My new 26' OUTLAW
#61
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Please explain why. Brett has a great reputation on oso and in the boating world. Why do you think Bblades are so horrible? A comment like that, is pointless without info, and could hurt the business too.
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From: ankeny,ia.
#63
2 friends went with b blades props. both ended up having local guys fix them. they where unbalanced real bad. yes brett said send it back he would fix it but we pay shipping.
i pushed that aside and went with everyone saying he was good, i said these guys must be a fluke thing. i went with him and since have paid god knows how much in shipping back and forth back and forth back and forth and the boat still only runs 4,800 on its best day. and its shakes like a mother!!
im going to have my local guy fix it and put it on my dads 26 outlaw, and im going to have hydromotive do my new prop.
another couple friends with real go fast boats (one in the 80's, one in the 90's and one over 100 mph) tried b blades with no luck at all. 2 out of 3 went to hydro's and love them the other went to herrings (he has more money they the other 2)
so, that being said. having the same boat and motor as the original poster i gave my real life knowledge to him.
i pushed that aside and went with everyone saying he was good, i said these guys must be a fluke thing. i went with him and since have paid god knows how much in shipping back and forth back and forth back and forth and the boat still only runs 4,800 on its best day. and its shakes like a mother!!
im going to have my local guy fix it and put it on my dads 26 outlaw, and im going to have hydromotive do my new prop.
another couple friends with real go fast boats (one in the 80's, one in the 90's and one over 100 mph) tried b blades with no luck at all. 2 out of 3 went to hydro's and love them the other went to herrings (he has more money they the other 2)
so, that being said. having the same boat and motor as the original poster i gave my real life knowledge to him.
#64
PLEASE NOTE!!!!!!!!!!
i said this in above post.
"another couple friends with real go fast boats"
i did not meen that baja is not a real go fast boat. i ment that my boat and the original posters boat are "go fast boats" but they are not real fast.
didnt want anyone getting mad thinking i ment baja isnt a real go fast boat. i meen imo 60 ish mph is not fast. 80+ is imo a real go fast boat. my bout is quick and fun, but not fast.
hope it clears it up
i said this in above post.
"another couple friends with real go fast boats"
i did not meen that baja is not a real go fast boat. i ment that my boat and the original posters boat are "go fast boats" but they are not real fast.
didnt want anyone getting mad thinking i ment baja isnt a real go fast boat. i meen imo 60 ish mph is not fast. 80+ is imo a real go fast boat. my bout is quick and fun, but not fast.
hope it clears it up
#65
I can't for the life of me see a conventional Hydromotive propeller doing any good on a Baja. They have no lift are not designed for this style of hull unless you're using the "X" series of propeller, which is a copy, so to speak of the Bravo 1 propeller.
I, like many others here use Bblades and have nothing but respect for the man, who incidentally worked for Merc Racing's lab finishing department for many years and trained under the best mentor, Dennis Cavanaugh. The man who practically invented the labbing process.
When I was dialing in my boat, Brett was kind enough to offer propellers from Hydromotive and Merc. Based upon my testing and his recommendations we settled in on a set of Bravo 1 propellers that ultimately led me to obtaining a slip number under 10% which is VERY impressive for a straight bottom boat.
Selecting a propeller is a fine science that will take time, money and patience. What works on one boat may not work on another boat. In my experience, it took several tries just to get what I wanted out of the propellers I had. I tried at least 6 different styles of propeller in at least 4 differing pitches.
Others with the same boat I have with similar power and x dimension have done their homework and selected propellers in the same style and pitch I have and cannot run the speeds I ran simply based upon the labbing recipe Bblades used for my propellers.
To say that a lab finished propeller is unbalanced is pretty far-fetched. What do you think the labbing process does?
I'm not attacking you personally, however I feel that you are lacking any credible evidence, other than what amounts to hearsay in my opinion.
I, like many others here use Bblades and have nothing but respect for the man, who incidentally worked for Merc Racing's lab finishing department for many years and trained under the best mentor, Dennis Cavanaugh. The man who practically invented the labbing process.
When I was dialing in my boat, Brett was kind enough to offer propellers from Hydromotive and Merc. Based upon my testing and his recommendations we settled in on a set of Bravo 1 propellers that ultimately led me to obtaining a slip number under 10% which is VERY impressive for a straight bottom boat.
Selecting a propeller is a fine science that will take time, money and patience. What works on one boat may not work on another boat. In my experience, it took several tries just to get what I wanted out of the propellers I had. I tried at least 6 different styles of propeller in at least 4 differing pitches.
Others with the same boat I have with similar power and x dimension have done their homework and selected propellers in the same style and pitch I have and cannot run the speeds I ran simply based upon the labbing recipe Bblades used for my propellers.
To say that a lab finished propeller is unbalanced is pretty far-fetched. What do you think the labbing process does?
I'm not attacking you personally, however I feel that you are lacking any credible evidence, other than what amounts to hearsay in my opinion.
#66
Back to the original question presented. I would put on a set of Dana manifolds and lab the correct propeller, probably a Bravo 1 in the 22-24 pitch range and be happy with the gain you get. You'll never see the speed you desire with the HP you now have without spending upwards of $10k atop the $$ you're going to spend for the propeller and manifolds.
