I know....I just like saying it.......it's like saying FU to Reggie

When Fountian buys Donzi ........Fonzi....Sorry Mark off topic again

Saturday March 7, 2009

Launched at PYC on LKN at 11AM.

Jeff "SteelOutlawed" was on board and we ran with Mike "Socalstone" and his buddy CJ who were in Mike's 26 OL with a 600 Merc.

After getting some oil temperature and checking that everything was good we made a speed run. The air temp was right at 80 degrees but the water temp is still cold around 50 degrees. I had a full load of fuel (Dumb), and the water was fairly flat. The best speed we saw with the stock 32 pitch props at 5500 RPM was 88.1 MPH on a hand held GPS that Jeff was in charge of operating.

This is with 75 gallons more fuel and a second person since the last time I ran the boat.

I think my water leaks have actually been coming from the sand strainers and we tightened them up on the water but they still need some attention. Also I have a very slight oil leak on the starboard engine and a little larger leak on the port side. Of course a little oil makes a real mess and when coupled with the water.

A buddy that is a mechanic got onboard to check it out and thinks the oil is coming from the valve covers. He plans to come over to the house and help get these two issues resolved.

On the boost pressure gauges I'm seeing 5PSI.

A little tweeking on the props and we should be easily in the 90's with fuel fuel which is where I want to run.

The engines are awesome and pull like a son of a gun from 65 to 85+. The outdrives Dick built are hanging in there very well so far and it is really hard not laying into those throttles with all that power at hand.

The hull handles the extra speed with no issues at all.

I had a new bracket for the power steering reservoir made that is three inches taller than the one we had on there and it apprears that this may have solved the problem getting the air out of the steering since it moved the reservoir higher than the pump.

Thanks to Sonny at Deal Machine for making the bracket and thanks to my good friend Rodney "Spittin Kitty" for polishing it.

Doc, back in post 91, you show your drives. Any closeups of the caps and what brand are they?

Thanks

I believe she has a few miles an hour left in her. When the props are labbed it should do low 90's easy.

Dock;

More good news as far as you progress.

I still am thinking you need to try labbed 34s to see what happens with them. Am thinking about the same RPM as now with added speed. Not real sure how high you want to go RPM wise.

Keep us informed!

Mark

Max Machine Worxs

They did not meet Dick's specifications on tolerances however and he did just a little machining and fine tuning to them when he set up the drives.

Dick Tryce "Mr. Gadgets"

Dick's Performance Marine

Mark I believe you are right and I would like to try some labbed 34's. I plan to get the 32 labbed and matched up and see what they do and if I come across some 34's I will try them. The rev limiters are set at 5750 RPM.

Thank you

Dock;

With the limiters set at 5750 you will or should be on them after labbeing the 32s I would think.

Lets see: Labbed 34s at 5500 at the present slip % = approx. 93.67 MPH. NOW if you could turn them at 5750 you are at 97.93 MPH using your present slip #s.

I have not said anything up till now but in the begining I was thinking in the 94 to 96 range based on other sources, info, and guesses.

You are well on your way my friend!

Mark

Dock,

I think that you will only be @ 5650 (max) on RPM's by labbing the 32's. Have them cupped to 33's like we did on Pokerface. A Merc Rep. had told me at one time that the 34 series Bravo props were never good performers for some reason. The same is true on the 25 Mirage Plus.....for some reason certain sizes don't perform as well?

Also, I know this is off-topic but we are sending you a gallon of PURE Ohio sweetness. Lane, and his brother along with a half dozen friends make this every spring. It takes on average 65 gallons of Maple sap, boiled-off to make just one gallon of syrup.

XT:cool:

You had to tell everyone Doc were the props off before? My guess not I would check tps voltage and linkage before you mess with the props, Ill send you labbed 32 and then if you need more pitch you can have yours reworked

Cool

Thank you

I agree

They definately need some cup to get the slip in check.

Thanks for the phone call Bobby.

Mark,

I have never heard good things about the 34's and don't plan on going there. Actually without more boost I don't think I could ever spin them. I plan to have the 32's labbed shoting for a 200RPM increase and add some much needed cup and that should do the trick.

I'll keep you posted.

Doc

Keep it refrigerated after opening!

Got It!

Man if it tastes half as good as the jug looks it will be great.

I cannot wait to try it.

Thank you very much and please forward my thanks to Lane and his brother.

Looking for opinions and suggestions regarding water pressure.

I am getting water leaks out of the sand strainers. They are as tight as they can possibly be tightened. It leaks where the glass bowl contacts the metal body and there is an o-ring there.

