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Old 02-18-2011 | 02:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Zone 5
Do you have a list of the years that SCOPE has had issues with? I thought you said it was a bunch, but I don't remember ever seeing the years listed.

I'll get a complete list together for you of the SCOPE Five, but this is what I know so far:

1ea 2000
1ea 2001
1ea 2005


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Old 02-28-2011 | 07:56 AM
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I just pulled 2 sections of the rail off my 311 and so far I have the same problem, total hull seperation from the deck joint. From earlier in the thread it looks like Formula was not using Plexus on the 311's. I am going to call Plexus up today and try and talk to the techs about if their product is a good match for my situation. My friend that builds boats said he is moving away from Plexus because it is so hard to deal with. He said when it works there is nothing better, when it does not work it fails completely. Maybe the problem is not so much with Formula but Plexus?
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Old 02-28-2011 | 10:50 AM
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I checked mine this weekend and everything looks good. Hope it stays that way.
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Old 02-28-2011 | 11:17 AM
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Originally Posted by PhantomChaos
I'll get a complete list together for you of the SCOPE Five, but this is what I know so far:

1ea 2000
1ea 2001
1ea 2005


Thank you for getting the thread back on topic!
Shouldn't Formula cover the 2005 under the 10 year warranty?
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Old 02-28-2011 | 12:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Audiofn
I just pulled 2 sections of the rail off my 311 and so far I have the same problem, total hull seperation from the deck joint. From earlier in the thread it looks like Formula was not using Plexus on the 311's. I am going to call Plexus up today and try and talk to the techs about if their product is a good match for my situation. My friend that builds boats said he is moving away from Plexus because it is so hard to deal with. He said when it works there is nothing better, when it does not work it fails completely. Maybe the problem is not so much with Formula but Plexus?
Jon, could you please post a picture of what the separation looks like? I'm sure it's something that you either know or don't know when you see it, but just in case...
Thanks, and sorry to hear you've got the issue, too.

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Old 02-28-2011 | 01:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Audiofn
I just pulled 2 sections of the rail off my 311 and so far I have the same problem, total hull seperation from the deck joint. From earlier in the thread it looks like Formula was not using Plexus on the 311's. I am going to call Plexus up today and try and talk to the techs about if their product is a good match for my situation. My friend that builds boats said he is moving away from Plexus because it is so hard to deal with. He said when it works there is nothing better, when it does not work it fails completely. Maybe the problem is not so much with Formula but Plexus?
how can it be the plexus???when other manf. use it also,,,now it could to the time factor they take before the hull in set down and screwd in
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Old 02-28-2011 | 03:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Audiofn
From earlier in the thread it looks like Formula was not using Plexus on the 311's.
Pre Fastech, thye used Arogrip. The ads claim the exact same thing as Plexus, that it bonds the material with a chemical bond stronger than the glass is.
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Old 03-12-2011 | 02:53 PM
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Expensive date: Thanks for the message and heads up.

Zone5: Thanks for a rational scrupulous approach.

PhantomChaos: Thanks for the perserverance and communication. I hope this whole experience will be for the betterment of all aspects involved and not ladden with any personal issues or agendas on part of all.



I drove an 06 382 with 525/ITS (it used to be in the classifieds here) and the concerns that hit my radar then were the loose steering wheel and drives. The steering wheel flopped like the nut was loose, maybe cracked, and the drives flopped up and down like celery sticks were cracked on a Bravo. My point mentioning this is that this issue is definately on my radar screen now because all the other issues were, as I believe after watching the owner drive it too, a result of the boat pounding. If it were pounded hard enough for these symptoms then the hull issue in question here is absolutely subject too.

I am soooooo glad to know about this as I don't want to buy a project boat.

The 07 382 with 700/NXT's that I recently posted is an interest for the chargers, I love chargers, which make my "sticker peck out" but the price is a problem of marketing and bad economy. That power in a staggered mounting delivers a lot more all around performance which pulls me in a different direction than I thought I could ever go in but live and learn.

I'm watching this thread intently so please carry on.

Oh yea, the video on Post #115 is great with the sound up loud! And from 10 to 11 min the black boat is leaned back on the drives pretty hard which seems to illustrate the point of "enthusiastic marketing" that suggests the hull can take it.

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Old 03-13-2011 | 12:31 PM
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Originally Posted by JTeam
Shouldn't Formula cover the 2005 under the 10 year warranty?
Dave.....was is user error? LOL
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Old 03-13-2011 | 12:32 PM
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Originally Posted by PhantomChaos
I'll get a complete list together for you of the SCOPE Five, but this is what I know so far:

1ea 2000
1ea 2001
1ea 2005


Thank you for getting the thread back on topic!

1ea 1999
1ea 2000
2ea 2001
1ea 2005
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