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Old 08-17-2010 | 12:12 AM
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'Medicine Man' is for sale@$160,000 w/power and drives. By the time you put engines and drives in NoRes you will be above $200k I would think.

If I had the money, MM would be mine.
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Old 08-17-2010 | 05:35 AM
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You guys are still all over the board with this BS.....Apache is an Icon in the Marine Industry.....did anyone ever see the remake of Gone in 60 Seconds???? The scene about Ferrari's where if you buy the current model you're just an over indulgent veiner with too much bloody money BUT if you buy the whatever GTO 250 you're a connoisseur......

Well the same applies here....

No Res is undoubtedly a nice piece but you have to ask yourself what your plan is....If it's 100mph save your money not going to happen I dont care if you put 1700 Sterlings in it the possibility exists but not the probability of attaining 100mph....trust me I have won more money in bets on Apache speeds than anybody out there!!!!!

Now if you want a nice piece to go bar hopping and do some wave crushing on certain days in the mid eigthies then she is you huckleberry!!!!!
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Old 08-17-2010 | 05:39 AM
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Everybody keeps banging technology into this conversation as well......when Apache was built it was the leader in new technology.....it used a proprietary 5 axis blend kevlar and vinylester resin when they were laid up with marine grade plywood bulkheads and transom the rest was a solid laminate boat......(later carbon fiber was added to the kevlar lay-up)

New boats use foam or balsa coring with vacuum bagging process and/or post cured epoxy lay/ups again see previous posts about Ferrari's

Enough said....you can make your choice from here!!!!!

1 thing I will tell you I haven't found a boat yet that matches the ride in the rough.....PERIOD!!!!!
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Old 08-17-2010 | 06:55 AM
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Originally Posted by sean stinson
Everybody keeps banging technology into this conversation as well......when Apache was built it was the leader in new technology.....it used a proprietary 5 axis blend kevlar and vinylester resin when they were laid up with marine grade plywood bulkheads and transom the rest was a solid laminate boat......(later carbon fiber was added to the kevlar lay-up)

New boats use foam or balsa coring with vacuum bagging process and/or post cured epoxy lay/ups again see previous posts about Ferrari's

Enough said....you can make your choice from here!!!!!

1 thing I will tell you I haven't found a boat yet that matches the ride in the rough.....PERIOD!!!!!
Yes, 5 axis was available (blended bi and tri... 090 plus 045... the combination gives an effective 5th axis at 37.5 degrees... ie 2 + 3) but that was by no means the standard. In 83 at Sonic we offered Bi-axial, but it was an upgrade. AND, in my opinion, it's the weight that makes an Apache ride so well. Just my 2 cents... but Steve would be the one who could give more tech info on the hx of laminations.
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Old 08-17-2010 | 07:42 AM
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I would agree Sean, there is nothing like the ride of an Apache, period
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Old 08-17-2010 | 07:50 AM
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Originally Posted by MidOcean
I'm assuming that "back in the day" means mid 80's.
Everything is relative.
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Old 08-17-2010 | 11:09 AM
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Originally Posted by MidOcean
Yes, 5 axis was available (blended bi and tri... 090 plus 045... the combination gives an effective 5th axis at 37.5 degrees... ie 2 + 3) but that was by no means the standard. In 83 at Sonic we offered Bi-axial, but it was an upgrade. AND, in my opinion, it's the weight that makes an Apache ride so well. Just my 2 cents... but Steve would be the one who could give more tech info on the hx of laminations.
Apache's standard laminate was kevlar 5 axis weave....it was made specifically for Apache (so the story goes) by some company out of Louisiana I believe!!!!
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Old 08-17-2010 | 12:11 PM
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All I can say after owning quite a few boats kept dreaming of something else. Once you go Apache you dont go back. I dont dream or think much about owning something else. I dont spend time looking through classifies I dont collect boat sales info anymore.

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Old 08-17-2010 | 05:51 PM
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65K (maybe less) and you could have a fixer upper and build it the way you want it. Looks like it has some potential: http://www.offshoreonly.com/classifi...o35488-en.html

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65K (maybe less) and you could have a fixer upper and build it the way you want it. Looks like it has some potential: http://www.offshoreonly.com/classifi...o35488-en.html

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I'm surprised that one is still there as well. Brett let me crawl all over that one back in May. If I wasn't totally happy with my 36' I'd have that in my barn this winter.

As far as Sean's comment about the GTO vs the modern exotic ride that really is the best way to explain it. Our 36' isn't fast and even with upgrades will never be a triple digit boat, but cruising with friends down the main channel of LOTO on a busy saturday @ 55mph through the slop puts a smile on my face every time...
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