There are dedicated water pick ups on the transom running to the sand strainers and then to the intercoolers under the Whipples.

I do not have any pressure gauges on them but there is a good steady water flow while on plane.

Could the pressure be exceeding what the strainers can handle?

Yup. Too much pressure. About $600 will cure that issue.

If it is truely too much water pressure there is a water pressure reducing valve that is used in residential/commercial plumbing applications that may work in you situation. Just have to find a suitable location to mount valve or valves before they enter the sea strainer. We use a brand called "watts" which work well. Not sure on the price but not bad and can be bought a local wholesale plumbing store. I have posted a link so you could research a bit more if you'd like.

http://www.watts.com/pro/divisions/w...about_wprv.asp

There could be some very high pressure going through those strainers. Do you think you could put some kind of pressure reducer.

Is that all?:rolleyes:

Tell me more oh great one.

Doc it looks like your pick ups are 1 inch and gets necked down to 5/8 s hose try shortenig the angle of pickup, closer to the bottom I would say if your picks hang more than 1/4 inch below thats enough. before you cut pickup take the screen out of sand strainer to releive pressure just to see If glass still leaks .I think the pickup need restricked some how .get valve put it before strainer close 1/2 way .

Ahhhh. $600 first please. :evilb:
Actually, I built my own pressure relief valves about 2 years ago. I found it was cheaper to buy the off the shelf ones than building my own.
They are pretty cool though. I'll see what I can dig up for specs on them.

Jason did you make shirts yet ,for the 90 mph club

No. You want one or two?

I used these valves once you get sand in them they stay open I got spanked from teague 100.00 a peice he claims there different than the ones from home depot they do look the same

Put them on tanks , on the back ,baja speed changes you on the front Ill take 12 xxl tanks 12 tee,s white of course use the same colors Call me for real 4127810881

I've put in a phone call to a guy I know. I'll call you when I know something about them. Should be tomorrow.

we have to get some for Doc and his better half Ill get some of all sizes to give away since it dont look like any Baja dealer or Baja sponsered poker runs .sounds good .

Doc

I have my intercooler pickups in the same spot you do. You need to trim them up a little shorter. They appear to be to low which will cause drag and too much pressure. Mine are about 1/4 at the back and flush at the front. Remember as the water comes off the back of the boat, it curves upward and kinda rams it in. That is why those pickups need to be shortened.

I can measure exact if you need it. I would start there.

Let me know,

Smitty

We actually drilled the pick-up holes first, then installed them to mark the leading edge flush with the bottom of the hull. They were cut at 90 degrees to the pick-up tube, so the 15 degree angle of the transom provides the pick-up angle that measured close to 1/4" on the backside. The angle that the photo was taken looks like they are hanging low. Doc, you need some photos taken from a good profile angle to review.

The 36ol (15*) transom angle is more than most Bajas. In comparison the 33ol is 13 degrees.

XT

call me about the shirts 4127810881

Alright I just got off the phone with Brett at BBlades and gave him an order for a new pair of labbed props.

I have heard many good things about Brett and I can believe they are all true. He really knows props and he really understands Baja's and what they need to work.

With the base line numbers I have on the new stock 32 pitch props he agrees that the 32 is where I need to stay. With labbing, extra 100 to 200 RPM and cup work he is confdent that his props will put me at 91 to 93 MPH. He also shared some trim technics to share which should help as well.

I just wish I had called him sooner as the turn around time right now is 3 weeks.

I'll keep you posted.

I was right again!

Three weeks is just before a Poker Run in Fort Meyers FL?

XT:rolleyes:

I don't think we will have them in time.

Sunday April 5, 2009

Lake Norman

73 Degrees, Partly Cloudly, 10-15 MPH Wind

Well the wife finally got to ride in the NEW Dock Holiday.

We have been extremely busy putting a poker run together for the local HOG Chapter and it was a huge success yesterday so we decided to make a trip to the lake today and just relax.

Sorry that we did not call anyone but it was only a three hour total round trip from the house to the lake and back home. I wanted to run the boat and I really wanted Tommie to ride in it. She wanted a nice quite lunch for just the two of us and all went very well.

The boat ran perfectly and the smile on her face as it accellerated from 75 to 85 is priceless. We never ran it WOT and are looking forward to receiving the new props from BBlades.

Tommie took just a few pictures of the instruments as we were running.

3400 RPM

50 MPH GPS

Still in vacumn

3800 RPM

57 MPH GPS

Still in vacumn