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Old 11-26-2012 | 09:23 PM
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Yep! Essentially the same hull as the 32 AT including length if you ever plumb-bob one. But ya just can't touch the 33 AT ride!

Seriously though, that cockpit in both those boats are why we built the 33. Ya gotta say we got it "just right"!
I'm sorry to sound stupid, but can elaborate on this more? Is the PP the same hull as the 32 AT or the 32 and 33 AT are the same hull?

Can you just build me a 33 and sell it to me at 1/2 price for R+D so I can quit going nuts!?!? I'm like a little kid the night before christmas that can't wait for presents, only I cant wait to be a part of the cult!
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Old 11-26-2012 | 10:28 PM
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Not the same hull as a PP. What is your budget? There are some nice 32 AT's that pop up from time to time.
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Old 11-26-2012 | 11:55 PM
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32AT and 33PP came from the same roots, way back when; but Pat had modified the strakes several times over the years which contributes to different ride charactieristics. I think we can agree to disagree which one rides better. AT and PP were very much so friendly compeitors when the original PP was in play.

The 33AT is a 9/10s scale design of the 37AT; pretty much literally. The 33AT and the 37AT share the EXACT same cockpit dimensions; done on purpose.

The 32AT and 33AT really do not compare. COMPLETELY different boats.

It's also difficult to compare a 37AT 'Offshore' (straightbottom) with a 37AT 'Excess' as layups, materials, weights/densities and other attriutes have evolved in the same timeframes. That said, on paper; 13-15% better speed efficiency step over straight. But we play with the step on occasion as well.

I've posted before on the DDC hull, and why it rides different than a straight bottom, AND why it's different and better (and in many folks' opinion) than other step bottom hulls. DDC has the word "duo" in it. Hint: It's two hulls at the same time.

Bones, you have my curiousity piqued. What attribute would you take from a 30 Outlaw and put on an AT? The abundant engine room access?

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Old 11-27-2012 | 12:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Bad-Influence
I'm sorry to sound stupid, but can elaborate on this more? Is the PP the same hull as the 32 AT or the 32 and 33 AT are the same hull?
32 AT and 33 PP are similar, but not the same. The 33 AT is a newer design and based off the design of the 37 as Sydwayz said.
The cockpit area in the 32 AT and 33 PP could use aother 6-12" of length between the bolsters and backseat.
The 32 AT is a deeper boat with more freeboard than the 33 PP.
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Old 11-27-2012 | 04:51 AM
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Sommerfliesby- I'm surprised you did not mention the 38 PowerPlay in your search for a boat, hard to beat the room in those and from what I hear a pretty solid ride. You ended up with a very sweet looking ride though, looking forward to seeing it up at Boyne Thunder.

As far as room in a 32'-34' boat you're not going to beat a Powerquest Vyper, they are huge. Jordan's (288Kid) 33 had much more room in the cockpit and more in the cabin than my 33, I haven't been in a 32 but they look similar to the 33 as far as useable room. I do like the ride of the PowerPlay better BUT the 33PP isn't what your looking for if you're wanting a lot of room. I've seen a few 32's come around here and there and not priced bad either... Jay, I thought your buddy was going to be putting his up?

It sounds like you are pretty convinced of wanted an AT regardless so why not wait for one? You know as soon as you buy something else one is going to pop up and you're going to be pissed, it always works that way lol. Patience is your friend. Good luck!
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Old 11-27-2012 | 05:57 AM
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I've only ever SEEN one 38 Powerplay! Not too many 37 ATs around...and even FEWER 38 PPs, so it never really entered the radar.

Agree 100% on the 34 Powerquest...TONS of room in that boat, and a sharp-looking design with a windscreen (not a big fan of windshield boats). When I was shopping for my first boat (which ended up being a 29 Powerquest), I had a dealer tell me I'd have no trouble pulling a 34 Vyper with my V8 Grand Cherokee. Lol. Some guys will say anything to get you to move up, I guess.
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Old 11-27-2012 | 06:23 AM
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Originally Posted by ajfisher

Jay, I thought your buddy was going to be putting his up?

It sounds like you are pretty convinced of wanted an AT regardless so why not wait for one? You know as soon as you buy something else one is going to pop up and you're going to be pissed, it always works that way lol. Patience is your friend. Good luck!
Keeps going back and forth on selling. I'll post something in the AT section if he does decide to sell.
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Old 11-27-2012 | 06:27 AM
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Haha... I also had a 29 PQ, and I thought my half ton was going to have a stroke going up any hill of considerable size... A grand Cherokee would be just plain unsafe! Might as well hook her up to a diesel chevette!
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Old 11-27-2012 | 06:34 AM
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Haha... I also had a 29 PQ, and I thought my half ton was going to have a stroke going up any hill of considerable size... A grand Cherokee would be just plain unsafe! Might as well hook her up to a diesel chevette!
Guy by me tows a blown 29 Outlaw with a Trailblazer.
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Old 11-27-2012 | 07:09 AM
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Guys, thanks for all the replies! I am learning a lot and enjoying the read.

PPJ - I'm not ready to buy yet, probably be a couple of years...just trying to get my ducks in a row. Before I even started this thread I was in love with the 33 AT but there just aren't enough out there to be had. I have been window shopping for AT's for a couple of years now and they are hard to find. I feel I have a better chance of finding and being able to afford a 32.
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