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Old 10-02-2012 | 07:24 PM
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Originally Posted by 4bus
Tough crowd (or people just looking to troll and get a rize out of me) that jet ski was next to me for 4 seconds, 4 freaking seconds.

If I did anything wrong it was letting happen what I saw happen, they wanted to race so I held my line. I was suprised at the sharp turn, it is what it is.

If It happened again at that speed, for 4 seconds, I aym not sure what I could have done. Turning a stepped hul at that speed is not an option, at least any more thant the gradual left turn I was already making. Dropping the sticks and letting the bow rise and losing site of the ski also was not an option. Maybe I should have chapped the throttles back and forth and turn the wheel hard and we could have had another video for the world?

Had 4 people plus me on the boat, the ski came to me, didn't think they deserved to be tossed around because a ski came to pester, race, wake jump, whatever.

Some please explain to me how chopping my throttles would have helped anything here. Maybe they would have ran into the side of my boat at 70 mph vs 90 mph? WTF, there is NO TIME. If I came off plane, as I once was they would have sped off, just like before, and waited until I came back on to race, and wake jump. Maybe I should have shut it off and waited until dark just to be safe? Maybe I should leave the boat on the dock, just to be safe......oh, there was no collision.

I am really surprised and disappointed in some of you, a ski comes out of no where and nearly bites it into the side of my boat. I held my line, held my line, held my line. I have just as much right to be there as anyone else.

Would love to go boating with you guys, just keep you on my left, and I'll be on your right.. look out! I am going to do everything possible to hit you, everything. If you come off plane I will wait unitl you go back on, then slam you from the side....after all, It will be my right of way right?
Not looking to debate or get a rise from you or anyone else. There is no reason to be that close to another vessel while under way. The dik hole jetski owners run up on boats here too, in fact a few boat owners do it also. It is the captains responsibility to put his passengers safety first. Simply holding your line because you had the right of way wasn't the safest choice as the video shows. Maybe an evasive maneuver would've been a bit much. Slowing down and gaining distance at first sight of the other vessel would have been a safer choice. My .02
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Old 10-02-2012 | 08:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Donzi ZX

IMO, if you chose the south route around the island (and would've avoided the jetski), you'd have to slow down because the fisherman. So instead you took a chance and went to the north, leaving only a narrow line to run:
Absolutely avoided the fisherman, because I was out to GO FAST in my GO FAST boat. When I came on the island, there was no jet ski to be found.
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Old 10-02-2012 | 08:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Donzi ZX
Whoops forgot to add the link:

Here's a link to a map of the area in case anyone is curious (also a great spot to view nav charts for free). The incident sounds like it happened to the far left side of the map, right about where the "ISLES" of the "Lake of the Isles" is written on the map.

http://www.charts.noaa.gov/OnLineViewer/14772.shtml
The island that is happened near is labled "Baileys Island" on your map, being such an expert of the area I thought you might know that. We all know you can see so much from just a video, figured you saw that too

Here is a google map, showing the size and distance of what you consider a small area, based on the convex lens of a go-pro

http://maps.google.com/?ll=44.333426...84543&t=m&z=14

You really saved the planet today Donzi ZX 26, thanks for making boating safer for everyone.

From now on if I can see land, a boat, even a bird I will stay off plane (slowest it will go with tabs down is 45, and we all know that is too fast) so I will wait, for that moment when it is ok with everyone to finally give it some gas.

Nah...scratch that, I will continue to boat as I have for 20 + years, but now with the new found knowledge that I can plow into the side on of anyone on my left! Because I infact have the all mighty "right of way" no matter how erractically I am driving.
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Old 10-02-2012 | 09:36 PM
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Sure was a pucker factor.

I don't understand why if the jetski driver had made eye contact a few times, or even if just noticed your boat, why did the driver still turn towards you? Crazy.
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Old 10-03-2012 | 12:41 PM
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Originally Posted by US1 Fountain
Sure was a pucker factor.

