28ss hulls same as pantera?
04-26-2007 | 08:46 AM
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Very true. I wouldn't expect to find a deal like that again and just because it went for that doesn't mean that this other one is overpriced. If your looking for a 28 apache for around 25-30K your going to be waiting for about five years or so.
04-26-2007 | 08:58 AM
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The pic below shows a 28ss with BBC's in it....but the reason you dont see the lip is that the owner has standoff box's on it and the trannies are inside of it. The boat would have originally come with SBC's from the factory
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04-26-2007 | 01:31 PM
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They made them both ways.....but the ones with BBC have about a 6" lip infront of the hatch cover from where they moved the firewall/backseat forward to fit the BBC engines....
The pic below shows a 28ss with BBC's in it....but the reason you dont see the lip is that the owner has standoff box's on it and the trannies are inside of it. The boat would have originally come with SBC's from the factory
The pic below shows a 28ss with BBC's in it....but the reason you dont see the lip is that the owner has standoff box's on it and the trannies are inside of it. The boat would have originally come with SBC's from the factory
04-26-2007 | 01:33 PM
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So how does the cabin space compare. I got in a 1999 28 Pantera and there was enough room for about six people down there - confortably. I could overnight in it very easily and comfortably - can you do the same with a 28 cigarette. Does anybody know the weight difference? I see alot of 28 Cigs with twin 350's is that because the bilge is so small its hard to get big blocks in there.
If you are wanting to overnight a 28 Cig probably isn't the ticket. I use my cabin for hauling beer, life jackets, and that's about it. That's all I need it for though. A Pantera's cabin is much bigger then the one in my 28. Cattitude has or had one of the nicest 28 Pantera's on here with a single 575 and it is for sale. Sweet rig. As far as Pantera's being a better rough water boat, I'd put the 28 Cig up against anything in that length. There is a reason there is so many of these 70's models around....
04-26-2007 | 02:08 PM
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That boat i was told by the former owner (RonS here on the board) was in the low 90's!!!
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04-26-2007 | 06:56 PM
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[QUOTE=Wally;2106673]They made them both ways.....but the ones with BBC have about a 6" lip infront of the hatch cover from where they moved the firewall/backseat forward to fit the BBC engines....
I think the reason the made the lip was to accommodate the Borg warner transmission when the merctrans was discontinued. heres mine 454mpi's with merctrans. no lip behind seat. I have to assemble all of the pulleys and and heat exchangers after engines are in the boat.
I think the reason the made the lip was to accommodate the Borg warner transmission when the merctrans was discontinued. heres mine 454mpi's with merctrans. no lip behind seat. I have to assemble all of the pulleys and and heat exchangers after engines are in the boat.
04-26-2007 | 11:18 PM
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Do apaches generally go for more than panteras?
I've just entered the 28ft market so I only know of the recent sales.
The apache 28 and a couple pretty nice pantera 28s go for 25K or under is what I've seen that have interested me.
http://www.offshoreonly.com/classifi...2&limit=recent
http://www.offshoreonlyclassifieds.c...o12133-en.html
Apache, pantera, and cigarette 28 is what I'm after. Good to hear pantera has a nicer cabin. Love the apache since they're rarer and has such great short lived history and cigarette, well they're a cigarette!
I've just entered the 28ft market so I only know of the recent sales.
The apache 28 and a couple pretty nice pantera 28s go for 25K or under is what I've seen that have interested me.
http://www.offshoreonly.com/classifi...2&limit=recent
http://www.offshoreonlyclassifieds.c...o12133-en.html
Apache, pantera, and cigarette 28 is what I'm after. Good to hear pantera has a nicer cabin. Love the apache since they're rarer and has such great short lived history and cigarette, well they're a cigarette!
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04-27-2007 | 06:12 AM
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Do apaches generally go for more than panteras?
I've just entered the 28ft market so I only know of the recent sales.
The apache 28 and a couple pretty nice pantera 28s go for 25K or under is what I've seen that have interested me.
http://www.offshoreonly.com/classifi...2&limit=recent
http://www.offshoreonlyclassifieds.c...o12133-en.html
Apache, pantera, and cigarette 28 is what I'm after. Good to hear pantera has a nicer cabin. Love the apache since they're rarer and has such great short lived history and cigarette, well they're a cigarette!
I've just entered the 28ft market so I only know of the recent sales.
The apache 28 and a couple pretty nice pantera 28s go for 25K or under is what I've seen that have interested me.
http://www.offshoreonly.com/classifi...2&limit=recent
http://www.offshoreonlyclassifieds.c...o12133-en.html
Apache, pantera, and cigarette 28 is what I'm after. Good to hear pantera has a nicer cabin. Love the apache since they're rarer and has such great short lived history and cigarette, well they're a cigarette!
PM me if you are interested.
04-27-2007 | 08:05 AM
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Actually, the panteras are the most $, because they are the newest. When it comes down to the older panteras they're about the equal w/ the same vintage as the others, based on the same condition.
04-30-2007 | 12:17 AM
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[QUOTE=stageharbor;2107424]
Was your 28 a factory big block boat or were they installed afterword? My 86 has the 6" lip on it and it was a factory big block boat. I think it is a poor design. It makes it very tough to get to the front of the engines, the belts, and water pumps. They could have put it at the back of the hatch and it would have been a whole lot easier to work on.
Andy
They made them both ways.....but the ones with BBC have about a 6" lip infront of the hatch cover from where they moved the firewall/backseat forward to fit the BBC engines....
I think the reason the made the lip was to accommodate the Borg warner transmission when the merctrans was discontinued. heres mine 454mpi's with merctrans. no lip behind seat. I have to assemble all of the pulleys and and heat exchangers after engines are in the boat.
I think the reason the made the lip was to accommodate the Borg warner transmission when the merctrans was discontinued. heres mine 454mpi's with merctrans. no lip behind seat. I have to assemble all of the pulleys and and heat exchangers after engines are in the boat.
Was your 28 a factory big block boat or were they installed afterword? My 86 has the 6" lip on it and it was a factory big block boat. I think it is a poor design. It makes it very tough to get to the front of the engines, the belts, and water pumps. They could have put it at the back of the hatch and it would have been a whole lot easier to work on.
Andy
