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Paul i have not forgotton.Your first on my list (I just bought a condo up my way in Mon Beach and put everything on the back burner).Your boat is definately a must see in looking for an Apache and i might add VERY REASIONABLY priced.

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give me a call soon i would like to see it stay in N.J.

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Hey Joe what's up. It's abot time you got the Viper running again.

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Joe , You lose your mind again or hit the lottery? :eek:

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You never know with me.Within the next few weeks i should have some money out of the restaurant and for years i flat out missed not being on the water.Hey Nick whats up.

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Nick i should have it (Viper )back together by Thanksgiving .No more racing or magazine tests ect. Dodge has a new Viper coming ouy in 6 months (625 hp from the factory )so i will have D Buhler order me one.My car is basically obsolute (performance,braking ect)I dont want to throw good money on top of bad.

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Panther(Frank) you want to hear a great car story?Ask Nick Sacutis about the time i was with the magazine guys at the Colts Neck Inn the night they were testing one of the origional prototypes for the Ford GT months before its public release.At this particular time John Coletti(used to be head of Ford SVT) gave a SLIGHTLY mofifyed GT to Evan Smith and the rest of Muscle Mustang and Fast Ford to test it at Englishtown.Evan took a few of us down Route 18 at lets just say a little over the speed limit.(close to 3 times)

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I remember that car. :cool: And the story about the Sunday drive on 18. :evilb:

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Congratulations Predator! I heard you guys were really in top form in Key West!

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Not bad for a 20 year old boat!

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Nick the funny thing is Evan(Smith)just got me to sponser one of his race cars .The little bastard drops a valve in my Viper from hotlapping it (bends the crank )and now i am sponsering one of his cars.Iam banged twice.

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Amazing!
I believe it has Chief power.

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Reddeath..this is the Apache powerboat forum.

Here you go.

http://aolsearch.aol.com/aol/redir?s...ion=WebResults

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Comanche,shouldnt you be out trying to peddle your 20,000.00 hull for 80 grand or something.Iam supprised you have time to respond and moniter this forem with ALL the prespective buyers ringing the phone off the hook to acquire such a rare and valuable item.

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I am out trying to sell your houses...believe me its tough.

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Ps since some boats in question with only two engines are SELLING all day long for mid 300s yours with 3 engines has to go for mid 400s .Come to think of it ,what am i saying mid 400s make it an even 500.000.00 .

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Come on up to Monmouth County where a bare building lot on the water in Middletown,Rumson or Deal is in the 4 million dollar range then you can talk about selling land.Which county do you live in again?

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Red,

I've held off on this...

You want to carry on conversations that are off-topic? PM or e-mail or call these people. As far as your Apache comments go, I think we've all had enough. Unless you have something positive to add, please post elsewhere.

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hmmmmmmmmmmmmm i thought posting was done when riding western horses......

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Chris ,your missing the point.Nothing is being said thats bad about the Apache.I am trying to actually buy one.If someone is trying to sell me something at double or tripple the MARKET VALUE (just because they put that much into it )they are TRYING to take advantage of me according i do have a right to respond.Others simply dont want to hear or acknowledge the TRUTH because it devalues their boat.One guy applaudes Preditor (forexample) as an ideal SPECIAL LIGHTWEIGHT Apache.Nobody wants it mentioned (for some strange reason )that Preditor sold in March of this year for 85000.00.

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When those owners want to lower the price they will. In the mean time, I guess you have to wait :)

Patience is a virtue.

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RD, everything is for sale, you just have to pay for it.
On the other hand, if there are not many comps(since you mention realestate) in recent apache sales, it is very hard to judge market value.
Can't compare sales of a 41 apache to any cig, or any other boat for that matter.

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hey smart ass its my boat you are speaking of not ed's(comanche 36) although he has a very nice comanche too :evilb:

http://www.offshoreonly.com/esvon/page-10931.html

and if you had the cash...you could be in this boat for 200k with everything mint so in all reality its all inhow you skin the cat and put a boat together....and before you start yappin about three engines....it can get converted to full sttgger right quick for 5k.............wahhhh laaa you just saved yourself a ton by not making a triple!!!! be smart about your responses because you seem to be irritating alot of people who are very helpful and a very close knit group.........we are all friends.....great way to make new ones :rolleyes:

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Irregardless, I think we've all covered where our opinions lie on the topic. Stirring the pot isn't helping.

As a piece of friendly advice, If you're trying to join the Apache club, you may need something someday- some piece of info, a tip or a source. if you piss everyone off, that's going to make it just that much tougher on you.

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This thread really went down the crapper quick! :(

M. Triana at the Ins. Co. called me earlier this week, they wanted to lower the value of my policy by 30% because they felt the boat wasn't worth it. :eek: :mad:

Fortunately for me, I was able to provide them with documentation of the new motors and drives and they where satisfied! :cool:

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Irregardless isnt a word....:D

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According to Webster's, it is...


irregardless
One entry found for irregardless.


Main Entry: ir·re·gard·less
Pronunciation: "ir-i-'gärd-l&s
Function: adverb
Etymology: probably blend of irrespective and regardless
nonstandard : REGARDLESS
usage Irregardless originated in dialectal American speech in the early 20th century. Its fairly widespread use in speech called it to the attention of usage commentators as early as 1927. The most frequently repeated remark about it is that "there is no such word." There is such a word, however. It is still used primarily in speech, although it can be found from time to time in edited prose.


My homeboy Noah Webster is a bad motherfuc&er.

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LOL!!!!!!

Mike
this guy is clueless!!!

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ran the 41 today.....worth ever penny of the 25 thousand
i paid for it......end of story....cya...m.m...


saw a real real cool 27 magnum at miami beach marina this afternoon yellow and white..

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i'll give ya 50k and your up 100%, deal? :evilb:


I used that new fangled red death math :drink:

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thanks but no thanks..........tomorrow is the big day. the marine consultant with the gps is going to see how fast it really is. 41 with twin 650s...any guesses.........m.m.....

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I remeber what you told me you wanted for it:D, and I still think about it. hmmmm after talking with you, these are your 588's 650 hp I'm saying 84-86 depending on the water. Your light layup will definatly help it. Do you have the 3's or the 3 A's on it now?

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82mph

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My bet is 85 full of fuel. 87-88 with a light fuel load. Ours would run 82 full fuel, 83-84 light fuel, wet 6#s(hp hogs) mounted about 3/4 inch to low with 650 hp single carbed 572's. Those really light lay-ups are pretty quick.

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85, your speedo read 86 that day in a nice chop.
But you should be doing this run w/ the 800s.

btw, if a cig mistress is a great boat if your 6ft or less, how short do you have to be for a 27sport? :D

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look at the picture of me in biscayne bay taken by marc berman of bam in 1978...boat looks like a pair of socks on me. but in the 27 sport you can drop the floor 8 or so inches........

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we run 2 speedo gauges off one pick up.........5% to low....if the pitot tube is right on.

#3 1:50 gears and 17.5 X28 or 29........800s ran 3a 1:62 gears 94 mph....with fuel.....

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magnum

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more photos from today