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10-04-2014 | 08:24 AM
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No need to worry about anyone getting buffaloed on this pile of junk he's selling Tim. A 10 year old girl could look at that mess and immediately see it's a pile of crap. 
There isn't an item / system on that boat that is up to snuff. The entire pile is in need of reworking. Honestly, it's worth more parted out as a proper restoration would put a guy 40 to 50 k upside down!
This thread has definitely highlighted the young mans gumption and, along with it, his shortcomings on paint and bodywork, his lack of experience, his lack of integrity and what a mess this thing really is.
So, who's going to buy this for anywhere close to 30k?
There isn't an item / system on that boat that is up to snuff. The entire pile is in need of reworking. Honestly, it's worth more parted out as a proper restoration would put a guy 40 to 50 k upside down!
This thread has definitely highlighted the young mans gumption and, along with it, his shortcomings on paint and bodywork, his lack of experience, his lack of integrity and what a mess this thing really is.
So, who's going to buy this for anywhere close to 30k?
as I stated a long time back in this thread .if any money were to be made (actual profit) he should have made it run and flipped it right away for a few bucks more than he payed for it ..or as I said parted the boat out ..
10-04-2014 | 08:28 AM
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Wow! Haven't looked at this thread in awhile and its another 10 pages. I am one of the original "haters" don't know why everyone is just bashing FF. Once people got to see the boat at LOTO and said it was nice I thought to myself sweet the kid pulled it off, good for him!! But these new pictures show a whole new side to the story. I don't want to bash Phil anymore. He seems to be a good kid with great motivation and love for boating. Phil the boat is not finished yet. Finish the boat and all the details, this is not what you want to show people or sell if you really want to start a shop.
10-04-2014 | 08:37 AM
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Gonna be a long day lol at least I know I'm not alone on my feelings, keep beating me up pro Phil guys might wanna add a few names to that list to abuse
10-04-2014 | 08:52 AM
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And Phil is?????? I'm waiting on a rebuttl.
10-04-2014 | 08:52 AM
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10-04-2014 | 08:58 AM
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He's too busy laying mad paint on the line of boats outside his "shop".
Wanna bet we've seen the last of his nonsense?
Wanna bet we've seen the last of his nonsense?
10-04-2014 | 09:05 AM
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Vintage he 19 it's not the last there will be some cockamamie bs to come. His new shop he is BUYING and the down draft booth he is BUILDING. Or the carbon gun and p29 Donizetti plus the other 3 boat and skater he will be paiting this winter.
Some one brought a threat ttt of some guy fat Scotty he believes his bull**** lies then lives in a fantasy world of them. This is no differant
Some one brought a threat ttt of some guy fat Scotty he believes his bull**** lies then lives in a fantasy world of them. This is no differant
10-04-2014 | 09:49 AM
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"Cigarette Cafe Racer 35
Year Length Beam Power Hours State Price
1989 35' 8' 2 x 420 hp 344 New York $30,000
Description: relisted due to many tire kickers. get this before winter at a steal! "
http://www.powerboatlistings.com/view/31991
His latest sales ad.
Year Length Beam Power Hours State Price
1989 35' 8' 2 x 420 hp 344 New York $30,000
Description: relisted due to many tire kickers. get this before winter at a steal! "
http://www.powerboatlistings.com/view/31991
His latest sales ad.
10-04-2014 | 09:50 AM
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So now what do people think would be a fair price????
10-04-2014 | 09:59 AM
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what really makes me wonder is the guys that said the boat looked very good .did a nice job ect .what the hell were they looking at
makes me wonder if they know good from bad .. im not a hater of the kid he has drive and a dream but lets get real this boat is not a quality job
a while back he needed a gill manifold for this boat I texted him I had 1 and he could have it for free .then he started with mine isn't the same as his he needed a left not a right .there all the same as we know.. we swapped pics back and forth. in the end I gave trying to help when I was told to overnight it .I did try to help him but he made me feel like I didn't know what I had .hes gonna learn the hard way
makes me wonder if they know good from bad .. im not a hater of the kid he has drive and a dream but lets get real this boat is not a quality job
a while back he needed a gill manifold for this boat I texted him I had 1 and he could have it for free .then he started with mine isn't the same as his he needed a left not a right .there all the same as we know.. we swapped pics back and forth. in the end I gave trying to help when I was told to overnight it .I did try to help him but he made me feel like I didn't know what I had .hes gonna learn the hard way
