I'll bet the Atlantic is blowin' and black today!

Its flat out Nasty today.Dont get me wrong,i have a buddy with a million dollar Outerlimits(he paid that two years ago ,its now worth in the fours)the boat is a work of art (50000.00 paint job ect ) light, fast as hell in 2-4 footers BUT in the heavy stuff ,for a prolonged amount of time, dollar for dollar the traditional v bottom(Apache,Sutphen) still can hold its own.

yea they just back rolling in the last year... and its not the same company that it was when it was on thunder row


OLD SCHOOl APACHES ROCK THO
My fav is subtle approach.. now named Bad Medicine

JUST READ THE THREAD ON THE ACTIVE THUNDER I SAY PUT YOUR MONEY WERE YOUR MOUTH IS IF YOU HAVE ANY FU--BA--S.
I HAVE A 36 APACHE LAST OUT OF THE MOLD ON THUNDER ROW 1N 1999
And i will take any cig or outer limits in the ocean in any condition, i do my boating out in new jersey, i will travel any where to shut those active thunder, want to beeeeesss up. the true offshore boat legends will never die. apache are the best offshore boat pound for pound. 36 apache

I was agreeing with you until you went to the old trap that so many people on this board fall into. "any" cigarette? I doubt a 46 rough rider with staggered 1075's is going to spend much time worrying about any 36 apache in really rough water. I am sure your apache is nice but it's still 36 feet long. Nothing you can ever do about that. I have a freind with a top gun you will struggle to get by. Probably best to say you can run by a lot of them, not all of them. NK

please post a pic of it, we never get tired of looking at apaches

First Of All I Wasn't Caoparing A 46 Cig To A 36 Apache I Was Comparinging With A 37 Active Thunder

Obviously, you've never run an Active Thunder in rough water. The boats are rock solid, fly level, and land nicely. The throttle response on top with stock power pulls strong. I've seen both the 36AT straight bottom and 37AT Step bottom pull away from many boats during Poker runs to the Keys (in really snotty water) and having worked for the A/T factory, I've spent my share of time running the boats. I also grew up in Miami during the "days" of Ben Kramer and Ft Apache and can appreciate the heritage and toughness built into every Apache. I've always had and still dream about owning a bad ass Apache one day...both boats are great in their own way. The old school/new school controversy will always exist. The fact is, Big Al's thread is his opinion (although he is correct that the A/T does run well) and gives everyone something to talk about. The Apache threads have always been controversial, so why stop now!!

The voice of reason.....

Now a fair comparison. Never been in a 37 at so I can't comment. NK