320, I'd definitely recommend spending plenty of time talking to Hyper about setting up and driving a 320 at the 100+ MPH mark! :cool-smiley-026:

Rick



I would definetly agree here, having owned Hypers boat for 7+ years, you need to take your time learning. That hull can bite you hard if you do not respect it.

On the drives, Bill can confirm, but I am pretty sure he went with the Imco Extremes with a 1.50 ratio. XRs would likely work as well, especially if you go to the newer swept back style, they are supposed to be somewhat better, steel tower, heavier thrust washers etc.

Velocity Vector 04-29-2008 12:32 PM

Found a set of new race preped xrs with shorties,

I am having the dry sumps removed and adding oil pumps and pans 10 quart pans, I just don't have a whole lot of room to add the oil tanks.

RaggedEdge 04-29-2008 05:42 PM


Originally Posted by Velocity Vector (Post 2542366)
He also mentioned I won't have any trouble hearing the engines nor will my neighbors.



Many miles away!:D

Vicious22 04-29-2008 07:30 PM

VV I'm running CMI Split Top Dry Pipes ,off the old merc 900,
They go thru the transom above the swim platform. This is a loud set up. sounds awesome but after an hour or two its loud.

You may want to think about those pipes before cut your boat up.

Just a thought

Andy 04-30-2008 12:56 PM

You can't put zoomies on cause the taters will get stuck, what are you thinking?:D

cougarman 04-30-2008 02:36 PM


Originally Posted by Velocity Vector (Post 2541820)
Thanks for the input, I have a set of 28" racing K-planes on order, that will deffinately help out. I am scrapping the B-max after more research on them and agree the XR's will serve me better, I'm just boating on the lake, they will hold together for what I do and be lighter and faster. Where is Hyper, haven't heard from him in a while. Must be breeding season.:D


I have some wetsump #6's if you want to eliminate your worry's with them tall deck Torque monster's :D:D 1.61 ratio

Jon

RaggedEdge 04-30-2008 06:13 PM


Originally Posted by Velocity Vector (Post 2543607)
John,
Plus I have already bought them. Thanks
K.C.



It's good to see someone pre-spending their "Economic Stimulus" cash. We all need to do our share to get this economy rolling again. :D

Velocity Vector 04-30-2008 07:09 PM


Originally Posted by RaggedEdge (Post 2543839)
It's good to see someone pre-spending their "Economic Stimulus" cash. We all need to do our share to get this economy rolling again. :D

Peter, I can't remember the last time I was so stimulated.:angry-smiley-038:

RaggedEdge 05-01-2008 07:04 AM


Originally Posted by Velocity Vector (Post 2543898)
Peter, I can't remember the last time I was so stimulated.:angry-smiley-038:



You just be sure to send Mr. Bush a nice Thank You note. Your wife going to throw her share in the boat as well? If you could come up with about 100 kids you could almost cover the whole upgrade program.:D

Sick Stinger 05-01-2008 07:34 AM

Hey VV love my 572 cant beat big cubes. I like the idea to keep the exhaust the same thats trick
-Mike

Sick Stinger 05-01-2008 10:41 AM

Oh well it was a good idea. Dry tail is the way to go im still looking for a set of stainless marine dry tails
-Mike

DKerns 05-01-2008 11:15 AM

:cool-smiley-011:VV, you can sell some exhaust to Sick!!!!

Sick Stinger 05-01-2008 01:35 PM

VV Are they dry set up for a bravo and what was he asking. No i didnt get to call him yet

notda1 05-01-2008 05:37 PM

In a lot of areas the police are cracking down on loud boats.The cops on the river where i live they carry a db meter.I don't have mufflers but should.I do get a hard time about the noise sometimes .Around busy areas from dockmasters police and the public.I always hand out earplugs to passengers, and have a hard time hearing each other when underway.Rather be fast and quiet if I could. P S like that pic of the 5's .When having fun no need to be practical :cool-smiley-011:

Velocity Vector 05-01-2008 09:12 PM

Notda1, here it is a after dark noise limit, but anything goes during the day. Those SSm's are all business looking aren't they. Ray must be a real neat person, just look at floor in his shop, cleaner than my kitchen floor.

The XR's drives ship on Monday or Tuesday and the motors will be torn apart this weekend for the piston and cams removed and pistons weighed for balanced for replacement 9.8:1 Flat top pistons. We are sceduled in 2-3 weeks for the dyno runs before the installs. Ray said he is thinking 700-725 HP @ 6000 RPM range.

Velocity Vector 05-01-2008 10:41 PM

Anyone heard from Hyper1, I tried to e-mail him but it came back undeliverable. Hope he's alright.

DKerns 05-01-2008 10:45 PM


Originally Posted by Velocity Vector (Post 2545412)
Anyone heard from Hyper1, I tried to e-mail him but it came back undeliverable. Hope he's alright.


I dropped him a call. He has a lot of stuff going on! I am sure he will chime in when he gets a chance!!

Velocity Vector 05-01-2008 10:51 PM


Originally Posted by DKerns (Post 2545413)
I dropped him a call. He has a lot of stuff going on! I am sure he will chime in when he gets a chance!!

Great, I thought he might be sick or something. I going to have a lot of guestions for him. Thanks D

1HYPER1 05-02-2008 11:15 AM


Originally Posted by Velocity Vector (Post 2545412)
Anyone heard from Hyper1, I tried to e-mail him but it came back undeliverable. Hope he's alright.

I am here I just have alot going on with buisness and my Dad.Harry you will have alot of fun with that package in your 320,you will be amazed on the difference in the handling of the boat now that it has enough power in it to keep it on the pad :D.Any time you have any questions just let me know and I might even have some parts and props and who knows what else to make that thing all come together.Let me know what you need,or you can call me anytime,thanks for the concern about me for not being on here much but I am still here.Talk to you soon.
Bill

My new E Mail is [email protected]

Velocity Vector 05-02-2008 03:21 PM

Good news, I have a sale pending on my 496 Ho package. Hopefully I will be able to buy props now.

RaggedEdge 05-03-2008 08:15 AM


Originally Posted by Velocity Vector (Post 2546449)
I told ya'll my daughter wrecked her car, I took it to the body shop for a fix and it is still there, She asked me where is my Camaro? I told her I got it fixed and put it in my boat. I caught her looking under the cover of the boat for her car. Kids Heee!

She came in and said, "my Camaro isn't in the boat Daddy"




Blonde???:D

Velocity Vector 05-03-2008 12:45 PM

Any thoughts, Since I am going with these engines, think it would be a good Idea to go ahead while I'm here to change my Bravo gimbal ring and helmet to Imco HD's, I sure don't want to break a gimble and have to pull the engine to change it out later. The cost of the Imco's will be close to the same as pulling the engine later.


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