Here are some dyno numbers for the Danas:
http://www.danamarineproducts.com/in...n/496_Dyno.pdf
Here are some dyno numbers for the Danas:
http://www.danamarineproducts.com/in...n/496_Dyno.pdf
#67
I can't for the life of me see a conventional Hydromotive propeller doing any good on a Baja. They have no lift are not designed for this style of hull unless you're using the "X" series of propeller, which is a copy, so to speak of the Bravo 1 propeller.
I, like many others here use Bblades and have nothing but respect for the man, who incidentally worked for Merc Racing's lab finishing department for many years and trained under the best mentor, Dennis Cavanaugh. The man who practically invented the labbing process.
When I was dialing in my boat, Brett was kind enough to offer propellers from Hydromotive and Merc. Based upon my testing and his recommendations we settled in on a set of Bravo 1 propellers that ultimately led me to obtaining a slip number under 10% which is VERY impressive for a straight bottom boat.
Selecting a propeller is a fine science that will take time, money and patience. What works on one boat may not work on another boat. In my experience, it took several tries just to get what I wanted out of the propellers I had. I tried at least 6 different styles of propeller in at least 4 differing pitches.
Others with the same boat I have with similar power and x dimension have done their homework and selected propellers in the same style and pitch I have and cannot run the speeds I ran simply based upon the labbing recipe Bblades used for my propellers.
To say that a lab finished propeller is unbalanced is pretty far-fetched. What do you think the labbing process does?
I'm not attacking you personally, however I feel that you are lacking any credible evidence, other than what amounts to hearsay in my opinion.
I, like many others here use Bblades and have nothing but respect for the man, who incidentally worked for Merc Racing's lab finishing department for many years and trained under the best mentor, Dennis Cavanaugh. The man who practically invented the labbing process.
When I was dialing in my boat, Brett was kind enough to offer propellers from Hydromotive and Merc. Based upon my testing and his recommendations we settled in on a set of Bravo 1 propellers that ultimately led me to obtaining a slip number under 10% which is VERY impressive for a straight bottom boat.
Selecting a propeller is a fine science that will take time, money and patience. What works on one boat may not work on another boat. In my experience, it took several tries just to get what I wanted out of the propellers I had. I tried at least 6 different styles of propeller in at least 4 differing pitches.
Others with the same boat I have with similar power and x dimension have done their homework and selected propellers in the same style and pitch I have and cannot run the speeds I ran simply based upon the labbing recipe Bblades used for my propellers.
To say that a lab finished propeller is unbalanced is pretty far-fetched. What do you think the labbing process does?
I'm not attacking you personally, however I feel that you are lacking any credible evidence, other than what amounts to hearsay in my opinion.
my budy with his 25 outlaw had a huge issue with his, i was on the boat with him. we made a couple runs with stock prop. we pulled it onto beach, swapped to the b blades prop and headed out. the boat was shaking so bad we spun around, took prop off made sure it was on right etc, went back out, still shaking like crazy.i called brett. he said it is suposed to be like that

we made a run, saw not .01 mph gain, no difference in handling nothing. we then went to a local guy and he rebalnced it and messed with it. we put it on, no shake and the boat picked up more then 1 mph.
again, i was on the boat and on the phone with brett. that my friend is not hearsay.
my other buddys warned me and told me they had issues with them. yes. that is hearsay.
#69
also, for what its worth, back to why i would not go bblades. after all the shipping cost, time and time again etc etc etc i got nothing out of it. my top end is exactly the same, my cruze speed is up about 1mph and my hole shot is slower because the boat wont spin the prop.
you can see why i would not use or recommend them now?
also, so you know. im not some punk kid behind a key board, im 30 years old, and i know what speed is. i have race cars, race sleds etc etc and i test a lot of stuff.
that sais all my testing is done on the same day, same weight (besides fuel used) with 2 gps units, one mounted in boat and one hand held mounted next to seat.
my testing is not testing that i just toss together. im very into this and every mph or second counts, im very meticulous with my tuning.
#70
i swapped inserts, then tried a brand new one, and got one of the metal ones with the rubber slide things (sorry, dont know the real name) all do the same thing. i thought maybe it was my boat, ujoint or something. i tossed a 23p i have sitting here off my dads 26ol and it was fine. that with the same insert.
also, for what its worth, back to why i would not go bblades. after all the shipping cost, time and time again etc etc etc i got nothing out of it. my top end is exactly the same, my cruze speed is up about 1mph and my hole shot is slower because the boat wont spin the prop.
you can see why i would not use or recommend them now?
also, so you know. im not some punk kid behind a key board, im 30 years old, and i know what speed is. i have race cars, race sleds etc etc and i test a lot of stuff.
that sais all my testing is done on the same day, same weight (besides fuel used) with 2 gps units, one mounted in boat and one hand held mounted next to seat.
my testing is not testing that i just toss together. im very into this and every mph or second counts, im very meticulous with my tuning.
also, for what its worth, back to why i would not go bblades. after all the shipping cost, time and time again etc etc etc i got nothing out of it. my top end is exactly the same, my cruze speed is up about 1mph and my hole shot is slower because the boat wont spin the prop.
you can see why i would not use or recommend them now?
also, so you know. im not some punk kid behind a key board, im 30 years old, and i know what speed is. i have race cars, race sleds etc etc and i test a lot of stuff.
that sais all my testing is done on the same day, same weight (besides fuel used) with 2 gps units, one mounted in boat and one hand held mounted next to seat.
my testing is not testing that i just toss together. im very into this and every mph or second counts, im very meticulous with my tuning.