I don't understand why if the jetski driver had made eye contact a few times, or even if just noticed your boat, why did the driver still turn towards you? Crazy.
I can't speak for the operators up north but I can tell you about SE Texas.
Any Eastex redneck bubba on a 4 wheeler or a jet ski CANNOT be trusted to know the rules or be able to make a smart decision in a crisis or not.
We encounter them all the time and drink beer with them a bunch. They live for that one millesecond of fun without regard for theirs or others safety.
Perfect example, we're riding dirtbikes in the Nat'l Forest on PMT's (permanatly marked trails) I blast a rutted corner trying to keep the boys behind me, run head on into a quad and crash into him. He was going the wrong way on a 1 way trail.
I exploded "WTF dude this is a 1 way trail and your going the wrong MF'n way." His response was that he didn't know, hadn't ridden there before, and didn't have a map or know how to read colored arrows nailed to trees. His group didn't stop at the Rangers office to get a map and the rules and regulations pamphlet. I'll give him credit though, he accepted that he was going the wrong way after looking at my map and the arrows on the trail, apologized, and offered me a beer.
Later that afternoon pulling into the trailhead he and his bud's were being ticketed by a Ranger for not having offroad stickers on their 4 wheelers and not purchasing a day pass for the riders.
After the POPO left we walked over and I apologized to him for being $hittish at the accident scene. We had a couple of beers and he about flipped when I told him to expect the fines to be 500 to 1000 per person. All because of an 8 dollar annual sticker and a 5 dollars day pass for a single rider.
Moral of the story is, Eastex Bubba's don't know the laws in effect to protect them from others and others from them.

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Old 10-03-2012 | 12:45 PM
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Originally Posted by huskyrider
I can't speak for the operators up north but I can tell you about SE Texas.
Any Eastex redneck bubba on a 4 wheeler or a jet ski CANNOT be trusted to know the rules or be able to make a smart decision in a crisis or not.
We encounter them all the time and drink beer with them a bunch. They live for that one millesecond of fun without regard for theirs or others safety.
Perfect example, we're riding dirtbikes in the Nat'l Forest on PMT's (permanatly marked trails) I blast a rutted corner trying to keep the boys behind me, run head on into a quad and crash into him. He was going the wrong way on a 1 way trail.
I exploded "WTF dude this is a 1 way trail and your going the wrong MF'n way." His response was that he didn't know, hadn't ridden there before, and didn't have a map or know how to read colored arrows nailed to trees. His group didn't stop at the Rangers office to get a map and the rules and regulations pamphlet. I'll give him credit though, he accepted that he was going the wrong way after looking at my map and the arrows on the trail, apologized, and offered me a beer.
Later that afternoon pulling into the trailhead he and his bud's were being ticketed by a Ranger for not having offroad stickers on their 4 wheelers and not purchasing a day pass for the riders.
After the POPO left we walked over and I apologized to him for being $hittish at the accident scene. We had a couple of beers and he about flipped when I told him to expect the fines to be 500 to 1000 per person. All because of an 8 dollar annual sticker and a 5 dollars day pass for a single rider.
Moral of the story is, Eastex Bubba's don't know the laws in effect to protect them from others and others from them.

See ya,
Kelly
Was there damage to your bike? Did he cover it?
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Old 10-03-2012 | 03:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Sydwayz
Was there damage to your bike? Did he cover it?
It bent my front fender, ripped the plastic finger protector on one of my barkbusters, and tossed me into the woods.
I hopped up on my feet and started cussing him, a couple of minutes later with him and his friends and me and the kids I cooled off, showed him a map, where we were, and how the arrows on the trees designate different trails within the trail system.
He apologized, admitting they were 1st timers there and wasn't aware of how it all worked, they were out to have some fun riding 4wheelers in the forest and drink a few beers.
I didn't ask for anything except to follow the arrows direction and note that some trails are 2 way trails so pay attention riding for arrows behind you.
Funny thing was that had I hit this corner 10 seconds before I'd have seen him approaching and had time to react.

I did feel bad for them getting citations but laughed it off with the kids later when talking about the tickets over the years there.
Here's a great one, I told my college daughters boyfriend (1st timer) don't throw your cigarette butts on the ground, put them in your pocket or the ashtray/coke can etc.
Forest Ranger making his rounds campsite to campsite later looking for offroad stickers and spark arrestors on exhausts asks my daughter who's cigarette butts those were laying on the ground by her chair. She say's "They're Matt's, here he comes now walking up" As he begins to address Matt about the butts Matt dropped one and stepped on it with his motocross boot.
While receiving his ticket he told the Ranger "Yeah man my girlfriends Dad told me don't throw your butts in the dirt or you'll get a ticket"
They make a living and support the National Forest system with their fines, I've seen them writing many many citations there since the early 70's.
I've only seen maybe a half dozen tickets written on the water for poor boatsmanship, the rest (100's) are always for over limiting or keeping to large or small of a particular fish.

See ya,
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